Must fight the urge to be a beer snob....

[Ostomo517]

I was at a fantastic beer bar on a friday night, and found myself surrounded by people drinking miller ultra.

They had Schlafly extra stout on TAP.(just 1 example of something FANTASTIC that I seldom see) and 13 or 14 other fantastic beers on tap, including 2 true cask ales.

I did not chastise anyone, but it did make me feel slightly nauseated.

Do I need to de snob a bit?

Holy cow thats almost a
.... Are we gonna ignore the big pink elephant in the room people!?

 

[cheezydemon3]

Holy cow thats almost a
.... Are we gonna ignore the big pink elephant in the room people!?

right? But I let it ruin my time just a little......honestly the WAY too loud canned music might have contributed.

I am just wondering if I care a little TOO much. I had to ease back on college basketball when it would make or break my weekend.

 

[jglazer]

You also have to remember that not everyone is out drinking beer because they like the taste of beer. Some people are out just taking an edge off the day or with friends or want to watch the game at a bar vs in their home...

Its not always about the beer, sometimes you just end up somewhere like the only brewpub in town and you're killing time...unless provoked, keep your mouth closed and mind your own business

 

[winenewb172]

Like I said I didn't say anything to the guy. For one SWAMBO would never let me live it down and for two not long ago I didn't even drink beer. But that's because I'd never had good beer. And to the guy that said the whole " I can't drink that crap". Just suddenly came out in the story, that was in my second post. The post was just as much about me wanting to ask for ingredient details of their beers as it was the guy drinking miller light. I still stand by my point of if you wanna drink bmc don't go to a place like that if you don't wanna catch some ribbing for it. But it's a free country and you're free to drink what you want. But I'm free to my opinion

 

[Stauffbier]

I keep my snobbery in check by drinking PBR this time of year!

 

[Double_D]

I keep my snobbery in check by drinking PBR this time of year!

I keep mine in check by driving all over vegas trying to find Lone Star. That stuff is hard to find out here!

 

[stamandster]

Hey, thousands of people this weekend are going to be flipping burgers 20 times, squeezing all the fat out with the spatula, and serving a dried out puck of meat. Then drink it along with their BMC Light.

Doesn't make it delicious. It isn't snobbery, it's education.

That's not entirely true

http://aht.seriouseats.com/archives/2012/09/the-burger-lab-smashed-burgers-vs-smashing-burgers.html
http://aht.seriouseats.com/archives...s-should-you-flip-a-burger-while-cooking.html

 

[ktblunden]

Like I said I didn't say anything to the guy. For one SWAMBO would never let me live it down and for two not long ago I didn't even drink beer. But that's because I'd never had good beer. And to the guy that said the whole " I can't drink that crap". Just suddenly came out in the story, that was in my second post. The post was just as much about me wanting to ask for ingredient details of their beers as it was the guy drinking miller light. I still stand by my point of if you wanna drink bmc don't go to a place like that if you don't wanna catch some ribbing for it. But it's a free country and you're free to drink what you want. But I'm free to my opinion

Likewise someone could say that if the brewery offers BMC alongside their beers they aren't too concerned about it and you really shouldn't worry about it. You're getting mad at the guy for ordering a product they sell. That's kind of ridiculous. If they only wanted people ordering their beers they wouldn't offer other beers.

 

[mot]

Likewise someone could say that if the brewery offers BMC alongside their beers they aren't too concerned about it and you really shouldn't worry about it. You're getting mad at the guy for ordering a product they sell. That's kind of ridiculous. If they only wanted people ordering their beers they wouldn't offer other beers.

+1
I would be questioning the brew pub more than anything
I have never seen a brew pub offer Millet Lite...not even a decent beer bar even offer it.

I have heard pople ask for certain lite stuff at brew pubs and good beer bars, the server points them to the light blonde ale or pilsner they have on tap and they always order it. Never seen anyone not order a beer because they didnt have lite whatever

 

[ktblunden]

+1
I would be questioning the brew pub more than anything
I have never seen a brew pub offer Millet Lite...not even a decent beer bar even offer it.

