New England IPA "Northeast" style IPA

[Noob_Brewer]

If that's a pint glass you have freaky big hands

It a sampler. I’m not Andre the giant lol

 

[Noob_Brewer]

Has anyone experimented with any of the genetically engineered yeast strains out there similar to what Berkley brewing science is making?

Nope. Intriguing though!

 

[Loud Brewing]

Nope. Intriguing though!

Yeah I think I'm going to pull the trigger on a few different strains and see how it goes. I will report back.

 

[Paul_Aris]

I was wondering why not use this yeast
Imperial Yeast A38 Juice says its for east coast IPA's

 

[MrPowers]

I was wondering why not use this yeast
Imperial Yeast A38 Juice says its for east coast IPA's

Go for it. It’s just Imperial’s version of LAIII (1318).

 

[Paul_Aris]

Go for it. It’s just Imperial’s version of LAIII (1318).

I already have the 1318 so will use that. Sounds like their the same then.

 

[HopsAreGood]

Has anyone experimented with any of the genetically engineered yeast strains out there similar to what Berkley brewing science is making?

I’ve never heard of this but I took a look at their website it’s pretty intriguing what they’re doing...adding terpenes to the yeast to get hop like flavors and aromas. This got me googling terpenoids/terpenes and I came across all kinds of stuff.

Has anyone ever played around with adding “weed strain terpene blends” to their beer? The terpenes that make up
Cannabis and hops are very much the same and I can see some really interesting possibilities. I’m definitely a fan of getting some dank/weed character to balance out my fruity/citrusy IPAs and this seems to open up some new possibilities. Rather than just getting generic cannabis character you can choose very specific strains with very specific character, very similar to hops. There seems to be over 50 “strains” available all with slightly different profiles. Fruity, earthy, berry, sweet, etc...

It looks like the recommended usage is about .1ml to .5ml per 5 gallons, and you’d need a carrier (ever clear or something else) You simply add it into your serving keg.

Anyway, seems interesting to me but could also be a horrible idea. Anyone have any experience with this?

 

[rickyrich]

Your tried and true, favorite NEIPA recipe...Go!!!

 

[stickyfinger]

OMG, i have been hoping for some super GE yeast strains for so long! I cant wait to hear your results. what strains are you getting?

Has anyone experimented with any of the genetically engineered yeast strains out there similar to what Berkley brewing science is making?

 

[stickyfinger]

This reminds me of an experience I had recently. I was topping off the hydraulic fluid in my log splitter and I SWEAR I got a strong character of dank hops in the aroma (among other less pleasant aromas of course.) I wonder if the "oil" or "diesel" character of some hops is related to some petroleum compounds in the fluid? Crazy!

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I’ve never heard of this but I took a look at their website it’s pretty intriguing what they’re doing...adding terpenes to the yeast to get hop like flavors and aromas. This got me googling terpenoids/terpenes and I came across all kinds of stuff.

Has anyone ever played around with adding “weed strain terpene blends” to their beer? The terpenes that make up
Cannabis and hops are very much the same and I can see some really interesting possibilities. I’m definitely a fan of getting some dank/weed character to balance out my fruity/citrusy IPAs and this seems to open up some new possibilities. Rather than just getting generic cannabis character you can choose very specific strains with very specific character, very similar to hops. There seems to be over 50 “strains” available all with slightly different profiles. Fruity, earthy, berry, sweet, etc...

It looks like the recommended usage is about .1ml to .5ml per 5 gallons, and you’d need a carrier (ever clear or something else) You simply add it into your serving keg.

Anyway, seems interesting to me but could also be a horrible idea. Anyone have any experience with this?

 

[stickyfinger]

Yummy! I love this cold crash, warm up, dry hop, cold crash method!! Thanks!

 

[secretlevel]

Your tried and true, favorite NEIPA recipe...Go!!!

Page 1, my friend! People also dig Weldwerks Juicy Bits recipe posted on CB&B.

 

[SanPancho]

The yeast are modified to produce the terpenes, they aren’t added. Not sure you misunderstood or misspoke.

terpenes can be good on their own when added but best with real hops. Then gmo yeast will produce them but the results are a bit so-so.

its the same problem as blending terpenes with hops. You’re adding tons of one thing vs the various ones coming naturally. There’s interaction that doesn’t necessarily happen when basically one terpene is on the menu. It needs to mimic the natural blend to a degree. It can be done but it’s not as easy as it sounds or seems at first take.

