I am thinking about brewing an AIH octoberfest / marzen brew kit. it recomends white labs820 octoberfest/marzen lager yeast. Do i or should i use a starter or could i pitch an extra vial of the lager yeast? I never did a starter before not sure what brand and how much DME to use. I was thinking about fermenting in my fridge i took a internal temp of 45 degrees in the fridge with two cases of water and other items in. Thinking that should be cold enough for lager fermenting. Or would i do just as good using wyeast 1007 german ale yeast without a starter. Thanks for every ones input.