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Guy was out working on our well this week, and my wife gave him a session saison while he worked. He said it "ain't bad, tastes like Budweiser".

I'm pretty sure he thought that was a compliment. I'm sure he was thinking, "These homebrew Budweisers sure taste weird as hell, but I'll say something nice." Anyway, I told him there's saaz in it, and that's often used in lagers, so I complimented him on his sensitive palette. Felt pretty charitable.
 
Guy was out working on our well this week, and my wife gave him a session saison while he worked. He said it "ain't bad, tastes like Budweiser".

I'm pretty sure he thought that was a compliment. I'm sure he was thinking, "These homebrew Budweisers sure taste weird as hell, but I'll say something nice." Anyway, I told him there's saaz in it, and that's often used in lagers, so I complimented him on his sensitive palette. Felt pretty charitable.

I think for a lot of the uninitiated they look at Budweiser as a good beer, so when they say that they think they're really complimenting you.

One of my best friends isn't into beer at all (I keep bud light in the fridge for him) always says my homebrew is "like Sam Adam's" lol
 
This one from the BMC ppl kinda makes me laugh

(Homebrew club contest winning beer)

Me: "Hey, how you like it?"
BMC friend: "Oh it's really good!"

Minutes later I find the half full bottle hidden out off to the side and there they are with a miller light...




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This one from the BMC ppl kinda makes me laugh

(Homebrew club contest winning beer)

Me: "Hey, how you like it?"
BMC friend: "Oh it's really good!"

Minutes later I find the half full bottle hidden out off to the side and there they are with a miller light...




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Why were they drinking it out of the bottle?
 
This one from the BMC ppl kinda makes me laugh

(Homebrew club contest winning beer)

Me: "Hey, how you like it?"
BMC friend: "Oh it's really good!"

Minutes later I find the half full bottle hidden out off to the side and there they are with a miller light...

This would aggravate me to no end. When I ask an opinion of somebody I genuinely want an opinion. Well actually this is the case for asking anybody anything. I would rather have somebody tell me that they didn't really enjoy something or that it wasn't to their preference as compared to the pat on the back "good job" when they're not enjoying it. How are we as brewers (or anybody as anything) supposed to improve if the feedback we get is false?

Real life example: Brewed up my first IPA. Didn't look up any recipes for it, looked at the BJCP guidelines, my efficiency, some IBU calculators and off to the races! Ended up at 6.5%, 55-60 IBU, a beautiful darker than amber but not quite red. The first person I shared with (coworker who often gets a 6 pack) sent 5 back the next day. I later got one "I like it" two "awesome"s and one "Absolutely divine." No problems with getting those 5 back, more for the rest of us. Yet if it had of been murdered in the interests of not hurting my feelings, we'd all be shedding tears.
 
This would aggravate me to no end. When I ask an opinion of somebody I genuinely want an opinion. Well actually this is the case for asking anybody anything. I would rather have somebody tell me that they didn't really enjoy something or that it wasn't to their preference as compared to the pat on the back "good job" when they're not enjoying it. How are we as brewers (or anybody as anything) supposed to improve if the feedback we get is false?



Real life example: Brewed up my first IPA. Didn't look up any recipes for it, looked at the BJCP guidelines, my efficiency, some IBU calculators and off to the races! Ended up at 6.5%, 55-60 IBU, a beautiful darker than amber but not quite red. The first person I shared with (coworker who often gets a 6 pack) sent 5 back the next day. I later got one "I like it" two "awesome"s and one "Absolutely divine." No problems with getting those 5 back, more for the rest of us. Yet if it had of been murdered in the interests of not hurting my feelings, we'd all be shedding tears.

Yeah... That crap pisses me off. If I ask how it is, I want to know what you think. Not what you think I want to hear. Just like the "this tastes just like Budweiser" remark.
For gods sake don't worry about my feelings! Haha :beard:





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Actually, when you think about it, your buddy was being polite. He didnt find the homebrew to his taste, so he told a white lie and tried to hide the bottle.
 
