Man Travels Through Time

[Coastarine]

I AM FROM THE FUTURE. *fires automatic weapon* IN THE FUTURE THERE IS A WAR BETWEEN THE HUMANS AND THE ROBOTS. TAKE OFF YOUR PANTS! I AM FROM THE FUTURE.

I love reno 911

HAH!

The way I see it, going back in time will never be possible, otherwise we would have met some future people by now. Think about it.

Unless that's where orfy's come from.

 

[WheeledGoat]

I like your thinking, BUT:

I want to believe that we're smarter and wiser in the future - especially someone that would be bright enough to come up with a time-travel device... and they would anticipate the negative effect the mere knowledge of time-travel possibility would have (us researching it more dilligently once learning that it's possible, altering it's development, changing the time traveler's past).

So, even a semi-intelligent traveller wouldn't identify himself as such, and we would never know.

Personally, I love the idea of time travel.
But everyday common sense tells me it's impossible.
But from what little I know of physics & mathmatical theory (I'm an enthusiast, I read books and listen to Hawking's lectures, but I'm pretty dumb when you get down to it)... but from what I know, it's theoretically possible... I mean, time is simply the 4th dimension. It's our own perception of that 4th dimension that makes it different than up/down/left/right/in/out. String theory regards what we call time equally to what we call space.

As soon as we get our heads out of our asses and wrap our minds around what the universe is really about, I think we should be able to accomplish time travel.

EDIT: <thinking> hopefully i didn't get too deep and kill this thread... i hope there's some people out there with some ideas to counter mine...

 

[Tenchiro]

I like your thinking, BUT:

I want to believe that we're smarter and wiser in the future - especially someone that would be bright enough to come up with a time-travel device... and they would anticipate the negative effect the mere knowledge of time-travel possibility would have (us researching it more dilligently once learning that it's possible, altering it's development, changing the time traveler's past).

So, even a semi-intelligent traveller wouldn't identify himself as such, and we would never know.

Personally, I love the idea of time travel.
But everyday common sense tells me it's impossible.
But from what little I know of physics & mathmatical theory (I'm an enthusiast, I read books and listen to Hawking's lectures, but I'm pretty dumb when you get down to it)... but from what I know, it's theoretically possible... I mean, time is simply the 4th dimension. It's our own perception of that 4th dimension that makes it different than up/down/left/right/in/out. String theory regards what we call time equally to what we call space.

As soon as we get our heads out of our asses and wrap our minds around what the universe is really about, I think we should be able to accomplish time travel.

EDIT: <thinking> hopefully i didn't get too deep and kill this thread... i hope there's some people out there with some ideas to counter mine...

If you read David Deutch's theory on the multiverse and time travel, he has come up with an idea of how it is achievable within the laws of physics.

 

[leftyguitarjoe]

I'm a physics major, and THIS is impossible.

 

[BoxofRain]

crazy Norwegians

 

[mrfocus]

So his dad and him got the same tattoo (although his dad's is older thant his, because of the fading) and they filmed each other. Wow.

The bright light I'm putting down to hard drugs.

 

[GregR]

The really cool thing is the GPS satellites (well all satellites really) are actually traveling faster through time than we are on earth. The earths gravity slows time, and the farther you are from a gravity well or the faster you are going, the faster time travels for you.

wait, i thought the faster you went the slower time goes for you. as in, if you are approaching the speed of light, time for YOU moves very slowly compared to things moving at a much slower speed. could be wrong though . . .

 

[EvilTOJ]

That's right GregR, but if you're the one moving faster time doesn't appear to be moving slower, only to outside observers watching you. To you time still moves at the same pace.

 

[GregR]

yeah, it's all relative to the observer.

 

[Dilligaf]

Matching tatoos..... yep I'm convinced

 

[brauhaus]

So this man has a portal to the future under his sink? Right....

don't we all?

 

[Bourdon]

Best thread this week.

I have a time travel device in my bathroom. I sit down and am propelled to the future. A much smellier one.

 

[Joe C]

woohoo! I rule. My future self told me it was going to be an awesome thread.

 

[Orfy]

I'm travelling through time now. Or at least this message is. It's 19:27 NOW....

 

[VatorMan]

It doesn't surprise me at all. You ought to see where I can get from my wardrobe.


TL

truth. I can put on my magical leisure suit and I'm back to the 70's.:rockin:

 

[Laughing_Gnome_Invisible]

Failed thread!! This topic is just soooo next week! (Yawn)

 

[shecky]

Happy Thanksgiving everyone. The turkey is almost done here in the future.

 

[Homercidal]

Time travel is a very dangerous thing:IATT Log

 

[gratus fermentatio]

Think about it. If you could time travel into the future (and not end up drifting through space), would you tell the world or would you buy the 2015 sports almanac to bring back with you so you could start placing bets & winning millions? If you could time travel into the past, would you tell the world or would you invest in stocks, stash a few comics & brew lots of beer/wine/mead for serious aging? I'd be manipulating the past, present & future to my advantage & nobody would be the wiser for it. Regards, GF.

