won’t oxidize that bad in a day, it’s most likely pure particulate making look brown. That said 10 oz in the serving keg seems like far to much. Your going to have any extremely difficult time removing the bag when the hops break up and swell. I have a strong feeling you will have difficulties continuously pouring that keg
So maybe I should transfer to a new keg? The beer does taste harsh lol
Might have to chalk it up to a lost batch. Like @Dgallo said, 10oz in a serving keg is way too much. Even if you're able to transfer it to a new keg, most of the oils are extracted between 24-48 hours, and the harshness will most likely not go away, even over time.
You’re right, it was hops sitting at the bottom of the keg giving it that color. I transferred to a clean purged keg and the beer looks great again. Just have to wait and see how it develops.
Yeah man. I’m very confident in my process so I was shocked when I saw the color. Smelled great tho. This will be a good experiment. 10oz dry hop in the conical for 3 days then dump and crash. Then transfer into purged keg with another 10oz haha. Most hops I ever used in a 7.3% beer. Hops were 8oz HBC586 and 2oz chinook for both charges. I’ll post a few pics of the brown color and then after I transferred to the keg the light color.
I kinda now wish I left it on the keg hops longer haha. It’s still too early but the beer is drinking fine. Not harsh at all. Not too hoppy. Color is fine. Wish I shook the keg to mix in that hop bag better.
Your really not picking up the hops after a total of a 20 oz dryhop?!?!? That’s literally dryhoping at just under 8lbs/barrel not to mention your hotside hops.
That's great to hear!
I’ll let you know in a few days! Haha nah no covid here. I typically dry hop in the conical after crashing and dumping all the yeast. I dry hop around 8-14oz in a 7gal conical and rouse the hops from the bottom with c02 a couple times a day for 2-3 days. This has always worked for me but I like experimenting. I’ll post final pics soon
14oz dry hop
I typically brew DIPAs and wouldn’t consider going less than this with 6G in the FV. That’s under 5lbs/barrel, correct? Are people still using much less in the DH than this?14oz dry hop
For doubles I’m exactly where your at. Sometimes a few ounces less if I have some wildly potent hops.
i've used the equivalent of 2 oz/gal in my most recent single IPAs. I wonder if more would be beneficial? I have been using Lupo for everything to try it out
That just blows my mind, but more so because I'm not 100% familiar with commercial DH rates, I guess. I've never gone more than a 10oz DH, and to me, it was overkill on my system. I make my 7-7.5% hazies with 14oz total, and that's sometimes pushing it. My best one, the one currently sitting in my keg about to kick any day was 13oz total.
Only 13oz hahah, I love this statement. Really puts this style in perspective.
Hahaha right. Actually just took a picture of it prior to sending it for its final crash
do you think there's a difference between pushing it over to serving keg vs just racking it over with an open top? have you compared?
I wouldn’t even attempt to compare to be honest. I close transfer only. The only chance for any o2 to get in is when I open the lid to dryhop while co2 is running to create positive pressure
Translating into sensible units, 10oz in 5 US gal is 15g/l which seems to be a pretty typical homebrew amount, say 12-15g/l seems to be normal. Some of the commercial NEIPAs here aimed at supermarket price points seem to go down to 10-12g/l, maybe even a bit less. But for an example of what top breweries are doing, Cloudwater used 9g/l (6oz in 5 US gal) dry hop in their classic (Untappd 4.41) DIPA v3 in 2016, their standard for DIPAs these days is 24g/l (ie about 16oz in 5 US gal). But they have all the professional toys like centrifuges to manage the resulting hop soup.
Seems to me that everyone's process/system is unique and everyone's taste buds are different. There is evidence, albeit anecdotal, that less is more AND more is more, as you stated above.
i can confirm it is a massive foamer. i just tried it. Attenuation was pretty run of the mill, similar to other englishy strains for me. i thought it would be higher. i kept it pretty low temp to start though. it makes for a hazy nice ipa. I wouldln't write home to mom about it, but it's good. I don't know if you could tell the difference between it and dryhop, probably not.
Not sure the blend, but it's the best neipa yeast I've used so far. I've used Dry Hop, and it's definitely not the same yeast. 100% use a blow off tube. I do, and I still get 3 to 4 blow offs per fermentation, but I try for 6.5 gal in a 7 gallon fermenter, so that's my fault! I shoot to mash 152 for 60min. OG 1.068-1.070 FG 1.014-1.018ish. Seems to depend on the mood of the yeast. Ferment at 68, ramp to 70-72 to finish. I overbuild my starter to harvest 100 bil cells to build my next starter.
Quite possible. I've used London Fog quite extensively as well, and it produces a different beer to 1318 and Coastal Haze. My first time doing a split batch of neipa was with CH and LF. Loved them both.
Man I just got some of the worst nelson I've ever received from Yakima too. Hard as a gd rock no aroma and the alpha is way below what they posted, and it was the 2022 batch. Ymmv obviously just a heads up.
These are both good data points and helpful. Thanks! Seems both your attenuation is in the 75-80% range which is fine with me. Other than your mash schedules you already mentioned, are these attenuation without dextrose? I'd prefer not using it tbh but just want to know what to expect as much as possible and thanks again. @wepeeler I've overbuilt starters for Dry Hop to three generations with zero issues (that I can detect) considering its a blend. Your experience similar with Coastal Haze?
I only use 2 Row, White Wheat and Carafoam in my neipas. Carafoam isn't dextrose, but I guess it acts like it?
I still ended up ordering 2 lbs in hope I get the good stuff this time. It's weird how different the alpha ranges from bag to bag
Galaxy hasn't been incredible since 2016.
2row, white wheat, malted oats, a touch of carapils and a touch of honey malt. I want to try a step mash but could be complicated on my system, I have coastal haze on my stir plate now for a batch this weekend. Hoping to see what coastal haze does with a higher gravity beer, looking into double neipa range for this one.
