Obnoxious Football Trash Talk Thread

[Roadliner]

It's no different than you grounding your kid because you were told they did something. Without a video of it, there is no evidence, but you might believe it happened based on what you were told so you administer a punishment. This is not a conviction.. it is a punishment based on circumstantial information.

You can't understand the difference, and you are questioning my IQ lol

 

[HoppyDaze]

Let's play the quiet game (patriots indiscretions)

 

[Cape Brewing]

Maybe they checked the other 8 balls but it didn't support your theory so they scrapped their data?

No.., they didn't. It is in the Wells Report that the refs "didn't have time to test all of the Colts footballs".

 

[Cape Brewing]

It's no different than you grounding your kid because you were told they did something. Without a video of it, there is no evidence, but you might believe it happened based on what you were told so you administer a punishment. This is not a conviction.. it is a punishment based on circumstantial information.

You can't understand the difference, and you are questioning my IQ lol

This really is some of the most galactically stupid shti on this whole thread.

Wow.

 

[Roadliner]

This really is some of the most galactically stupid shti on this whole thread.

Wow.

So.. you don't actually read anything you type? That makes sense.

 

[h22lude]

It's no different than you grounding your kid because you were told they did something. Without a video of it, there is no evidence, but you might believe it happened based on what you were told so you administer a punishment. This is not a conviction.. it is a punishment based on circumstantial information.

You can't understand the difference, and you are questioning my IQ lol

Hahahahaha this is one of the funniest analogies I have read. Anything you say from now on will be disregarded by everyone in the forum. You are just spewing words out of your a$$. Please don't have children. This world can't afford another dumb person like yourself.

 

[Roadliner]

Hahahahaha this is one of the funniest analogies I have read. Anything you say from now on will be disregarded by everyone in the forum. You are just spewing words out of your a$$. Please don't have children. This world can't afford another dumb person like yourself.

lol, coming from the dipsihts in New England that can't understand the problem with cheating.. doesn't really mean anything.

 

[h22lude]

lol, coming from the dipsihts in New England that can't understand the problem with cheating.. doesn't really mean anything.

Still grasping at straws huh? It's ok, some day you will learn what evidence means.

 

[Roadliner]

Still grasping at straws huh? It's ok, some day you will learn what evidence means.

And some day you'll be able to figure out what circumstantial is. I tried to dumb it down for you, but apparently I can't simplify it enough.

 

[fosaisu]

And everybody in the world (except for you knuckleheads) knows you cannot convict anyone about anything based on solely circumstantial evidence...

...which - btw - is suspect on its own merit...

Cheers!

The only thing suspect here, counselor, is your legal analysis. People are convicted on circumstantial evidence alone all the time.

 

[the_bird]

No.., they didn't. It is in the Wells Report that the refs "didn't have time to test all of the Colts footballs".

... and of course, since they were running out of time before they could test those footballs, the ones they did check had plenty of time to warm back up. Odd how that variable wasn't considered in that $600k "scientific" report. Odd.

 

[Cape Brewing]

You the drill Bird..... They hate cuz they ain't us.

"Waaaaaahhhhh. The big mean Patriots kick the shti outta my crappy team every year. I hate em I hate em I hate em I hate em!! They played half a game with a ball that had less air in it!! The horrrrrrrrrrror!!!!!!!! Thinnnnnnnk of the chilllllldren!!!!!"

LOL!!!

 

[Darwin18]

Anyone who watched that game knows the Pats could have been playing with a cantaloupe and still would have destroyed the Colts. It's the incessant whining that the Pats organization does when it gets caught cheating time and time again that pisses everyone off. Everyone knows that the Pats organization will do anything to win and will push the boundaries of the rules to a fuzzy area. Occasionally they'll go too far. Most teams after they get caught just shut the **** up and take the punishment. There are 31 other teams that obviously approve of the way Goodell is handling this because otherwise they'd fire his ass. It's sad to watch Brady burning bridges with the NFL over a 4 game suspension. Sure, the "evidence" is circumstantial and yes maybe the suspension is overly harsh, but the NFL can afford to play the long game here. Maybe someone in the league office tells the refs for the Pats games this season to let a few "roughing" the passer hits go on Brady.

 

[jpakstis]

what a delusional statement that is. Yeah, the pressure of the ball was under the amount that the rules state. It's like you guys in your echo chamber have convinced yourselves that facts are irrelevant.

Are you really going to argue that the only way the Pats' balls were underinflated at halftime was because of intentional acts? Wait, what about the 3 of 4 Colts' balls that were tested to be underinflated at halftime too?

