American Pale Ale Kona, Fire Rock Pale Ale (AG Clone)

[JohnSand]

Drinking some Kona tonight. I need to brew this soon, though I haven't any MO.

 

[blawson327]

I saw this posted a while back but didnt see an answer. For a 5.5 gallon batch does everything get cut in half, including the hops?

This will only be my 3rd batch and I haven't had to scale any recipes yet!

 

[JohnSand]

If the original is 11, yes. Halve everything.

 

[BierMuncher]

If the original is 11, yes. Halve everything.

What he said.

 

[JohnSand]

Thanks Biermuncher! And thank you for your contributions to this forum, you've helped many people make really good beer.

 

[BeerBaronBob]

Hi BM,
After coming across and loving Kona Fire Rock Pale Ale while visiting CA and then finding your recipe, I've brewed a slight variation three times since July 2012.

The modifications were Rahr Pale Ale Malt rather than MO, using good German Munich II (Best or Weyermann) and adding a touch of CaraRed Malt to go along with the Honey malt to darken the beer up a bit. I also used the Kolsch II yeast that was out at the time from Wyeast rather than the regular Kolsch and fermented at 62F. I must say the honey malt is what gives this a sweeter taste.

I was pretty surprised when my APA entry took 1st Place in the 2012 Schooner comp (Racine Wisconsin) out of 26 APAs. It has since become my house Pale Ale.

Now I just got in a fresh load of hops and plan on making a few APA batches to test out some other hop combos using the same base AG malt/yeast recipe and early hop additions but try some other late combos like Amarillo and Mosaic or Citra.

Thanks for sharing your recipe.

 

[BierMuncher]

....I was pretty surprised when my APA entry took 1st Place in the 2012 Schooner comp (Racine Wisconsin) out of 26 APAs. It has since become my house Pale Ale.
...Thanks for sharing your recipe.

Congratulations on a well brewed beer.

 

[slamman190]

Hi BierMuncher,

New to AG, excited to try this recipe. My LHBS does not have Kolsch, but has the Wyeast 1010 as a sub. Do you think this would be ok?

Thanks!

 

[cublue]

Not to hijack, I am sure BM has mire to say, but if memory serves I used us-05 on this with great results...






Mine is the darker one, but taste was spot on, slightly sweeter if I recall.

 

[Mojzis]

Hi BierMuncher,

New to AG, excited to try this recipe. My LHBS does not have Kolsch, but has the Wyeast 1010 as a sub. Do you think this would be ok?

Thanks!

No. That is an american wheat beer yeast, out of character for this. I would look for wyeast 2565 if you want a kolsch style pale ale.

I have used US05 (dry) a few times for this recipe and I recommend it. It is perfect for pale ales.

 

[slamman190]

Thanks Mojzis! Will give the 05 a try

 

[titansvol]

I have made this several times and several different ways, biermuncher original recipe is the best.

 

[MidnightShift]

I have a honey kolsch fermenting now (10 gallons) so I think I will make this and use the slurry from that. Is there anything special I need to do with the slurry or do I just put the wort on top of it and oxygenate as usual? Should I wash the slurry or will it be ok just pitching?

 

[Mojzis]

Generally you want to scoop a cup or two of the slurry and wash/save/throw out the rest depending on what you do usually. Leaving the yeast cake in there would be over pitching. You want the yeast to go through their logarithmic growth phase as usual, too many cells would reduce the length of this phase which could change the profile of the beer.

Long story short it's better form to scoop some slurry out and add to a fresh fermenter. A pitching rate calculator can let you get an idea of how much slurry for your batch.

But this all doesn't mean people don't make some good beer from racking right onto a yeast cake.

 

[MidnightShift]

Sounds good. I use mrmalty when making starters but I just have never used a slurry before. Thanks for the advice. I will be brewing this up on the weekend so I will post results when it is finished.

 

[ncsujrock]

Brewed this today per the original recipe. Cant wait to drink the first glass in a few weeks.


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[slamman190]

Got this one scheduled for this weekends brew, excited!

 

[ncsujrock]

Finally racked straight to the keg last night. I plan to dry hop in the keg for a few days then force carb it.

One more long week of waiting...


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[ncsujrock]

Tried the first one tonight. Doesnt seem to have that hop "whoosh" like planned.

Should I do another dry hop session or leave as is? It tastes fine now, just not like a Fire Rock.


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[Zigzag]

I chose this recipe as my first all grain brew and it exceeded my expectations. No horrible mistakes were made and the brew process went smoothly. The hop flavor and aroma were very present, and the bottles went down very easily. Thanks for the recipe Biermuncher! I highly suspect this will make it into my pipeline again.

 

[jkendal]

I taught a friend how to brew on my 10-gallon system with this recipe 3 weekends ago. He took half and bottled his this past weekend, I just kegged mine Tuesday night and can't wait to taste it (gonna sneak a taste today when I get home from work).

Question for those of you who have already brewed this one - I used US-05 dry yeast, is that gonna make a huge difference?

 

[jkendal]

By the way, has anyone tried using Millennium as the bittering hop in this recipe? That's what Kona uses - http://konabrewingco.com/blog/beers/fire-rock-pale-ale/

I looked it up - it's a cross breed of Nugget and Columbus with an alpha acid range of 14-16%. Sounds interesting.

 

[ncsujrock]

Kona used to use Galena, cascade, and mt hood like the original recipe uses. Personally i liked that version better than the millennium version.

But nonetheless, it will taste good.


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[Tarks]

This recipe is outstanding! Although I have to say that I prefer the beer cloudy than clear. I feel it loses something when the yeast drop. I've never had the original Fire Rock so can't compare. Thanks for the recipe!

 

[trapae]

Hey BM, why the 90 min boil if there is no pils in the grain bill? Btw, centennial blond is day 2 in my fermentor and bubbling away happily.

 

[jeff62217]

I made this around a month ago, fermented for 8-10 days and dry hopped another 6... came out fantastic... the flavor and aroma of this beer were really something. Also it cleared really well with gelatin in the keg.
I added a half pound of honey to mine, at 15 mins to go in the boil for flavor and to dry it out a bit. One of my favorite pale ales so far... never expected kolsch yeast to be good for an APA. Thanks Biermuncher for sharing this great recipe.

 

[trapae]

I was thinking of subbing flaked barley for the carapils. Anyone have an opinion?

 

[crhuda]

I brewed this last year and it was such a hit I am brewing it again today.

 

[d2xx]

I brewed the 3rd batch of this last Friday. but switched the last cascade hop addition and the dry hop to Amarillo. should be interesting in a few weeks.

 

[user 131481]

I brewed this on June 20 and made a few modifications- I'm not a big fan of honey malt in pale ales so I replaced the honey malt with carared. My brew day was not planned ahead so I made use of a dry yeast instead of a starter (used safale-05). I've had it on the gas for 6 days in my fridge and pulled the first sample last night. It's still a bit cloudy so it needs more time. On the positive side, the beer has a really nice balance between malt and hops which is how I remember the commercial sample.

Nice job BM in crafting and sharing a great recipe!!


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