Pretty sure it’s fawcett oat maltBy malted oats do you mean Golden Naked Oats?
No, I mean oat malt or malted oat.By malted oats do you mean Golden Naked Oats?
I would agree for anything over 6ish % abv. Pale ales benefit from the added complexity/sweetness, in my hands. Still wouldn’t go above 10%…No, I mean oat malt or malted oat.
Golden naked oats are a crystal 10L oat malt. If you use that, I would suggest not surpassing 5%
I’d be far more apt to use some Vienna, Munich, Caramunich, in a pale before gno but everyone has their preferenceI would agree for anything over 6ish % abv. Pale ales benefit from the added complexity/sweetness, in my hands. Still wouldn’t go above 10%…
Anti o2, Soft crashing, positive pressure (2 psi). Then anywhere from 50-60 depending on the hop varietiesDgallo - what does your dry hop process look like?
I haven’t heard anything from Nelson but I heard Galaxy was good. I ended up grabbing mosaic and Talus this week.Looking at doing a Yakima Valley order over the next few days and wondering is there anymore updates on their 2022 Nelson? Remember a few pages back some saying it wasn't great. They still have 2021 in stock so wondering should I just stick to that. Also is their 22 Galaxy bad? Any new experimental hops worth checking out? Would like to try something new and interesting.
I bought two pounds from YVH and have a DIPA on the books this weekend featuring 2022 Nelson (along side Strata, Citra, and HBC586). Also hoping it’s not a bust… if it’s as good as 2021, I’ll be happy. Hoping for more white grape and less diesel this time around. I haven’t opened the bags yet.Looking at doing a Yakima Valley order over the next few days and wondering is there anymore updates on their 2022 Nelson? Remember a few pages back some saying it wasn't great. They still have 2021 in stock so wondering should I just stick to that. Also is their 22 Galaxy bad? Any new experimental hops worth checking out? Would like to try something new and interesting.
Nice find - I haven’t seen Nectaron anywhere.. Let us know how it isGalaxy is great so is Nelson. I recently purchased 2022 Nectaron from northwest hop farms out of BC. Haven’t used it yet but I have high expectations.
Good to know, thanks. I'll add them to my order. Still hesitant with Galaxy as I must have about 25oz of the 2020 crop in my freezer that's junk. Can't bring myself to use it.Galaxy is great so is Nelson. I recently purchased 2022 Nectaron from northwest hop farms out of BC. Haven’t used it yet but I have high expectations.
FWIW, I’ve been using all my suspect hops in the whirlpool without issue. YMMVGood to know, thanks. I'll add them to my order. Still hesitant with Galaxy as I must have about 25oz of the 2020 crop in my freezer that's junk. Can't bring myself to use it.
That's a good idea. One way of chipping away at the stock. This Galaxy is just so bad, seems pointless using it. I got 16oz of it from Yakima at the time, I complained how bad it was and they sent me another 16oz of it that was just slightly better but still not was Galaxy used to be.FWIW, I’ve been using all my suspect hops in the whirlpool without issue. YMMV
Bad in what way? Onion/garlic or cheese? If it’s just a lack of tropical character, then I’d whirlpool. I’ve had to toss hops that had a cheesy quality to them, I can attest that anything closely resembling parmesan flavor will ruin an IPAThat's a good idea. One way of chipping away at the stock. This Galaxy is just so bad, seems pointless using it. I got 16oz of it from Yakima at the time, I complained how bad it was and they sent me another 16oz of it that was just slightly better but still not was Galaxy used to be.
A real strong vegetal smell and zero tropical fruit aroma. I had a small amount of 2019 Galaxy left and I compared the two and it was night and day. The 19 batch was pure passionfruit.Bad in what way? Onion/garlic or cheese? If it’s just a lack of tropical character, then I’d whirlpool. I’ve had to toss hops that had a cheesy quality to them, I can attest that anything closely resembling parmesan flavor will ruin an IPA
I don’t think it’ll hurt in the WP, but I would definitely use it as a minor proportion. That’s a bummerA real strong vegetal smell and zero tropical fruit aroma. I had a small amount of 2019 Galaxy left and I compared the two and it was night and day. The 19 batch was pure passionfruit.