I've almost given up on talking to people about homebrew. I find that I'm not very patient any more, sometimes when they ask how its made I say "magic", when they ask what it tastes like, I say "beer" If they ask for a beer, "I'm fresh out, starting a new batch tomorrow". I know a few folks who really appreciate beer and I know what they like, and those are the ones who get my homebrew when I'm giving it away. If you can't tell me a style that you like, or you only like miller or whatever, then I'm not wasting my brew on you. It's too much work to be guzzled from the bottle and poured down the drain because it wasn't what you where expecting
 
I try to make enough beer I'm have no compunction with giving it to people who won't appreciate it. A lot of people don't know what they like until they try it.
 
I brought a 2-liter each of dunkelweizen and belgian blond (thanks, carbonater caps) to a work thing, and the 70yo guy who works the phones wouldn't stop raving about it. Probably the first time he's had a non-BMC. Of course the rest of the time I was explaining to people about belgian yeasts (no, there are no spices, that's the yeast) and why no, it doesn't really taste much like a blue moon...

But they killed it before they did the fat tire, so I'm chalking it as a win.
 
So I had one the other day. My wife gave one of her coworkers husband some of my homebrews. When I ran into him he told me they were really good then said "I just wanted to thank you for not making it weird. Seems like homebrewers are always putting weird stuff in their beer."

Now I don't know this guy very well, but I am willing to bet his experience with drinking homebrew is limited to what my wife has given him of mine and that is probably it. Maybe he had a buddy making some 'experimental' brews but I doubt he has much exposure to the homebrew community and instead was basing his judgement of homebrew based on stigma.

I just hate that most people think homebrewers are like that dude from the BW3 commercial.
 
So I had one the other day. My wife gave one of her coworkers husband some of my homebrews. When I ran into him he told me they were really good then said "I just wanted to thank you for not making it weird. Seems like homebrewers are always putting weird stuff in their beer."

Now I don't know this guy very well, but I am willing to bet his experience with drinking homebrew is limited to what my wife has given him of mine and that is probably it. Maybe he had a buddy making some 'experimental' brews but I doubt he has much exposure to the homebrew community and instead was basing his judgement of homebrew based on stigma.

I just hate that most people think homebrewers are like that dude from the BW3 commercial.

I've gotten that one before too. Some people are just weirded out at the prospect of there being fruit, spices, or other adjuncts in their beer (without even trying it). Sometimes I'll just tell them the style at first, then if they notice other flavors, then I'll elaborate on the ingredients.

Maybe that's dishonest, but sometimes people need to sample something with no preconceptions to cloud their judgment.
 
I don't know, man, I know a guy who mostly does kit brews and isn't that experienced, but when he decides to go off kits he's always making some kind of peanut butter cocoa caramel banana bacon stout. Just pouring crap from his pantry into his kettle. And he's always like, "I don't know why, but my last beer didn't turn out so great."

But as I said I also had trouble convincing someone there wasn't any kind of spice in my beer, that it's just belgian yeast character--so I think some people have other misconceptions about how much you can do to make two beers different without putting tamarind and paprika and clove in it or something. Amateur "specialty beers" are usually bad.
 
Great Thread...

It invokes my experiences with some people (including family members!) who every time I bring a six pack or two will sip a little and make a scrunched up face and try to get a rise out of me saying it's not that good.

Then I will offer the exact same beer to others, and they quiz me on when I'm planning to go into business!

It makes me really appreciate the time spent with other home brewers who understand the craft, and the commitment, and the joy of making beautiful beer. It's an art.
 
I don't know, man, I know a guy who mostly does kit brews and isn't that experienced, but when he decides to go off kits he's always making some kind of peanut butter cocoa caramel banana bacon stout. Just pouring crap from his pantry into his kettle. And he's always like, "I don't know why, but my last beer didn't turn out so great."

But as I said I also had trouble convincing someone there wasn't any kind of spice in my beer, that it's just belgian yeast character--so I think some people have other misconceptions about how much you can do to make two beers different without putting tamarind and paprika and clove in it or something. Amateur "specialty beers" are usually bad.

