American Pale Ale Lake Walk Pale Ale

[korndog]

Its been 11 days in the fermenter and I tasted it. It is beyond belief delicious.. Dose this beer actually need dry hopping? It has aroma and taste now even when its young and green.

Yes, don't cheat yourself. Some people even double dry-hop it.

 

[Jolly McStanson]

Its now six days later and I'm putting the beer into the secondary and dry hopping. I tasted it again as well as my wine drinking mother and BMC brother. They loved it now and so do I. Its fruity with a little sweet going on. Lets see in another ten days dry hopping how it will taste.

 

[discgolfin]

Last time I brewed up a 10 gallon batch and kegged them for a party..gone that night....big hit..I was happy it was a big hit but was sad I couldn't even enjoy a few the next day. This week I plan to brew up 10 gallons for myself...

ok I will share it..I toasted my own malt this time..went 275 for 60min spraying it every 15 minutes and mixing.

I make a slight alteration to this recipe and use Summit at 60 and 20 min...I would imagine it is very close to the original.If you have not made this recipe yet..make it now..It is great..I usually try to make it every few months to keep it on tap..

J

 

[Jaybird]

Its been 11 days in the fermenter and I tasted it. It is beyond belief delicious.. Dose this beer actually need dry hopping? It has aroma and taste now even when its young and green.

I personally don't think this beer needs anything. I did an experiment and dry hopped 6 of my 12 gallon batch and I think the 6 that wasn't dry hopped was 10X better. JMHO
JJ

 

[Dude]

I'm starting to agree on the fact it doesn't need dry-hopping, but I'm dryhopping with pellets lately so it doesn't have the same effect IMHO.

I did some quality control tasting before I tapped this baby for the Super Bowl today...damn it is good. Need to bottle some up for Brewtopia so I can bring him a taste. Maybe it will sway him into letting me brew it large scale at Naked City sometime.

 

[korndog]

I'm starting to agree on the fact it doesn't need dry-hopping, but I'm dryhopping with pellets lately so it doesn't have the same effect IMHO.

I did some quality control tasting before I tapped this baby for the Super Bowl today...damn it is good. Need to bottle some up for Brewtopia so I can bring him a taste. Maybe it will sway him into letting me brew it large scale at Naked City sometime.

I'm definitely not there yet Dude. I have whole Simcoe this year and it is superb. For whatever it's worth, I am only doing 5-6 days dry hop now after a couple of grassy events with lighter ales. I think after the first pint, the dry hop addition is minimized, but in a competitive tasting environment, it is definitely an extra arrow in the quiver.

 

[Beerrific]

I bought the specialty grains yesterday to make another batch of this. Probably toast some grain today and brew next weekend.

I dry hopped last time, it was good, but I think it might push it up a notch to more of an IPA with that aroma. I am going to try it without the dry hop this time.

 

[discgolfin]

I could see where some would not dry hop. I just think the aroma is what makes this beer so amazing..So removing it is a hard call. I plan on going with .5 oz of both instead of a full oz to see what we get. My effeciency was a bit higher than usual for a 10 gallon batch and hit 1.06 OG but it went down to 1.012..

J

 

[McKBrew]

This will be my first 10G batch coming up once I upgrade my equipment in honor of my one year AG anniversary. Probably the only recipe I've followed verbatim from an HBT member, and worth every drop.

 

[MX1]

I have been looking for a pale ale with a great citrus flavor, I am so glad that I came across this recipe.

In an attempt to focus on about 5 beers, and get them tweak to my version of perfection, while using the same grains in as many beers as I can i wanted to know what you thought about changing the grain bill to this:

9# 2 row
1# Caramel 40

This will drop the ABV a bit but I am fine with that.
Everything else will stay the same, except I will not dry hop.

Thanks in advance.

Tim

 

[Jaybird]

I have been looking for a pale ale with a great citrus flavor, I am so glad that I came across this recipe.

