Obnoxious Football Trash Talk Thread

[GenIke]

Most hated cheaters in sports history:

5) Barry Bonds
4) Tonya Harding
3) Lance Armstrong
2) the 1919 Black Sox
1) Tom Brady

 

[HoppyDaze]

1a) new patriot fan in thread

 

[jpakstis]

The consequences aren't for his "alleged" non-cooperation. They are for cheating. The argument that Brady doesn't know how his footballs are prepared again, is absurd. You can't believe that one of the greatest QBs in the sport doesn't know this because it isn't in the player's manual. That is a weak argument. There is no way in hell someone in his position, as good as he is, doesn't control those balls. He cheated.. he got caught. The sad part, and the part that should piss off fans more than the punishment when the Patriots cheat.. is that they don't need to. they are an exceptional team that could win honestly.

You are making an assumption; in all my arguments I've never put forth any assumptions. I'm basing mine on explicit facts or statements. and I am talking about the alleged cheating. A player had never ever been suspended for even one game for cheating. I think that the largest penalty a player has ever received (if any has been actually so punished) might have amounted to $10-20K. Right now I can't research if any player has been punished at all for on-field cheating. I would think it would fall in line with stickum or cleats being too long.

And assuming that Brady did cheat, the only act the Wells report "proved" that he did was being "generally aware" of "inappropriate activities." Everything else is an assumption by the NFL. And once again we know how valuable assumptions are.

If you're going to take unprecedented steps to stop chicanery in the game I would think you'd want a stronger example. In law the saying goes "extreme action results in extreme decisions." If you want to believe that 4 games is fine for being "generally aware" of "inappropriate activities" I guess your definition of extreme differs from mine.

It won't matter anyway because either Brady plays the whole year or Garappolo leads them to 4-0. I think it's cute the Jets, Bills, and Fish think they have a chance.

 

[wobrien]

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[GenIke]

^^HAHA too soon

 

[jpakstis]

1a) new patriot fan in thread

Brady could get convicted of shooting down that Malaysian airline and I'd still be on his side.

 

[wobrien]

Brady could get convicted of shooting down that Malaysian airline and I'd still be on his side.

Great. You'll fit in nicely with the rest of the ******** in this thread.

Cheers!

 

[chisena]

Great. You'll fit in nicely with the rest of the ******** in this thread.

Cheers!

Amen. Brady's a dork.

 

[jpakstis]

Great. You'll fit in nicely with the rest of the ******** in this thread.

Cheers!

Everyone's either a masshole or just jealous.

 

[HoppyDaze]

You are making an assumption; in all my arguments I've never put forth any assumptions. I'm basing mine on explicit facts or statements. and I am talking about the alleged cheating. A player had never ever been suspended for even one game for cheating. I think that the largest penalty a player has ever received (if any has been actually so punished) might have amounted to $10-20K. Right now I can't research if any player has been punished at all for on-field cheating. I would think it would fall in line with stickum or cleats being too long.

And assuming that Brady did cheat, the only act the Wells report "proved" that he did was being "generally aware" of "inappropriate activities." Everything else is an assumption by the NFL. And once again we know how valuable assumptions are.

If you're going to take unprecedented steps to stop chicanery in the game I would think you'd want a stronger example. In law the saying goes "extreme action results in extreme decisions." If you want to believe that 4 games is fine for being "generally aware" of "inappropriate activities" I guess your definition of extreme differs from mine.

It won't matter anyway because either Brady plays the whole year or Garappolo leads them to 4-0. I think it's cute the Jets, Bills, and Fish think they have a chance.

You were born out of your moms ass

 

[Cape Brewing]

Hmmmmmm... No way! A super butt hurt ex-Jets exec. Who saw that coming?

http://nesn.com/2015/07/report-nfls-mike-kensil-source-for-original-incorrect-deflategate-report/

This is gonna get some legs as a story. Sr NFL exec leaking false stories to the media, exaggerating the whole story?

