Oklahoma Only Brewers Group on the HBT!!!

[matthew_reagor]

Wombatfarms- I bet if you went up there to their brewery they would sell you one. JD is a really nice guy.


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[loudrail]

Hey acarter, you're welcome over here anytime on brew day

 

[wombatfarms]

Matt - I'll have to go try that. They are just around the corner from me.


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[matthew_reagor]

How many people on here are living in the Tulsa area?


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[okiepc]

How many people on here are living in the Tulsa area?


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I am about half way between Tulsa and OKC & I can't justify a 120-140 mile round trip to buy supplies so I order off the internet, never had a problem. Sure would like to have a local brew shop close though.

 

[okiegent2003]

Just wanted to say hello to you guys .......I live here in Warr Acres and have only been brewing for about a year now. Its a hobby I wish I could do every single day. Ive got a Hoppy Amber Ale in the fermenter and a pilsner lagering. Not too sure about the Pilsner as it is my first one.

 

[zeptrey]

Hi back. I have a hopped up amber as well with citra and galaxy that's mighty tasty. I wish I could brew at least every other day. What do you do with your water? I live in Yukon which I believe draws water from Overholser and from what I understand is the worst of the four wells in the city. At least it's not Norman water...I suppose it could be worse.


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[mkyl428]

Hey, i'm in OKC (Baptist Hospital area) I also wish I could brew every day! I use distilled water and add back minerals b/c I had a hard time figuring out where my water was coming from and it seems it doesn't always come from the same place. Do you guys get your supplies at the Brew Shop or Learn to Brew I've used both but more often then not I end up going to the Brew Shop it's a bit closer... I'm not sure who's prices are better.

 

[zeptrey]

I normally use Learn to Brew. But they both are pretty good. The Hops I think are better from LTB for the simple fact I don't know how they keep their bulk hops at the brew shop since they bag their own, and at LTB they are sealed direct from the Hop Union or BSG. Also they seem to have more stuff at LTB, but then agian I've found certain malts at the Brew Shop that LTB doesn't have.

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

See attached.

 

[mkyl428]

See attached.

The problem I had was when I contacted the water company a bit more than a year ago they told me my water was a blend of Overholser and Draper.... they said it would normally be a mix from Overholser and Hefner i think but that Hefner was not supplying water at that time b/c the lake was low.... So it does change from lake to lake and even if it didn't i don't know that the mineral levels are constant so for me it's easier just to use distilled or RO

 

[okiegent2003]

When you boil doesnt that take alot of the harsher stuff out? I need to learn more about water chemistry. I might just go back to using bottled water.

 

[WortMonger]

Boiling can remove temporary hardness, but not permanent hardness. I mentioned earlier about pre-boiling and letting cool with a atmospheric blocking lid to persipitate out some solids, but this only works on some of the stuff you want out. RO is the best bet and add chemical to get your wanted profile for specifics. Otherwise, do the pre-boiling trick and send that sample in to see if that works for your tap profile. I'm in Edmond and use a simple charcoal filtration for darker beers. Otherwise, I use RO.

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

The problem I had was when I contacted the water company a bit more than a year ago they told me my water was a blend of Overholser and Draper.... they said it would normally be a mix from Overholser and Hefner i think but that Hefner was not supplying water at that time b/c the lake was low.... So it does change from lake to lake and even if it didn't i don't know that the mineral levels are constant so for me it's easier just to use distilled or RO

I could be wrong but I would suspect that the water goes from one lake to another in it's raw form. Just like we, at hefner, get raw water from Overholser, Draper, and Canton (when the fuggin Gallardia asholes can't be bothered to not water their lawns despite being able to walk to the middle of hefner without getting wet). But the from the tap profile is solid as reported.

The mineral profiles do change, pretty drastically for Hefner at least, month to month.

 

[okiegent2003]

So would Ozarka bottled water be better than our tap water. And where do you get a water profile done?

 

[mkyl428]

So would Ozarka bottled water be better than our tap water. And where do you get a water profile done?