In an attempt to focus on about 5 beers, and get them tweak to my version of perfection, while using the same grains in as many beers as I can i wanted to know what you thought about changing the grain bill to this:

9# 2 row
1# Caramel 40

This will drop the ABV a bit but I am fine with that.
Everything else will stay the same, except I will not dry hop.

Thanks in advance.

Tim

I think toasting your grain is a must for this beer. Why don't you want to add the wheat? It adds so much to this brew! I would hate to see it forgotten. JMHO

I just LOVE this beer! It is a great example of what a good home brew should be.
I am not a fan of the yeast Dude chose but that’s just me, I don't use it. This beer w/ WLP001 is a staple at my house.

Cheers
JJ

 

[Brewsmith]

I agree with Jaybird. I've never made Dude's beer, but it's similar in recipe to mine. I think 1 lb. of crystal is too much in a pale ale. It ends up being too sweet. Stick with the 0.5 lb. The malt will come through better. At least go 9.5 lbs 2-row and 0.5 lb crystal.

 

[MX1]

I think toasting your grain is a must for this beer. Why don't you want to add the wheat? It adds so much to this brew! I would hate to see it forgotten. JMHO

I just LOVE this beer! It is a great example of what a good home brew should be.
I am not a fan of the yeast Dude chose but that’s just me, I don't use it. This beer w/ WLP001 is a staple at my house.


Cheers
JJ

Not against the wheat, after running through my recipies, I will need it for another brew so I can use it here as well.

I agree with Jaybird. I've never made Dude's beer, but it's similar in recipe to mine. I think 1 lb. of crystal is too much in a pale ale. It ends up being too sweet. Stick with the 0.5 lb. The malt will come through better. At least go 9.5 lbs 2-row and 0.5 lb crystal.

Thanks for the input! I want to use the 40 because I need it for other brews, and I am trying to streamline my beers. I see your point about being sweet, i can drop the 40 to .5 and also add .5 wheat to the mix as well.

Again thanks for the input.

new grain bill is this:

9.5# 2 row - (maybe toast a pound or 2?)
.5# Caramel 40
.5# wheat flakes

Tim

 

[Jolly McStanson]

I just kegged this yesterday and forced carbonated it. It was delicious even warm with no carbonation. After the poker game last night I tried it again and oh my god. I had two more glasses. This beer is hands down the best home brew iv ever brewed.

Its tangy with a strong grape fruit taste and a great aroma. I think the sweetness is totally in balance with the dryness. I would make this beer every time I brewed if it weren't for the expense of the hops.

It was clear in the secondary fermenter, but after I kegged it, I kicked some stuff up at the bottom. I have a feeling this beer is not going to make it to the clearing. Ill drink it all before it clears and properly ages.

 

[nowise]

Thank you for this recipe. I brewed it yesterday and it smelled fantastic! I bumped the first 2 hops additions to 1oz and increased the 2-row to compensate for efficiency, but the rest was the same. 3 weeks can't come soon enough so I can taste the coveted hydrometer sample!

 

[MX1]

Are you toasting your grains and then brewing with them the same day, or are you letting them sit for a while.

I have heard that you need to rest them in a paper bag for a week or so to avoid bitterness.

Tim

 

[Flic]

I just bottled this yesterday and I always taste a sample right out of the fermentor on bottling day. This was the first beer where I actually drank an entire pint right out of the fermentor and was ready for another after that one!!

 

[undallas]

do you just add the 2 dry hops together at the same time? or amarillo for 7 and simcoe for 7 or vice versa.

I'm going to brew this in 2 weeks...

 

[Dude]

do you just add the 2 dry hops together at the same time? or amarillo for 7 and simcoe for 7 or vice versa.

I'm going to brew this in 2 weeks...

Same time....

 

[elkdog]

I'm going to make this soon- converting a cooler to an MLT as we speak. Dude, or others, can you toast the grain after it's crushed? I won't have a mill of my own real soon, and would really like to make this recipe, but have to order my grain pre-crushed for a while.

