Mason / Picante / Salsa JARS for BOTTLING....

[grndslm]

Tattler re-usable lids...

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0051PDXCQ/?tag=skimlinks_replacement-20

 

[carlisle_bob]

We've got enough Grolsch bottles to handle three 5-gallon batches, but I think the brown 22-oz bombers will taste better, so that's what we've been using.

Even the swing-tops need to have their gaskets replaced.

Hi

Mason jar lids aren't forever, salsa jar lids even less so. My suspicion is that a Grolsch gasket will out-last either one by a significant margin.

Bob

 

[Spicemon1972]

Here's an idea - do it and stop talking about it. Why not prove your point with a case study, that's what a scientific minded person would do. Make a 5 gallon batch, split it into 5 one gallon batches. Use one batch as a control group in standard 22 or 12 ounce bottles and prime with a standard amount of sugar. Use the other 4 gallons and bottle into mason jars at different priming levels, including one batch at the same level as your control group and successive gallons with gradiently more priming sugar. Mark them carefully and take pictures, notes etc. Condition all the batches at exactly the same temperature for the same amount of time. Then after several weeks, crack one of each batch open and compare the end product.
This way will answer the questions raised by everyone on this thread. Will mason jars hold carbonation, are they more prone to bottle bombs and everything else. You could do the same with salsa jars, mayonnaise jars or whatever other vessel you would like to test, just make sure to document your experiment and post back with your results. I am sure that everyone would be interested in the outcome.
If I were considering using other containers, which I am not, this is what I would do.

 

[Yooper]

We've got enough Grolsch bottles to handle three 5-gallon batches, but I think the brown 22-oz bombers will taste better, so that's what we've been using.

Even the swing-tops need to have their gaskets replaced.

Oh, boy, I hate to ask but I just have to know- why would 22 oz bombers taste better than 16 ounce bottles?

And you're right- those gaskets aren't "forever". I've only been using the same ones for 6 years. I might need a new one in the next 5-6 years, I'd imagine.

 

[carlisle_bob]

Oh, boy, I hate to ask but I just have to know- why would 22 oz bombers taste better than 16 ounce bottles?

And you're right- those gaskets aren't "forever". I've only been using the same ones for 6 years. I might need a new one in the next 5-6 years, I'd imagine.

Hi

22 ounces *always* tastes better, weather it's in one bottle or six...

Bob

 

[carlisle_bob]

We've got enough Grolsch bottles to handle three 5-gallon batches, but I think the brown 22-oz bombers will taste better, so that's what we've been using.....

Hi

If size is the issue, you can get swing tops up into at least the 64 ounce region.

Bob

 

[Airborneguy]

This is whole thread has to be a joke.

 

[dwarven_stout]

What a silly little boy.

 

[JuanMoore]

We've got enough Grolsch bottles to handle three 5-gallon batches, but I think the brown 22-oz bombers will taste better, so that's what we've been using.

The only reason it would taste better is because the green glass is more likely to lead to skunking, but you're talking about using clear glass which is even worse. You almost had me thinking you weren't a troll, but now you're just being ridiculous.

Even the swing-tops need to have their gaskets replaced.

Yep, once every 5-10 years depending on use, which I bet is longer than your reusable mason jar lids and gaskets last. The rings for the mason jars will also need to be replaced periodically, unlike the top of a swingtop bottle. I also wonder why you'd use a large plastic lid after claiming earlier that plastic doesn't work for long term storage.

 

[Revvy]

He's probably thinking that brown bottles are less apt to skunk than anything clear....But if one protects the clear bottles from light, then it really doesn't matter. At least what I think he's probably saying...

 

[JuanMoore]

He's probably thinking that brown bottles are less apt to skunk than anything clear....But if one protects the clear bottles from light, then it really doesn't matter. At least what I think he's probably saying...

I'm guessing that was his reason for not wanting to use the green grolsch bottles he already has, and now he wants to spend money to use clear jars.

 

[JoeBronco]

Really though? Have you not figured it out yet? Look at the last few threads this guy has posted... He's a troll and im 75% sure its "takesomeadvice" from Canada. He asks a question then argues that he is right even when science/common knowledge says otherwise.

TROLL!

Re-using yeast for different recipes has effect on taste??

How bad would ig be if i switched from 5 gal to 10 gal without adding more LME?

Should I shake my bottles immediately after batch priming??

Does anyone WHIRLPOOL when transferring to secondary???

 

[Obliviousbrew]

I've said it in another of his posts stop paying attention to this guy... don't feed the troll... and if he is not takesomeadvice he is related to him...

 

[grndslm]

Firstly.....

When are the moderators going to clean this thread up???

How in the heck are you supposed to discuss something when everybody labels people with questions to be trolls??? Is it really unbelievable that somebody asks questions to know the truth??

The truth is that mason jars have worked 100% for one member. That is unbelievable for the other 99% of people here.

Why bother? Well... if I see some jars, I would like to know whether they are worth salvaging. Is that so hard to believe, as well??

I would like to know whether picante/salsa jars work. Is this also outside the stretch of your imaginations?? I would like to know THE LIMITS of bottling.

Ocean Spray bottles work, and I think these Powerade bottles might be working, but they've got 2 more weeks to go. I'm just done with plastic.

And, to the one who criticized me for linking to plastic lids. Get real. After you sanitize your bottles, so you sanitize the floors, since the bottles will be touching it?? No... the beer doesn't come into contact with the outside of the bottle, esp. on the bottom. Same concept, don't you think?? The plastic ain't touchin' the beer if the only plastic is the lid.

I didn't think this would actually work out... but if I could get enough mason jars, and those plastic lids.... perhaps a non-leeching, glass container with 100% reusable lid can be had.

Oh... please don't feed the trolls. Everybody must love grolsch bottles and rubber gaskets. They MUST!! Or aluminum!! Or 2-liter bottles!! Those are the only options.

Mason jars WILL NOT WORK!!! It has been proven by the forefathers of brewing, and it cannot be done today.

Please, mods... clean this thread like I asked you to the first 10 times. This is appalling. Is it REALLY necessary for people to go off-topic and STAY off-topic without a moderator to clean things up??

 

[Yuri_Rage]

Ok, here's your cleanup - we're just gonna close it. Some of the ideas set forth are dangerous, others absurd. Regardless of the facts and opinions, the thread has degenerated into namecalling and uselessness - a prime trigger for thread closure.