Whooooooops.

 

[Roadliner]

You are making an assumption; in all my arguments I've never put forth any assumptions. I'm basing mine on explicit facts or statements. and I am talking about the alleged cheating. A player had never ever been suspended for even one game for cheating. I think that the largest penalty a player has ever received (if any has been actually so punished) might have amounted to $10-20K. Right now I can't research if any player has been punished at all for on-field cheating. I would think it would fall in line with stickum or cleats being too long.

And assuming that Brady did cheat, the only act the Wells report "proved" that he did was being "generally aware" of "inappropriate activities." Everything else is an assumption by the NFL. And once again we know how valuable assumptions are.

If you're going to take unprecedented steps to stop chicanery in the game I would think you'd want a stronger example. In law the saying goes "extreme action results in extreme decisions." If you want to believe that 4 games is fine for being "generally aware" of "inappropriate activities" I guess your definition of extreme differs from mine.

It won't matter anyway because either Brady plays the whole year or Garappolo leads them to 4-0. I think it's cute the Jets, Bills, and Fish think they have a chance.

i can't deny it's an assumption. As is the assumption of the NFL that he cheated. Because Goodell Knows that an NFL quarterback knows how his equipment is handled. A QB's equipment being a football. I'm sure you believe Slash doesn't understand how a guitar works either. Acting like Brady doesn't know because it's in a different book is a joke, and you have to know that.

Pats fans

 

[Roadliner]

The team did cheat.. they've cheated before. And as a fan of football that pisses me off. And it should piss the Patriots' fans off too. I'm not saying you should stop being a fan.. well, you should, but that's because the Pats suck lol.. but it should tick you off. Especially when you have a team that is already damn good without the cheating. You shouldn't be pissed at the people who caught them doing it. If it takes some serious fines and suspensions to get these players, coaches, and organizations to respect the game and keep their **** straight then I support that.

 

[day_trippr]

Jeeze, we're being inundated by Hoppy clones now??

There goes the neighborhood...

 

[Cape Brewing]

Because Goodell Knows that an NFL quarterback knows how his equipment is handled. A QB's equipment being a football. I'm sure you believe Slash doesn't understand how a guitar works either. Acting like Brady doesn't know because it's in a different book is a joke, and you have to know that.

I think this is a huge part of the public's perception and something that is heard constantly.

And... I think it is a huge pile if bullshti and, to a large extent, the heart of this entire asinine "scandal"

Do NFL QBs have preferences on how they like the footballs? Of course.

Brady obviously likes the ball on the lower end of the PSI scale. In the Wells report, the equip guy jokes about "fcku Tom, I'm going to make the balls like rugby balls".

So does a QB have a feel for the ball? Of course. But this notion that you can hand a ball to a QB and he would be able to tell you the fckuing PSI is total bullshti. So you can hand two balls to Peyton Manning and he can tell you, "this ball is 11.8 psi and this one is 11.1 psi"?? Bullshti. All he can tell you, maybe, is that one is a hair softer than the other.

And that's what you're basing your entire bullshti opinion on... a QBs ability to tell you the exact psi at any given moment. Because if a QB can't tell you, almost exactly, what the psi in a ball is at any given moment, there is no way Brady could know that the balls were outside the range of the rules.

And like I have asked people to show me multiple times on this thread.... Show me where in the Wells Report Brady tells anyone to break a rule. He doesn't. He btiches at his equip guys that the balls are too stiff.

And from that everyone makes this huge leap to "Brady has to know therefore he is the ringleader of the most damaging cheating scandal in the history of organized sports!!!"

It's fckuing stupid. Ridiculously stupid.

 

[bluemoose]

Hmmmmmm... No way! A super butt hurt ex-Jets exec. Who saw that coming?

http://nesn.com/2015/07/report-nfls-mike-kensil-source-for-original-incorrect-deflategate-report/

This is gonna get some legs as a story. Sr NFL exec leaking false stories to the media, exaggerating the whole story?

