Omron PID

[juggabrew]

Here’s the response I got from Rex:

“Yeah on the boil pid if you hold the <<PF button down until MANU in yellow appears on the screen.

This will put you in manual mode and will actually be in a range of 0-105. Usually around the 70-80 it a good setting but you can play with it to see.

One thing to check before doing so could be to hold the rectangular button down for at least 3 seconds to get you into the main menu. Then hit the circular arrow button until it says CP on the screen. Make sure this is set to 5. This will give you the best results in manual mode”

Sincerely,

Rex

Grounded Brewing Technologies

These PIDS didn’t come with a booklet. Only a folded up paper with 5 other languages on it

 

[doug293cz]

Here’s the response I got from Rex:

“Yeah on the boil pid if you hold the <<PF button down until MANU in yellow appears on the screen.

This will put you in manual mode and will actually be in a range of 0-105. Usually around the 70-80 it a good setting but you can play with it to see.

One thing to check before doing so could be to hold the rectangular button down for at least 3 seconds to get you into the main menu. Then hit the circular arrow button until it says CP on the screen. Make sure this is set to 5. This will give you the best results in manual mode”

Sincerely,

Rex

Grounded Brewing Technologies

These PIDS didn’t come with a booklet. Only a folded up paper with 5 other languages on it

You can find the manual here. It isn't written for a novice.

For the life of me, I can't figure out why you would even have a setting of 105% for a PWM output. You can't be more "on" than on 100% of the time. (On an analog voltage or current output in would make sense.)

I would recommend a CP setting of 1 or 2 (whatever the minimum allowed is) rather than 5 (assuming the CP setting units are seconds.) A 5 second cycle time (Control Period) would likely give you noticeable pulsing in your boil intensity. Not really a problem, but doesn't look right.

Brew on

 

[Smellyglove]

I switched from Sestos DS1R to Auber EZBoil310, and I still feel like the Sestos was better at maintaining temps after a good tuning. I was one of them which made Auber add some more features / rewrite some of the code to make it more usable, but still some times it doesn't fire when it's reading low temps. For me this is one reason one "PID" (Auber does not use PID algorithm) can be better than another one.

 

[juggabrew]

You can find the manual here. It isn't written for a novice.

For the life of me, I can't figure out why you would even have a setting of 105% for a PWM output. You can't be more "on" than on 100% of the time. (On an analog voltage or current output in would make sense.)

I would recommend a CP setting of 1 or 2 (whatever the minimum allowed is) rather than 5 (assuming the CP setting units are seconds.) A 5 second cycle time (Control Period) would likely give you noticeable pulsing in your boil intensity. Not really a problem, but doesn't look right.

Brew on

Thanks for manual link. This is what I needed

 

[SmokeyRydr]

I'm working with Rex @ Grounded Brew Tech on a new panel. He's super helpful and their panels look great.

But the stock Omron PIDs don't seem to have a simple way to do the following program that EZboil has out of the box below. So I'm thinking of asking him to swap out the Omron E5CC with the Auber DSPR320.

I'm looking for your advice on:
a) a way to program the Omron to do a similar program as below? or
b) a compelling reason why Omron PID is significantly better (not just better looking than the Auber?

EZboil Setup

Set ATSP = 200°F (96°C) and OUTH = 100%, set boiling output dial to 65%, and the timer to start at 210°F (99°C) for 60 minutes. When the controller is powered up, it will heat the liquid with full power capacity of the heating element. After the water temperature reaches 200°F, the power is automatically reduced to 65%. As soon the temperature climbs to 210°F, the timer is activated. Sixty minutes later, the power will be turned off and the controller will send long beeps and flashing "End" on the display. During the boil, the user can use the rotary knob to fine tune the boil at any time. There is also a programmable alarm that can be set to an important temperature to notify the user to take action. The figure below shows how the power is correlated to the temperature and time. Figure 1. Power output correction with temperature and time.

 

[Bobby_M]

I'm working with Rex @ Grounded Brew Tech on a new panel. He's super helpful and their panels look great.

But the stock Omron PIDs don't seem to have a simple way to do the following program that EZboil has out of the box below. So I'm thinking of asking him to swap out the Omron E5CC with the Auber DSPR320.

I'm looking for your advice on:
a) a way to program the Omron to do a similar program as below? or
b) a compelling reason why Omron PID is significantly better (not just better looking than the Auber?

a. It won't.
b. It's not.

 

[Bad Bubba]

I'm working with Rex @ Grounded Brew Tech on a new panel. He's super helpful and their panels look great.

But the stock Omron PIDs don't seem to have a simple way to do the following program that EZboil has out of the box below. So I'm thinking of asking him to swap out the Omron E5CC with the Auber DSPR320.

I'm looking for your advice on:
a) a way to program the Omron to do a similar program as below? or
b) a compelling reason why Omron PID is significantly better (not just better looking than the Auber?

EZboil Setup

Set ATSP = 200°F (96°C) and OUTH = 100%, set boiling output dial to 65%, and the timer to start at 210°F (99°C) for 60 minutes. When the controller is powered up, it will heat the liquid with full power capacity of the heating element. After the water temperature reaches 200°F, the power is automatically reduced to 65%. As soon the temperature climbs to 210°F, the timer is activated. Sixty minutes later, the power will be turned off and the controller will send long beeps and flashing "End" on the display. During the boil, the user can use the rotary knob to fine tune the boil at any time. There is also a programmable alarm that can be set to an important temperature to notify the user to take action. The figure below shows how the power is correlated to the temperature and time. Figure 1. Power output correction with temperature and time.

I got a Biab panel from Grounded Brewing. I decided to go with the ezboil 320 and he swapped it out for a small upcharge. Have not tested it too much. But has worked well so far