 

[HopsAreGood]

The yeast are modified to produce the terpenes, they aren’t added. Not sure you misunderstood or misspoke.

terpenes can be good on their own when added but best with real hops. Then gmo yeast will produce them but the results are a bit so-so.

its the same problem as blending terpenes with hops. You’re adding tons of one thing vs the various ones coming naturally. There’s interaction that doesn’t necessarily happen when basically one terpene is on the menu. It needs to mimic the natural blend to a degree. It can be done but it’s not as easy as it sounds or seems at first take.

Misspoke...thank you for pointing that out. What I was thinking was brewing a simple Citra/Mosaic NEIPA as I normally would, not changing anything about it..then adding approximately .3ml of whatever strain I choose to the serving keg. Something fruity with some earthy undertones. If it comes out good I could see keeping a simple base beer such as said Citra/mosaic NEIPA, and then experimenting with different combos and ratios of all of the available blends available from Floraplex. To be clear I’m only thinking about using their pre-made blends that accurately represent high quality cannabis strains. (They contain zero thc or cbd)

The beer would still be 100% normal in every way, just adding in the Terpenes at the end.

EDIT: I’m going to do this and will report back with results. May be a few weeks though.

 

[HopsAreGood]

Interesting read regarding terpenes:
https://www.miaminewtimes.com/resta...nabis-beer-trend-for-miami-breweries-10186812

 

[GearHead71]

Just brewed this for the first time. It's been fermenting for 9 days using 1272 yeast at 68F. I dry hopped it tonight and figured it would be done fermenting but it's still at 1.028.

OG 1.068
Estimated FG 1.019

Does 1272 tend to take a little longer? Or do you think it's stuck?

The sample tasted amazing btw! Pineapple juice with still enough bitterness to let you know it's beer. I went with 4oz Citra and 2oz Galaxy at whirlpool and dry hop. And .5oz warrior at 60min.

 

[Northern_Brewer]

I was topping off the hydraulic fluid in my log splitter and I SWEAR I got a strong character of dank hops in the aroma (among other less pleasant aromas of course.) I wonder if the "oil" or "diesel" character of some hops is related to some petroleum compounds in the fluid? Crazy!

The most famous example of that is mature riesling wine, where "petrol" (gasoline) is a classic tasting note linked to 1,1,6-trimethyl-1,2-dihydronaphthalene (TDN). See eg this : https://www.awri.com.au/wp-content/uploads/Sept-Oct-2012-AWRI-Report.pdf and this for more on the pathways (there's two, via actinidol and vitaspirane which ultimately derive from tetraterpenes like lutein and beta-carotene) : https://waterhouse.ucdavis.edu/whats-in-wine/norisoprenoids and https://www.journals.ac.za/index.php/sajev/article/download/1455/659

 

[jakturner]

I'm looking to dry hop with Nelson and Citra, anyone brewed with Nelson recently? I am wondering if I should go 1:1 or go heavier on the Nelson?

 

[couchsending]

Use Nelson all the time. How's the stuff you have smell? Heavy on the diesel? Light on the Diesel?

Go heavy on the Nelson if you like Nelson

Go heavy on the Citra if you like Citra

 

[jakturner]

Use Nelson all the time. How's the stuff you have smell? Heavy on the diesel? Light on the Diesel?

Go heavy on the Nelson if you like Nelson

Go heavy on the Citra if you like Citra

Its still vacuum sealed in the bag from YVH, I guess I'll see when it is time to dry hop. I like to use up open hops hot side and try to crack fresh bags right before dry hop if possible.

 

[Dgallo]

Its still vacuum sealed in the bag from YVH, I guess I'll see when it is time to dry hop. I like to use up open hops hot side and try to crack fresh bags right before dry hop if possible.

I do the same. I believe it has helped

 

[popquizkid]

Just brewed this for the first time. It's been fermenting for 9 days using 1272 yeast at 68F. I dry hopped it tonight and figured it would be done fermenting but it's still at 1.028.

OG 1.068
Estimated FG 1.019

Does 1272 tend to take a little longer? Or do you think it's stuck?