Whooooooops.

They will bury this like they are trying to bury Brady.

 

[bluemoose]

The team did cheat.. they've cheated before. And as a fan of football that pisses me off. And it should piss the Patriots' fans off too. I'm not saying you should stop being a fan.. well, you should, but that's because the Pats suck lol.. but it should tick you off. Especially when you have a team that is already damn good without the cheating. You shouldn't be pissed at the people who caught them doing it. If it takes some serious fines and suspensions to get these players, coaches, and organizations to respect the game and keep their **** straight then I support that.

Suck like a 4 time Super Bowl champion, LOL.

You tick me off.

 

[h22lude]

I think this is a huge part of the public's perception and something that is heard constantly.

And... I think it is a huge pile if bullshti and, to a large extent, the heart of this entire asinine "scandal"

Do NFL QBs have preferences on how they like the footballs? Of course.

Brady obviously likes the ball on the lower end of the PSI scale. In the Wells report, the equip guy jokes about "fcku Tom, I'm going to make the balls like rugby balls".

So does a QB have a feel for the ball? Of course. But this notion that you can hand a ball to a QB and he would be able to tell you the fckuing PSI is total bullshti. So you can hand two balls to Peyton Manning and he can tell you, "this ball is 11.8 psi and this one is 11.1 psi"?? Bullshti. All he can tell you, maybe, is that one is a hair softer than the other.

And that's what you're basing your entire bullshti opinion on... a QBs ability to tell you the exact psi at any given moment. Because if a QB can't tell you, almost exactly, what the psi in a ball is at any given moment, there is no way Brady could know that the balls were outside the range of the rules.

And like I have asked people to show me multiple times on this thread.... Show me where in the Wells Report Brady tells anyone to break a rule. He doesn't. He btiches at his equip guys that the balls are too stiff.

And from that everyone makes this huge leap to "Brady has to know therefore he is the ringleader of the most damaging cheating scandal in the history of organized sports!!!"

It's fckuing stupid. Ridiculously stupid.

You are never going to win this battle in here or with any other Patriots hater. I have asked the same question and I get 1) he had to have known, the equipment guys wouldn't put it under 12.5 psi without him asking or 2) they come back and ask "Do you honestly think he didn't have anything to do with it?" or 3) This isn't a court of law, "probable" is good enough. None of which answers my question "What evidence do you have directly against Brady? The newest one is "Him destroying his phone looks really bad."

Haters want to say the Pats/Brady cheated. I know the haters in here are going to come back with something stupid. That is how we know they are haters and can't give hard evidence against Brady.

 

[Roadliner]

You are never going to win this battle in here or with any other Patriots hater. I have asked the same question and I get 1) he had to have known, the equipment guys wouldn't put it under 12.5 psi without him asking or 2) they come back and ask "Do you honestly think he didn't have anything to do with it?" or 3) This isn't a court of law, "probable" is good enough. None of which answers my question "What evidence do you have directly against Brady? The newest one is "Him destroying his phone looks really bad."

Haters want to say the Pats/Brady cheated. I know the haters in here are going to come back with something stupid. That is how we know they are haters and can't give hard evidence against Brady.

Not any more than a Pats fan will ever be not blindly support the team. They could all go on a murder spree and shoot everyone in the stadium in the head on HD video, and you would still argue that they did nothing wrong.

 

[Roadliner]

On another note.. What's the word on the new Cardinals' female coach?

 

[PackerfaninSanDiego]

On another note.. What's the word on the new Cardinals' female coach?

this has absolutely nothing to do with Obnoxious Football Trash Talk

 

[h22lude]

Not any more than a Pats fan will ever be not blindly support the team. They could all go on a murder spree and shoot everyone in the stadium in the head on HD video, and you would still argue that they did nothing wrong.