 

[cubbies]

Think about it. If you could time travel into the future (and not end up drifting through space), would you tell the world or would you buy the 2015 sports almanac to bring back with you so you could start placing bets & winning millions? If you could time travel into the past, would you tell the world or would you invest in stocks, stash a few comics & brew lots of beer/wine/mead for serious aging? I'd be manipulating the past, present & future to my advantage & nobody would be the wiser for it. Regards, GF.

Word. There is no doubt I would be all over this. I'll put $10,000 on the TB Rays making the 08 WS...how much do you think that would have made you if you put it down in March?

And waaaaayyyy

We have all know of the "dont mess with things in the past" theory, but how do we know that the future we have now didnt already include us going into the past and messing with something.

Try to wrap your brain around that!

 

[Bourdon]

How about this one.

You travel back in time and kill your grandparents before your parents are conceived. You would be a being without a beginning, and therefore no end, a God.

 

[Philip1993]

The really cool thing is the GPS satellites (well all satellites really) are actually traveling faster through time than we are on earth. The earths gravity slows time, and the farther you are from a gravity well or the faster you are going, the faster time travels for you.

True, but that specific case it's the speed of the satellite relative to earth that causes the time dilation.

 

[Joe C]

How about this one.

You travel back in time and kill your grandparents before your parents are conceived. You would be a being without a beginning, and therefore no end, a God.

No, because if that happened you wouldn't exist.

 

[Brew-Happy]

No, because if that happened you wouldn't exist.

And if you cease to exist how did you kill your grandparent. Hence the paradox issue. How could you exist long enough to kill the people that helped to cause your existance???

Too much brain work for a Friday:cross:

 

[Bourdon]

No, because if that happened you wouldn't exist.

But you did exist and caused the event that causes you to no longer exist.

Physically, you would continue to exist, as matter cannot be created or destroyed.

You would have no origin. Without a beginning there cannot be an end.

You would be immortal and perpetually stuck in a state of being which cannot be altered.

QED

 

[Philip1993]

Physically, you would continue to exist, as matter cannot be created or destroyed.

False. Energy cannot be created or destroyed. Matter can.

You would have no origin. Without a beginning there cannot be an end.

True to the first. The second is an assumption.

You would be immortal and perpetually stuck in a state of being which cannot be altered.

Big assumptions without causality. You could also become a lifeless piece of flesh. Your body would slowly disassociate back into dust. Hence, YOU would not exist as a person and your physical matter would remain.

And if you cease to exist how did you kill your grandparent. Hence the paradox issue. How could you exist long enough to kill the people that helped to cause your existance???

What about parallel existences?

 

[Laughing_Gnome_Invisible]

But you did exist and caused the event that causes you to no longer exist.

Physically, you would continue to exist, as matter cannot be created or destroyed.

You would have no origin. Without a beginning there cannot be an end.

You would be immortal and perpetually stuck in a state of being which cannot be altered.

QED

I quoted this post without reading it. Therefore, as I never read it, it does not exist in my own reality, but the fact that I quoted it means that it does exist in the forum! Would someone please quote this post so that I know I ever actually typed it, or if it was my imagination?

 

[Philip1993]

You would have no origin. Without a beginning there cannot be an end.

True to the first. The second is an assumption.

EDIT: On second thought, the first is an assumption as well. If you killed your grandparents it would mean they could not be your origin, not that you had no origin. You could just a likely have been born to the lady across town door. In which case, by killing your grandparents, you would at that moment have killed a stranger.

 

[Brew-Happy]

What about parallel existences?

This is what subscribe to when I want spend brain power on time travel. Instead of bouncing around in my timeline, I would be hopping around in time in a parallel universe.

The main issue I have with time travel is this:

IF you could go forward or back, you would be carrying your mass/matter into a time where the same matter exists. This would violate any understanding of duality in one spot. If I travel back, either my matter would exist at the same time with my past self's matter. If I travel back farther than my time here on earth, say 1million years, the matter would still exist, just not in the neat little package that makes me. The same paradox exist if you travel forward as well.

The whole argument that matter can't be created nor destroyed would be null and void the moment I tried to exist at the same time my matter would exist, ie doubling the matter that makes me me.


But given there is no proof of time travel the argument is moot. I question the idea of time travel given the ability of humans to destroy anything important or sacred. Which means someone would try to go back in time to destroy say one of the disciples, any record of Jesus, or any other means of destroying the form of Christianity we know today.

But hey TGIF and Happy Halloween!

 

[Philip1993]

The whole argument that matter can't be created nor destroyed would be null and void the moment I tried to exist at the same time my matter would exist

That argument should have been dispelled about 11th grade. Matter cna be destroyed and the equation E=mc^2 is the formula used to calculate the amount of energy produced from the total destruction of a given mass of "matter"

This would violate any understanding of duality in one spot.

Matter cannot exist in the same place, at the same time, and in the same quantum state. If they are in different states they can happily exist in the same place.