Science has debunked that. Move on. The balls were underinflated at halftime, there is no dispute about that. The problem is it could have been the result of an intentional act or just that atmospheric conditions caused it.

Maybe McNally took them into that bathroom and deflated them. Maybe he saw that the balls were over 12.5 PSI because remember no one ever wrote down the pre-game readings. All you have is the ref saying that he tested them with one of two gauges, which were 0.35 - 0.4 off from each other, and that the balls were within the range of 12.5 PSI. If you go by the ref's , the gauge the ref claims he used pre-game all read the Pats' balls within the range of the Ideal Gas Law at halftime. However, Wells and Exponent then basically discredits the ref and says that it is more likely he used the other gauge.

McNally could have tampered with the balls (which is admittedly a violation of the Game Operations Manual). But you need to discredit science and the ref's recollection to say that it was tampering alone that caused the underinflation.

 

[jpakstis]

What??? Like Luck doesn't know what the fkcuing PSI of the ball is!?!? Really!??!? Please. The guy throw's the ball!!!

This is the argument that cracks me up the most. "Brady would certainly know how the ball feels and would know that the balls were underinflated." Over the weekend I was going for a bike ride and my tires were too low so I pumped them back up. I usually have them at 80PSI. Just for laughs, I tried inflating them to 78 and then 79PSI, feeling them and then at 80PSI. I couldn't tell a single difference. I even tried it at lower PSIs, like around 20PSI and 40PSI.

The other hole in this "argument" is that everyone said the same thing about Belichick. "He's the head coach and a mastermind; OF COURSE he would know exactly what PSI to set the balls at. He's always scheming for a competitive advantage!" Then the Wells report takes Belichick at his word and finds him creditable and that's the end of that.

At the end of the day the only "evidence" you have against Brady are a couple of texts and phone conversations after the scandal broke to a Patriots coach who was preparing for the Super Bowl and dealing with this "scandal" and the fact that he refused to provide his phone records. Brady even offered to recreate and recompile all of the records. Some conspiracy. (Also, don't forget that Gostkowski refused to turn over his phone records to Wells; where's his 4 game suspension?)

Everyone who has been bloviating about the "blind Pats fans" ignoring the facts are not heeding their own advice.

 

[Cape Brewing]

Anyone who watched that game knows the Pats could have been playing with a cantaloupe and still would have destroyed the Colts. It's the incessant whining that the Pats organization does when it gets caught cheating time and time again that pisses everyone off. Everyone knows that the Pats organization will do anything to win and will push the boundaries of the rules to a fuzzy area. Occasionally they'll go too far. Most teams after they get caught just shut the **** up and take the punishment. There are 31 other teams that obviously approve of the way Goodell is handling this because otherwise they'd fire his ass. It's sad to watch Brady burning bridges with the NFL over a 4 game suspension. Sure, the "evidence" is circumstantial and yes maybe the suspension is overly harsh, but the NFL can afford to play the long game here. Maybe someone in the league office tells the refs for the Pats games this season to let a few "roughing" the passer hits go on Brady.

Yes. You've stated this steaming pile several times.

And the answer remains the same... as long as the media and butt hurt vags all over continue to piss and moan and accuse the Pats of cheating, Pats fans and the team are going to defend themselves.

And for the 5th time... You're whole "boo hoo just accept it and move on" argument is an even bigger steaming pile.

So..., Let's pretend a few of us on this thread really didn't like Darwin... and we found out where you work. Then, we started sending emails to your office saying, "hey... just so you know... we are pretty sure he's a pedophile. We have no actual proof... but... let's just say a lot of things add up to that"

What?? What's the problem???? You should just STFU, accept it, and move on. See Darwin... that's why no one would like you... because you would be a whiney btich who wouldn't just STFU and take the punishment.

GRRRRRRRR. I HATE Darwin for not just admitting he's a pedophile!!!!!

 

[the_bird]

... and you know, with the nonsense that's been leaked about Brady's texts (talking a little smack about Peyton, etc)... maybe that had something to do with why he didn't want to turn the phone over? You think?

 

[paulthenurse]

Wait???? Darwin's a pedophile? WTF????


Stone him!!!!!!!

 

[Darwin18]

No! My career as an ice cream truck driver is ruint.

 

[the_bird]

Also; gotta love that Ted Wells is being sued by the old Miami offense line coach, for defamation.