I either use distilled water which is different than drinking water as it has all of the minerals removed or RO water (reverse osmosis) witch also has practically no mineral content. I get distilled at practically any store or RO at one of those glacier water machines around town. Then I use a calculator like this to rebuild a water profile with different mineral salts to suit whatever it is I am brewing. I've heard a lot of people just filter the water out of the tap and go with it around here though, & the general saying goes if it tastes good out of the tap brew with it. If you are interested in water chemistry to help improve your beers and would like to get your water tested you can send it here to get it tested. Hope this helps

 

[okiegent2003]

Anyone going to Mesta Park this weekend for the brew fest?

 

[Dulahey]

Hey guys, just introducing myself. I haven't brewed in almost two years because I said I wasn't going to brew again until I got a keg system setup. I quickly got sick of bottling. So anyway, I just bought a 7-cu ft freezer today and am going to start working on a Keezer because I am REALLY wanting to get back to brewing.

I'm pretty sure my profile says so, but I'm down in Newcastle.

 

[mikem3768]

New to brewing, still doing extract brews. Starting to experiment a little more. Enjoy reading, finding out what has and hasn't worked out with others. Every brew is a new adventure. Brewing in Okmulgee, south of Tulsa

 

[mkyl428]

Hey guys, welcome!

 

[zeptrey]

Welcome!


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[zeptrey]

Didn't know if any of you guys were aware of this event going on in a couple of weeks at Roughtail over in Midwest City.

http://roughtailbeer.com/blog/10/14/holes-hops-cornhole-tourney

Sounds like fun. They make some pretty fantastic beers over there and I believe this next weekend are releasing their Pumpkin Latte Stout out of their taproom.

 

[zeptrey]

What's the opinion here of everyone about the local breweries producing the 4.0 beers to be sold in grocery stores, gas stations and in tap rooms?

I'm a little conflicted because I want the law to be changed, but love the ability now to get a growler of some great beer. I hope they lobby to fight the 4.0 law so I don't know how much they will after producing these beers...

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

What's the opinion here of everyone about the local breweries producing the 4.0 beers to be sold in grocery stores, gas stations and in tap rooms?

I'm a little conflicted because I want the law to be changed, but love the ability now to get a growler of some great beer. I hope they lobby to fight the 4.0 law so I don't know how much they will after producing these beers...

First I have heard of this. You certain it's 4.0 ABV and not the more common 4.0 ABW which is equivalent to 3.2 ABV? Thus, only distribution is changing.

 

[mkyl428]

I think it will expand peoples beer pallet a bit more than just BMC crap...
Hopefully they will still fight the dumb law I don't see why they wouldn't.

It should get more people to try craft here though, there are a lot of people who don't go to liquor stores for beer, some of these same people my wish to buy local now they have an option.

The liquor store owners and the BMC big boys are why we have such a hard time changing the laws, but if consumers are introduced to flavor maybe it will help.

If nothing else at least you will be able to get a decent beer on a Sunday.

 

[zeptrey]

First I have heard of this. You certain it's 4.0 ABV and not the more common 4.0 ABW which is equivalent to 3.2 ABV? Thus, only distribution is changing.

Yeah...that...Weight not Volume 3.2 ABV = 4.0 ABW.

 

[mkyl428]

Yeah...that...Weight not Volume 3.2 ABV = 4.0 ABW.

I think it's the other way 3.2%ABW= 4% ABV. (Either way it's stupid.) It's ridiculous get with the rest of the country geez... But that's Oklahoma for you.. hopelessly old fashioned and way too stubborn for change. I love our state but sometimes it the stupidity of our old fashioned laws and unwillingness to change drive me crazy!!!!

 

[zeptrey]

At least one brewery is working to get around the self distribution of strong beer on premise law, and to do so is a painful process from what I've heard. SO what if these breweries start their own taprooms on premise, and start selling strong beer. Will they want to really lobby to fight that specific law?

 

[mkyl428]

I would guess they would want to... As I understand it now if they want to sell their own "strong" beer in their tap room they would have to sell the beer off to a distributor and buy it back from said distributor undoubtedly at a mark up, and even then they would not be able to sell growlers of the "strong" beer it would have to be consumed on premises.

 

[mkyl428]

Check this out
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/loca...cle_486f475e-43b6-5bab-a5ff-8ae249a3f768.html