I think I know that guy too :)

I don't do too many recipes with experimental ingredients, but they're usually batches that I just plan on drinking myself or sharing with my few friends that are prepared for such things. That way, the unconverted don't have some off-the-wall brew as their first foray into homebrew and believe that the "bratwurst beer" commercial is true.
 
So I had one the other day. My wife gave one of her coworkers husband some of my homebrews. When I ran into him he told me they were really good then said "I just wanted to thank you for not making it weird. Seems like homebrewers are always putting weird stuff in their beer."

Now I don't know this guy very well, but I am willing to bet his experience with drinking homebrew is limited to what my wife has given him of mine and that is probably it. Maybe he had a buddy making some 'experimental' brews but I doubt he has much exposure to the homebrew community and instead was basing his judgement of homebrew based on stigma.

I just hate that most people think homebrewers are like that dude from the BW3 commercial.

Let's make sure we understand... someone liked your beer, but said other homebrewers do weird things. You *assume* he doesn't know what he's talking about and is just making something up.

How is that assumption (that he doesn't know what he's talking about) any different from the random people who make assumptions about home brew (like that it's bad)?

Even without "exposure to the homebrew community" (and excuse me, I just puked a little), maybe he's seen Brew Dogs. There are enough people out there who use odd ingredients that he's not exactly wrong.

Ok, done with my rant!
 
My sister once said that all homebrew she has had has that "homebrew taste." She did go on to say that mine didn't, so I've got that going for me I guess. :)
 
That's okay. My sister says they all taste the same... Ranging from lighter stouts to APA's


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My sister says they all taste the same... Ranging from lighter stouts to APA's


A couple years ago I tried New Belgium's Lips of Faith Abbey Grand Cru and realized that there was a certain taste in every beer I'd ever had. I didn't realize it was there until I tried the Cru and that taste wasn't there.
 
That's okay. My sister says they all taste the same... Ranging from lighter stouts to APA's


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My wife says the same. I let her try something I think she might like, perhaps a very chocolate stout, or something fruity (sorry here is my man card for trying something fruity). And her response is always the same..."Taste like beer"
 
A couple years ago I tried New Belgium's Lips of Faith Abbey Grand Cru and realized that there was a certain taste in every beer I'd ever had. I didn't realize it was there until I tried the Cru and that taste wasn't there.


Yeah I mean I have an affinity towards bitter and usually dry. But as for same taste in every beer, I'm not sure I follow "the taste".


My wife says the same. I let her try something I think she might like, perhaps a very chocolate stout, or something fruity (sorry here is my man card for trying something fruity). And her response is always the same..."Taste like beer"


Yeah. It irks me to no end. I'm always like you don't taste the roast, the chocolate, the coffee? "Nope, just beer" :smack:


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Well here in Michigan craft breweries are nearly as plentiful as bars in some cities. So we have the perk of having a fairly knowledgeable beer public. The most annoying thing is when they want either some of my brew and dont/will not come to my house to enjoy it with me or hey you should make (insert style here) I love that stuff!
 
My wife says the same. I let her try something I think she might like, perhaps a very chocolate stout, or something fruity (sorry here is my man card for trying something fruity). And her response is always the same..."Taste like beer"

I am a Lucky man and have converted the SWMBO into a Beer Junkie like myself. She loves the stuff. So much I am actually making a 5 gal batch of Irish Stout for her just so I can brew lol :off: I know sorry. But yeah the whole It taste like beer makes me Angry. My brother says the same thing.
 
I get the "It tastes like beer" response from my wife too, and it is annoying. But to be fair, if someone handed me a glass of wine and asked for my opinion on it, I'm not sure I could do much better.
 
My wife says the same. I let her try something I think she might like, perhaps a very chocolate stout, or something fruity (sorry here is my man card for trying something fruity). And her response is always the same..."Taste like beer"

A while back I made my wife a perfect mint julep using good bourbon, fresh-picked mint leaves muddled in sugar, thoroughly crushed ice, good water, frosted glass and a mint sprig garnish.

Her response? "It's not bad, but I can still taste the whiskey." :smack:
 
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