Turner, who thinks his reputation and career have been unfairly impacted, believes Wells’ report on the Dolphins negatively and perhaps permanently affected his ability to land another NFL coaching job. …

In the lawsuit, Turner alleges the NFL commissioned Wells and Paul Weiss to write a report that would placate the public and assign blame to certain individuals such as Turner, while the law firm was well-paid and well-positioned for future work on NFL cases such as the one that turned out to be Deflategate.

Turner’s attorney, Peter Ginsberg, believes that Wells and Weiss failed to include significant testimony from former and current Dolphins coaches and players in the report, opting instead to blame the events on, among others, Turner.

Ginsberg also believes Turner was falsely accused of helping create an atmosphere that allowed bullying and harassment to happen and, even though Wells knew the accusations were not true, he included them in the report anyway, damaging Turner’s reputation and inflicting emotional distress, pain and suffering.

 

[Cape Brewing]

... and you know, with the nonsense that's been leaked about Brady's texts (talking a little smack about Peyton, etc)... maybe that had something to do with why he didn't want to turn the phone over? You think?

See Bird.... there you go again... THAT explanation is too simple. That's why your simple brain accepts it.

What really happened is that not only did Brady have video of him and the equipment guys, knocking the refs out with chloroform, stealing the balls, and viciously letting almost ONE pound of air pressure out.... I know... chilling.... But he ALSO had top secret video of him having hot man sex with Kim Jung Un while giving North Korea all of 'Merica's nuclear secrets!!!

Then the cell phone was "mysteriously" destroyed???

Hmmmmm. Likely story.

Putin had a team of KGB agents swoop into Gillette and do a secret lift-out of said cellphone... in a bathroom... in 4.2 seconds... so that Russia could steal all of 'Merica's nuclear secrets too!

Oooooooooo that Brady!!!! He's a sinister one!

See Bird? All makes sense. Prove me wrong.

Just accept that explanation and stop being a whiney btich. Or else everyone outside of Massachusetts will hate you.

 

[Cape Brewing]

No! My career as an ice cream truck driver is ruint.

Damn straight kiddy-lover

 

[Darwin18]

... and you know, with the nonsense that's been leaked about Brady's texts (talking a little smack about Peyton, etc)... maybe that had something to do with why he didn't want to turn the phone over? You think?

Way more likely it has more to do with Affleck's nanny than some trash talking about Manning.

 

[Cape Brewing]

Way more likely it has more to do with Affleck's nanny than some trash talking about Manning.

Don't forget Putin!!! That's the KEY here. It alllllways comes back to Russia.

 

[day_trippr]

... and you know, with the nonsense that's been leaked about Brady's texts (talking a little smack about Peyton, etc)... maybe that had something to do with why he didn't want to turn the phone over? You think?

More likely this fell out from what happened to Incognito when he turned over his phone and suddenly a boat load of his private messages went public.

Brady offered to provide a full record of his contacts - 10000 messages worth - but that idiot Goodell turned that down, because it would take too long to back track.

WTF - longer than the 7 months Wells took??

Cheers!

 

[the_bird]

Don't forget Putin!!! That's the KEY here. It alllllways comes back to Russia.

Kraft's never forgiven him for stealing his ring. That's why they had to go out and win another one.

 

[HoppyDaze]

Are you really going to argue that the only way the Pats' balls were underinflated at halftime was because of intentional acts? Wait, what about the 3 of 4 Colts' balls that were tested to be underinflated at halftime too?



Science has debunked that. Move on. The balls were underinflated at halftime, there is no dispute about that. The problem is it could have been the result of an intentional act or just that atmospheric conditions caused it.



Maybe McNally took them into that bathroom and deflated them. Maybe he saw that the balls were over 12.5 PSI because remember no one ever wrote down the pre-game readings. All you have is the ref saying that he tested them with one of two gauges, which were 0.35 - 0.4 off from each other, and that the balls were within the range of 12.5 PSI. If you go by the ref's , the gauge the ref claims he used pre-game all read the Pats' balls within the range of the Ideal Gas Law at halftime. However, Wells and Exponent then basically discredits the ref and says that it is more likely he used the other gauge.



McNally could have tampered with the balls (which is admittedly a violation of the Game Operations Manual). But you need to discredit science and the ref's recollection to say that it was tampering alone that caused the underinflation.

Yes and shut up

 

[HoppyDaze]

****. Shut up

 

[Cape Brewing]

You shut up

 

[h22lude]

And some day you'll be able to figure out what circumstantial is. I tried to dumb it down for you, but apparently I can't simplify it enough.

Haters be like, circumstantial is a word so I'll use it instead of showing actual evidence