I have heard pople ask for certain lite stuff at brew pubs and good beer bars, the server points them to the light blonde ale or pilsner they have on tap and they always order it. Never seen anyone not order a beer because they didnt have lite whatever

I've seen a couple that offered BMC and in each case I should have bypassed the "house beers" altogether. I put that in quotes because both "breweries" I've been to that had BMC did not brew their own beer, they had it contract brewed. It was also not very good.

 

[aubiecat]

I keep my snobbery in check by drinking PBR this time of year!

At least you qualify to be a hipster now.

 

[winenewb172]

I never said I was mad first off. And secondly is it outrageous that Mexican and Chinese restaurants serve a few American food items? No there's always that one person that doesn't like it but his whole family does so they have an option for him. Again not mad at all but I've never seen a person walk into a Mexican restaurant alone and order chicken strips or a cheeseburger but I have an aunt who gets one when we go there for my grandmas birthday because she doesn't like Mexican food. I think it would be silly for her to stop in there and grab a cheeseburger any other time. I wouldn't be mad if she did just confused. By all means if you wanna pay more for bmc at the brewpub than you would at the bar next door go ahead it doesn't hurt my feelings it's just odd to me.

 

[Stauffbier]

At least you qualify to be a hipster now.

I'll take that, since it's likely my only qualification for being hip these days! :fro:

 

[Stauffbier]

I never said I was mad first off. And secondly is it outrageous that Mexican and Chinese restaurants serve a few American food items? No there's always that one person that doesn't like it but his whole family does so they have an option for him. Again not mad at all but I've never seen a person walk into a Mexican restaurant alone and order chicken strips or a cheeseburger but I have an aunt who gets one when we go there for my grandmas birthday because she doesn't like Mexican food. I think it would be silly for her to stop in there and grab a cheeseburger any other time. I wouldn't be mad if she did just confused. By all means if you wanna pay more for bmc at the brewpub than you would at the bar next door go ahead it doesn't hurt my feelings it's just odd to me.

I have a friend that goes to a local Mexican place and orders cheeseburgers alone all the time. The reason being that they make a really good cheeseburger.

 

[Fordmi]

Sometimes I find it tough not to be snobby, even when I'm the type of person who really will drink almost any beer. Some people just don't want/care to drink craft or homebrew. I brought a good amount of my homebrew to a party on Sunday and ended up taking more than half of it back home with me while 30s of Natty Light and Bud Light were consumed.

To each their own. They had their Natty and I enjoyed the homebrew with a select few.

 

[hunter_le five]

A couple at the pub told me to shut up after I scolded them on the nature of making Pilsners. I can't stand the folks at Lagunitas claiming to brew a Czech style pilsner. It's nothing like a real pilsner.

Wow, I probably would've told you to shut up too. People in bars generally don't appreciate being "scolded" over their beverage choices....

 

[winenewb172]

I have a friend that goes to a local Mexican place and orders cheeseburgers alone all the time. The reason being that they make a really good cheeseburger.

Well I can see that I guess but the burger they serve at our local place is pretty crappy.

 

[boswell]

These threads are always dumb.

 

[Stauffbier]

These threads are always dumb.

And yet you felt the compelling need to post in it!

Getting back on topic....

I don't hate BMC or BMC drinkers. To each his own. The way I look at it; The more people that discover craft beer/the harder it will be to come by the rare stuff. It's already in enough demand as it is.

Am I advocating a secret society of craft beer drinkers?! Why yes! Yes I am!

 

[boswell]

As a lifelong bartender/server/hospitality employee/home brewer/beer drinker, I bring a unique viewpoint to these discussions. My point stands. Don't thrust your likes/dislikes upon other patrons or the staff. Drink your beer, tip well, leave happy. No sense in giving advice when not asked for. Just because you know what Malto-dextrine is, doesn't mean that every server should. Leave the suggestions to the bartender serving it.

As an aside, showing your depth of knowledge by attempting to 'out-do' the bartender in the knowledge department also goes down as a bitter pill among those in the 'business'.