Lol you are absolutely blinded by your hatred. Any Pats fan will tell you they thought Hernandez did it after the evidence came out...which is what you need to convict someone. As soon as ESPN said 11 out of the 12 balls were 2psi lower, every Pats hater automatically said Brady was guilty with no evidence. And now that there is still no evidence, Pats haters still say he is guilty. You were just looking for some stupid excuse to say why the Pats were so good. You haters are funny

 

[Roadliner]

Lol you are absolutely blinded by your hatred. Any Pats fan will tell you they thought Hernandez did it after the evidence came out...which is what you need to convict someone. As soon as ESPN said 11 out of the 12 balls were 2psi lower, every Pats hater automatically said Brady was guilty with no evidence. And now that there is still no evidence, Pats haters still say he is guilty. You were just looking for some stupid excuse to say why the Pats were so good. You haters are funny

lol I don't need an excuse to say the Pats are good. I've said it multiple times. They are a fantastic team. short of getting caught cheating... again... they were the best out there this past year. Which as I've said ticks me off even more. It's not like they are the Raiders just trying to do anything they can come up with to build some momentum. They are a damn good team, with one of the best QBs to ever throw a pigskin.
The funny part is the lovers who can't see the wrong doing. I'm basing my opinion not on the ESPN report, but the same information the NFL Commissioner is... The balls were indeed underinflated, and there are certain people who are involved in how the equipment is handled. Knowing how damn good Brady is, I don't believe there is any way in hell anything is done to those footballs absent his knowledge or input.

 

[Roadliner]

Of course, if the Seahawks didn't try some stupid pass play from the one yard line.... the Pats would have been the second best last year

 

[h22lude]

lol I don't need an excuse to say the Pats are good. I've said it multiple times. They are a fantastic team. short of getting caught cheating... again... they were the best out there this past year. Which as I've said ticks me off even more. It's not like they are the Raiders just trying to do anything they can come up with to build some momentum. They are a damn good team, with one of the best QBs to ever throw a pigskin.
The funny part is the lovers who can't see the wrong doing. I'm basing my opinion not on the ESPN report, but the same information the NFL Commissioner is... The balls were indeed underinflated, and there are certain people who are involved in how the equipment is handled. Knowing how damn good Brady is, I don't believe there is any way in hell anything is done to those footballs absent his knowledge or input.

And once again you aren't showing evidence. Were they under inflated at the beginning of the game? Or where they a tick under at halftime? You dont believe anything was done to the balls on purpose or there is evidence they qere underinflated on purpose? You sound like Wells. He probably knew but i really have no clue. You have no clue what you are talking about. Typical headline reader.

 

[jpakstis]

Of course, if the Seahawks didn't try some stupid pass play from the one yard line.... the Pats would have been the second best last year

Belichick's genius is that he goaded Petey into throwing that pass. The best part is that all the haters can't see it.

 

[Roadliner]

Belichick's genius is that he goaded Petey into throwing that pass. The best part is that all the haters can't see it.

I think you might be right.. which is genius.. sent out a strong line that scared the Hawks.

 

[Roadliner]

And once again you aren't showing evidence. Were they under inflated at the beginning of the game? Or where they a tick under at halftime? You dont believe anything was done to the balls on purpose or there is evidence they qere underinflated on purpose? You sound like Wells. He probably knew but i really have no clue. You have no clue what you are talking about. Typical headline reader.

No one's denying that it's circumstantial. Doesn't mean it isn't true.

 

[wobrien]

I've asked this before and it's an honest-to-goodness question. If what Brady allegedly did is no big deal and should have only been a $25k fine, why would the league come down on him and the team so hard? They would be smearing the best team over the last decade and the face of the league/best QB of all time. If it was no big deal, why not sweep it under the rug or give the team a slap on the wrist?

This is the part I just can't wrap my head around...

 

[GenIke]

would've lost to the packers though