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z987k

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In the spirit of making crazy ass **** lately, I've decided to revisit an old idea of making a sahti style of beer. Comments and suggestions are encouraged as I might change things if I can source(forage?) some juniper branches/twigs.

All grain brew(a must here) mashed at 148 for a highly fermentable wort.
7lbs 2-row
2lbs Honey(added a few days into fermentation maybe 8oz at a time)
1.5lbs White wheat
1.5lbs Rye Malt
1lb Flaked Oats
1oz coriander
1oz grains of paradise
4oz?! juniper berries

Possible substitutions there might be going with unmalted wheat and/or oats. And then a decoction, as I'm sure early malts were not all that well modified.

So we would be looking at something like 1.076 for a 5gallon beer with 75% eff, but in the tradition of sahti, I'm not going to be boiling this at all. So the OG will be lower... Mash, sparge, collect, cool and pitch. As such, I'm planning on having some sort of funk going on and it's damn cold here right now, so there won't be as many nasties in the air, but at the very least I would expect some lactobacillus to take hold for a little bit. As for other yeast, I'm pretty sure I'll use a baker's yeast for this, but a german hefe fermented on the high side(75+) seems appropriate as well.

I'll be adding some amount of juniper berries to the mash, I haven't decided on how much yet, but from what I've read thus far it should probably be a fair amount. I'm thinking about 4oz smashed up and thrown in the mash. Also as I said above if I can find some juniper twigs, I'll throw those in below my false bottom as to simulate using them to filter the wort through the mash. This is supposed to also add a slight resiny flavor that the berries alone won't.

As for the coriander and seeds of paradise, I thought they would compliment this overall taste well, along with the whole spicing this thing trend. Some star anise(very subtle) might also be appropriate... not sure on that one yet though. Everything of coarse thrown in the mash.

I've seen smoked and even possibly peated malt would be appropriate, but as I don't like the flavor either of these lend, nor do I think they will blend well with everything else going on, I'm not going to use them.

I'll have a carboy opening up in about a week so I'll be tweaking with ideas until then. But this will be brewed.

Here's some of the stuff I referenced in case anyone cares:
http://www.beerhunter.com/documents/19133-000794.html
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/style/148
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/forget-whiskey-gin-ale-72356/
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f13/traditional-nordic-style-beer-69483/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahti
http://www2.parc.com/emdl/members/apte/flemishredale.shtml
 
Brewed this up last night. Changes to the recipe was no oats, 1oz juniper and 2gm paradise seeds not 1oz.

It's fermenting like crazy now.
 
Well, since you've already brewed my suggestion is moot: don't waste the time or resources! I tried one at a beer festival...I think sucking on a sappy pine branch is the best way to describe the painful experience of a sahti. :barf:
 
Kegged tonight. Soured up very nicely. Not harsh, not overwhelming. Coriander and paradise came through, but I can't find the juniper. Have to up that a lot next time, or maybe dryhop some.

Does has some "off" flavor that I can't identify. I'm sure it will come to me, but it is a bit funky as would be expected, but not overly so. It never threw up a pelicile so I don't think it was too infected. Something was in there aside from sach and lacto though.
 
This post is way old, but I thought I would ask if you have thought about brewing another Sahti. Did you enjoy your first one at all or was it more of a bust? I am thinking about trying to hybrid this style with some kind of American ale.

Thanks for the extra links, they will be very useful.
 

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