 

[winenewb172]

As a lifelong bartender/server/hospitality employee/home brewer/beer drinker, I bring a unique viewpoint to these discussions. My point stands. Don't thrust your likes/dislikes upon other patrons or the staff. Drink your beer, tip well, leave happy. No sense in giving advice when not asked for. Just because you know what Malto-dextrine is, doesn't mean that every server should. Leave the suggestions to the bartender serving it.

Which is precisely why I didn't say a word. On an off note is it rude to ask for recipe advice at a place like that because their brown ale is wonderful and I'd love to make something close to it

 

[boswell]

At the brewpub where I worked the brewer would readily give you his recipes. I haven't worked at all of them, but I 'ass-u-me' most brewers would share any recipe within reason. I'm sure some would hold back specifics regarding special release beers or perhaps some signature release, but even then, brewers in general seem to be a sharing sort. I would ask, maybe bring him/her a homebrew and you may be surprised with some free yeast.

 

[CreamyGoodness]

Give the OP a break.

When someone says something as if they are an authority and they are obviously wrong, its hard to bite one's tongue. I praise his restraint. Now, if the guy off-handedly said "I like miller light because its triple hopped" I think saying "hey have you had the third beer down on the chalkboard? Personally I like it even better than miller light because..." assuming the guy is giving off the vibe he wants to chat about beer. Otherwise I would leave him alone.

Sometimes when my wife is talking with a stranger and she tells them she works with cheese she will get some variation of "oh I like cheese, I just dont like goat cheese". Its hard to NOT respond to something like that.

 

[WesleyS]

Sometimes when my wife is talking with a stranger and she tells them she works with cheese she will get some variation of "oh I like cheese, I just dont like goat cheese". Its hard to NOT respond to something like that.

Haha! That would be me. Well, except I wouldn't just come out and say it as the first thing in the discussion. I love cheese, but I absolutely hate goat cheese. I have yet to try a goat cheese that doesn't taste and/or smell like a goat. I don't care for that.
By the way Creamy, if you have any suggestions that might change my mind about goat cheese, I'm usually up for trying anything.

 

[winenewb172]

Haha! That would be me. Well, except I wouldn't just come out and say it as the first thing in the discussion. I love cheese, but I absolutely hate goat cheese. I have yet to try a goat cheese that doesn't taste and/or smell like a goat. I don't care for that.
By the way Creamy, if you have any suggestions that might change my mind about goat cheese, I'm usually up for trying anything.

I love all cheese!

 

[CreamyGoodness]

From my wife "You may want to start with a mixed milk like La Tur or Cremont. If that goes well- goat log and beets. The mellowness of the beets soothes the tartness that goat-haters fear."

By the way, I would sit in a room all alone with La Tur OR Cremont and a baguette and eat both until I hate myself.

 

[Ostomo517]

From my wife "You may want to start with a mixed milk like La Tur or Cremont. If that goes well- goat log and beets. The mellowness of the beets soothes the tartness that goat-haters fear."

By the way, I would sit in a room all alone with La Tur OR Cremont and a baguette and eat both until I hate myself.

Yes please

 

[WesleyS]

From my wife "You may want to start with a mixed milk like La Tur or Cremont. If that goes well- goat log and beets. The mellowness of the beets soothes the tartness that goat-haters fear."

By the way, I would sit in a room all alone with La Tur OR Cremont and a baguette and eat both until I hate myself.

Thanks, I'll pick some up and let you know how it goes.

 

[Cyclman]

That's not entirely true

http://aht.seriouseats.com/archives/2012/09/the-burger-lab-smashed-burgers-vs-smashing-burgers.html
http://aht.seriouseats.com/archives...s-should-you-flip-a-burger-while-cooking.html

I love the website referral, very interesting. I was referring to smashing on the grill, which is how most burger killers squeeze the good stuff out of their burgers.

The flipping part shocks me, it is certainly against the "pro advice." I wonder if you did it how most pro chefs cook meat- brown each side, then finish off the direct heat in an oven, if that'd be even better.

Either way, bad burgers, or any burgers with BMC are just a shame, there are so many better options from the Craft world. I am just wondering how a great burger with an Imperial Pilsner would be? Ooooooh. Sounds good.

 

[winenewb172]

A good burger and a nice craft brew is pretty much my Friday tradition, except it ends up being a whole bunch of craft beers