 

[discgolfin]

Are you toasting your grains and then brewing with them the same day, or are you letting them sit for a while.

I have heard that you need to rest them in a paper bag for a week or so to avoid bitterness.

Tim

I toasted mine and brewed with them the next day. I do not think it will affect this beer that much. It really has a nice clean smooth taste. I just tasted a sample when I kegged today and man it is tasty. I have brewed this several times with biscuit malt and this was my first time toasting my own malt and it is almost exactly the same... I have played with the IBU's on this and done it around 45 and as high as 55..I like to keep it around 45..but that is my personal opinion. I think at 55 IBU it was closer to an IPA, but at 45 it was a very hoppy pale ale...

Jay

J

 

[Dude]

I've toasted the grain after I crushed it, and I've also used the grain on the same day I brewed it. I think the bitterness of the hops kind of hides any potential tannins that may develop.

 

[undallas]

I bought victory in placed of the toasted malt like a few of us here.... I guess I'll try the toast crushed 2-rows next time.
Ok... I can't wait. I just got my grains during lunch at LHBS. Time to mash on Sunday morning while everyone is still asleep.

Edit: one last questions... I'm planning to leave the dry hops in the secondary for longer time, 2-3 weeks. Is it not recommended?
Or should I just secondary without hops for 2 weeks and add the hops on the week before I want to bottle. Any one tested this?

 

[korndog]

I bought victory in placed of the toasted malt like a few of us here.... I guess I'll try the toast crushed 2-rows next time.
Ok... I can't wait. I just got my grains during lunch at LHBS. Time to mash on Sunday morning while everyone is still asleep.

Edit: one last questions... I'm planning to leave the dry hops in the secondary for longer time, 2-3 weeks. Is it not recommended?
Or should I just secondary without hops for 2 weeks and add the hops on the week before I want to bottle. Any one tested this?

If you are using biscuit or Victory, you might want to adjust down the quantity. The home toast does not produce the intensity of those malts form my experience. I prefer toasting my own. I would dry hop at the tail end for one week if it were my batch. I have actually been reducing my DH times to 5 days lately for some beers.

 

[elkdog]

I've toasted the grain after I crushed it, and I've also used the grain on the same day I brewed it. I think the bitterness of the hops kind of hides any potential tannins that may develop.

Nice. Thanks for the reply. Based on the recipe and the comments in this thread, I'm in for a treat- a good way to go all-grain. Thanks!

 

[undallas]

If you are using biscuit or Victory, you might want to adjust down the quantity. The home toast does not produce the intensity of those malts form my experience. I prefer toasting my own. I would dry hop at the tail end for one week if it were my batch. I have actually been reducing my DH times to 5 days lately for some beers.

too late.. all my crushed grains are in the same bag.... I guess I'll have a toastier brew..

 

[AnonyBrew]

I just toasted 4 lbs. of unmilled 2-row for a 10g batch of this I plan to brew this weekend. How should I store this until then? Open air inside the house? Or in an airtight container?

I thought I read somewhere that when you toast malt you want to let it sit for a few days out in the open....is that right?

 

[korndog]

I just toasted 4 lbs. of unmilled 2-row for a 10g batch of this I plan to brew this weekend. How should I store this until then? Open air inside the house? Or in an airtight container?

I thought I read somewhere that when you toast malt you want to let it sit for a few days out in the open....is that right?

I use mine the same day but you should store in a paper bag if you are resting it.

 

[korndog]

Damnedest thing. I ended up with 1.054 to kettle today doing a double batch sparge. I'm calculating 85% efficiency and 1.074 OG. I Usually only get about 65%, so I don't know what the heck happened and I checked with Hydro and Refrac. Anyway, I am beefing up the IBU now to make a Lake Walk IPA. Dude, any thoughts on this; I am just doing it across the board to get to about 69IBU.

 

[AnonyBrew]

Brewing this today! Wish me luck.