Welll.. cheesy implies short-chain acids which aren't good in themselves but which are the building blocks for all sorts of interesting esters if you let yeast play with them. So you don't want to dry hop with them, but potentially a little bit in the whirlpool could be a good thing.Bad in what way? Onion/garlic or cheese? If it’s just a lack of tropical character, then I’d whirlpool. I’ve had to toss hops that had a cheesy quality to them, I can attest that anything closely resembling parmesan flavor will ruin an IPA
I totally understand where you are coming from. I just read a paper from BrewingScience (Takoi, 2019) that showed transformation of cheesy fatty acids like isovaleric acid & 2-methylbutyric into fruity esters ethyl isovalerate & ethyl 2-methylbutyrate, respectively, from a lager strain. Apparently Brett is really good at this. I haven't read anything about cerevisiae.Welll.. cheesy implies short-chain acids which aren't good in themselves but which are the building blocks for all sorts of interesting esters if you let yeast play with them. So you don't want to dry hop with them, but potentially a little bit in the whirlpool could be a good thing.
I've dumped pounds of galaxy before. just do it. lolGood to know, thanks. I'll add them to my order. Still hesitant with Galaxy as I must have about 25oz of the 2020 crop in my freezer that's junk. Can't bring myself to use it.
I did that with some Citra Lupomax. I complained, and they sent me another 16oz of diesel fuel lol.That's a good idea. One way of chipping away at the stock. This Galaxy is just so bad, seems pointless using it. I got 16oz of it from Yakima at the time, I complained how bad it was and they sent me another 16oz of it that was just slightly better but still not was Galaxy used to be.
Looks great! I just did practically the same hop bill but with the addition of Galaxy. Thought it was great. That said, as it aged it seemed to lean more malty so idk if I unfortunately slacked in process and picked up some o2 or if it was age with the combo. Keep me posted please on how your beer ages, will help me confirmSo this is my first beer with Coastal Haze. It turned out well! Definitely nothing wrong with it, it does let the hops shine better than Juice, Verdant. I do think I like A24 a bit better IMO. I mashed it the same schedule I normally use when I use A24 and A24 seems to attenuate better though. As it is Coastal Haze got me 75% AA with an OG of 1.072, FG was 1.017. I was shooting for 1.014. A24 typically gets me right at 80-81% AA every time. Again its a solid beer.
Dry Hopped this with Citra/Strata/Nelson in a 2:1:1 ratio. This flavor profile is downright excellent! I like the addition of nelson to Citra:Strata combos MUCH better than Citra:Strata alone or with a different third hop.
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Cold crashing will definitely help. Time is the best medicineSo I’ve got a NEIPA finishing right now, tried it out of the fermenter and it is like biting into a hop pellet. Not good. I moved the fermenter to my garage where it’s about 30 degrees to cold crash it for a few days. Hoping things will drop out of suspension before kegging. Plan after that is to let it sit in the keg for a week to see if the juicy flavor I want comes through.
Hop schedule was
1 oz Amarillo at 5 min
2 oz citra & 1 oz mosaic in whirlpool
2 oz citra & 1 oz el dorado in pre ferment DH
2 oz citra & 1 oz galaxy 4 days ago
Is this brew savable?
That’s what happens when you dryhop during or pre fermentation. Active yeast bind polyphenols and protiens causing hop burn. That’s what you’re experiencing. Time will help, will take about 2-3 weeks at serving temps to drop out of suspensionSo I’ve got a NEIPA finishing right now, tried it out of the fermenter and it is like biting into a hop pellet. Not good. I moved the fermenter to my garage where it’s about 30 degrees to cold crash it for a few days. Hoping things will drop out of suspension before kegging. Plan after that is to let it sit in the keg for a week to see if the juicy flavor I want comes through.
