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Munich Malt as Base Grain (Diastatic Power)

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WLP838 has an attenuation range of 68-76% according to White Labs. By my calculations, 76% would be 1.0125, and 68% is 1.0165. So 1.012 would be at the extreme limit of the attenuation you can expect from this yeast. Here's the math:

OG: 1.052 = 52 GU
(52-21)/52 = .596 = 60% attenuation at 1.021
(52-16)/52 = .692 = 69% attenuation at 1.016
(52-12)/52 = .769 = 77% attenuation at 1.012

The Schwarzbier I repitched this yeast from stopped at 1.018, with an OG of around 1.052, with 85% pilsner malt. So with my process it's pretty much on par.
 
WLP838 has an attenuation range of 68-76% according to White Labs. By my calculations, 76% would be 1.0125, and 68% is 1.0165. So 1.012 would be at the extreme limit of the attenuation you can expect from this yeast. Here's the math:

OG: 1.052 = 52 GU
(52-21)/52 = .596 = 60% attenuation at 1.021
(52-16)/52 = .692 = 69% attenuation at 1.016
(52-12)/52 = .769 = 77% attenuation at 1.012

The Schwarzbier I repitched this yeast from stopped at 1.018, with an OG of around 1.052, with 85% pilsner malt. So with my process it's pretty much on par.

Well, you must like your lagers a lot sweeter than I do, with ones that are 1.050s, I am looking for at least 1.014 or under...

Whatever you like is cool, no doubt, but the BJCP guidelines say FG: 1.008 – 1.012 for Schwarzbier and FG: 1.010 – 1.016 for Dunkel--just saying it may be something to look into, given the ranges that were agreed upon by folks that know something about beer.
 
Oh, you were referring to the BJCP attenuation range, not the yeast's. That makes more sense.

I would like to get them drier, but I'm not sure this yeast is the one for the job. My Schwarzbier is definitely not quite to style.
 
For our May meeting, our club is making up a bunch of beers with a single malt in each one. We all used the same hop addition and the same yeast (supplied by a local brewery). This will allow us to taste the difference between the different malts. We'll have 8 or 9 kegs for the tasting on the 21st.

Anyhow, I used Best Malz Munich malt for my contribution. Original Gravity was 1.050 and mine fermented down to 1.011 for 78% attenuation. It's clear that this malt has enough diastatic power to convert itself.
 
I did end up brewing this with Munich as the base (I think I used 10 or 11 lbs). I threw in a little crystal 40, and I think a touch of Special B. OG was around 1.062 and FG was about 1.012 IIRC. It's been kegged for a few weeks and it's into the rotation but I probably won't get to it for another month or two.
 
My dunkel made it down to 1.017 after another week. A little higher than I'd like, but it tastes really nice - "liquid bread" is a great description.

Next time I used WLP838 (for anything) I'm going to mash at 148 - with my system that may be what it takes to dry it out.
 
I made a Munich dunkel over the winter with 65% Munich malt, 32% Vienna and 3% Carafa I. Used a 2 qt wyeast 2308 starter and it finished at 1.013. It is VERY delicious! Next time I'm going to use midnight wheat instead of Carafa I and do a glyco-protein rest at 162* at the end of the mash for foam stability.
 
I did end up brewing this with Munich as the base (I think I used 10 or 11 lbs). I threw in a little crystal 40, and I think a touch of Special B. OG was around 1.062 and FG was about 1.012 IIRC. It's been kegged for a few weeks and it's into the rotation but I probably won't get to it for another month or two.

I'm correct in assuming you used the Canada Malting Munich, right?

Thanks!
 
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