The sample tasted amazing btw! Pineapple juice with still enough bitterness to let you know it's beer. I went with 4oz Citra and 2oz Galaxy at whirlpool and dry hop. And .5oz warrior at 60min.

In my experience 1272 definitely takes longer than the other strains often used with NEIPAs. Last beer I brewed I transferred to spund in the keg with dry hops at day 6, and it wasn't really at terminal until day 11. What temp do you have it at currently? As with any ale yeast I like to ramp up the temp at the end of fermentation to ensure the yeast finishes out properly.

 

[SanPancho]

ah, got it. i thought you were referring to using the GMO yeast as well as the terpenes. another thing to look into is how they're prepared. some are in more of a natural state and fairly oily/hydrophobic, but others have been emulsified and are water soluble. will affect when/where you can add them.

have you looked into pricing? some of them can be pretty expensive.

 

[HopsAreGood]

ah, got it. i thought you were referring to using the GMO yeast as well as the terpenes. another thing to look into is how they're prepared. some are in more of a natural state and fairly oily/hydrophobic, but others have been emulsified and are water soluble. will affect when/where you can add them.

have you looked into pricing? some of them can be pretty expensive.

This is what I’ve been looking at:
https://www.buyterpenesonline.com/knowledge-center/terpenes-and-beer/
Download their brewing with Terpenes document.

And:
https://www.buyterpenesonline.com/terpenes/terpene-blends/

$20 for 2 ml and the recommended amount amount I’ve seen is .1-.5 ml per 5 gallon keg. Pretty cheap.

They seem to have good reviews.

 

[SanPancho]

Definitely not similar to ones we’ve used.

 

[HopsAreGood]

Definitely not similar to ones we’ve used.

Is that a good thing or a bad thing? Lol

 

[SanPancho]

ha. i have no idea. in terms of ease of use the water based ones are obviously superior. but no idea if that affects aromas/flavors or potency or anything like that. the ones im familiar with are either straight terps like linalool, geraniol, etc or the more expensive ones which are a blend of terps to recreate a hop variety like citra, simcoe, mosiac, etc.

looking back i now realize you were going for a dank/weed input. i was wondering why all the varieties on the website had super weird names......

 

[HopsAreGood]

Yeah, the idea/hope is that because hops and cannabis are so similar I can find some really amazing flavor and aroma combinations. Using the pre-made strains seems easier than trying to use individual terpenes. We’ll see how it goes.

 

[beervoid]

View attachment 676981 Yeah, the idea/hope is that because hops and cannabis are so similar I can find some really amazing flavor and aroma combinations. Using the pre-made strains seems easier than trying to use individual terpenes. We’ll see how it goes.

The only thing I can imagine being a problem is getting it to mix properly. On a large scale these sort of oils are recommended to be infused inline so during a transfer to make them mix as best as possible.

The times I've tried to put them (oils from glacier hop ranch) into kegs i just got a really strong chemical oily flavor from them at first poor (using floating system) and then it dissappeared. Like the oils just floated at the top.

Looks like a super cool experiment! Please keep us updated if you decide to test them out.
Cheers

 

[HopsAreGood]

The only thing I can imagine being a problem is getting it to mix properly. On a large scale these sort of oils are recommended to be infused inline so during a transfer to make them mix as best as possible.

The times I've tried to put them (oils from glacier hop ranch) into kegs i just got a really strong chemical oily flavor from them at first poor (using floating system) and then it dissappeared. Like the oils just floated at the top.

Looks like a super cool experiment! Please keep us updated if you decide to test them out.
Cheers

My tentative plan is this:
I use the fermentation co2 to purge my serving keg. I’m planning to put about .3ml of the terpene solution, pre mixed with about 2ml of everclear, into the bottom of the serving keg before sealing it up. (They recommend solution between 1:5 and 1:9 of terpene to carrier, so this would be about 1:7) Then, when I transfer from the fermenter into the keg the beer coming in will hopefully help to mix it up. Also, when I carb the keg, I get it to my desired temperature and set the regulator to my desired psi..usually around 12. I then shake and roll the keg until no more bubbles can be heard. I’ve been carbing kegs with this method for a while with good success. This process should help to further mix the solution as well. I’m going to email them as well to see if they have any suggestions regarding this process. Fingers crossed...