Hop schedule was
1 oz Amarillo at 5 min
2 oz citra & 1 oz mosaic in whirlpool
2 oz citra & 1 oz el dorado in pre ferment DH
2 oz citra & 1 oz galaxy 4 days ago
Is this brew savable?
There goes the claim they are supposed to be consistent in flavor then.I did that with some Citra Lupomax. I complained, and they sent me another 16oz of diesel fuel lol.
Congrats man! I know how that goes, we are expecting our 3rd within the next 3 weeks or so. You gotta start working on some dme/no boil recipes. You’ll be done in less then 3 hours with clean up and your wife/lady/partner will allow you to brew far more often LolHey everyone…it’s been a while since I’ve posted. Had a baby in July and well, let’s just say I’ve had zero time to put together a brew day. I’m going to have a day to myself this weekend so here comes my first brew in a while. Can’t wait.
I have some citra t-90s for late kettle, mosaic incognito for the WP, and then some citra cryo, lupomax, and hop hash for the dry hop.
Pretty pumped for this one. Cheers!
Congrats to you as well! This is my second…can only imagine 3. Lol.Congrats man! I know how that goes, we are expecting our 3rd within the next 3 weeks or so. You gotta start working on some dme/no boil recipes. You’ll be done in less then 3 hours with clean up and your wife/lady/partner will allow you to brew far more often Lol
wish you would have got a hold of me, we are only 15 min away, it’s gorgeous in the fall. Next time you up, do so, I’ll send you to some awesome taprooms/bottle shops with insane food.Congrats to you as well! This is my second…can only imagine 3. Lol.
We actually took a weekend trip In October up to your neck of the woods. Hit Thacher Boyd state park, Fidens, the city beer hall, stayed a night in Albany, then stopped in Catskill and Hudson on the way home the next day. Hit crossroads, subversive, and Suarez. I love it upstate.
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Should be good! Congrats on your baby!Hey everyone…it’s been a while since I’ve posted. Had a baby in July and well, let’s just say I’ve had zero time to put together a brew day. I’m going to have a day to myself this weekend so here comes my first brew in a while. Can’t wait.
I have some citra t-90s for late kettle, mosaic incognito for the WP, and then some citra cryo, lupomax, and hop hash for the dry hop.
Pretty pumped for this one. Cheers!
I was able to get some from freestyle hops and it’s great. Its like a peach/nectarine forward nelson. I got it from someone I know in the industry but I haven’t seen any for homebrewers, where did you see it?Whoa new hop from new zealand Peacharine is nuts! If you can get some buy it all!
Your beer looks great. Love everything about that combo. I love that yeast too. I’ve never had it get Belgian like though. I wonder what it was that caused it as it’s a Conan and Sac trios blend. Interesting never the lessCitra/Nelson/Riwaka NEIPA update:
14 lb 2 row
3 lb flaked oats
0.75 lb wheat
0.5 oz Warrior (19 IBU)
2 oz Nelson whirlpool (175 for 30 min)
2 oz Riwaka whirlpool (175 for 30 min)
2 oz Citra whirlpool (175 for 30 min)
2 oz Nelson dry hop
2 oz Riwaka dry hop
4 oz Citra dry hop
Imperial Dry Hop (slow rise 62 to 72 degrees)
75:150 sulfate:chloride
O.G. = 1.060
F.G. = 1.010
ABV = 6.6%
Color is right where I want it, much better than my last beer I posted about. Aroma is overripe fruit, pine, white wine, slightly dank. Flavor is pineapple, pine, white wine, peach, dankness and an earthy herbal quality. When I first tried this beer after a few weeks it was so overwhelmingly estery, I thought I had made a huge mistake with Imperial Dry Hop. It tasted like a Belgian ale. To my surprise, just a week or two later, the esters calmed down to exactly the right level to compliment the hops in a NEIPA. Mouthfeel is on the lighter side but still juicy. This is a nice departure from the straight mango/pineapple I typically brew, and overall I'm really happy with it.
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