Kickstarter sucks

[aygov]

You do understand how loans and credit work right? You pay interest on them. You don't get money for free which is essentially what kickstarter does.

I do understand, but sitting here and saying that posting your idea on the internet and asking people to fund it for perks is begging and panhandling and that you've never begged in your life is ridiculous. Most people didn't boot strap their way to that car, or their house. They took advantage of the fact that the bank was willing to loan them money.

Is Kickstarter the same as a loan? Nope, I never implied it was. My point was that unless the person I quoted has bought everything entirely with his own cash then he certainly has had to ask someone to help him out. I would find it highly ironic that someone claiming such moral high ground had taken loans....

 

[kombat]

I've only ever donated to one crowdsourcing campaign, it was for Adam Carolla's independant film "Road Hard" on fundanything.com. He raised well over his $1 million goal (it's over $1.4 million now). I donated because I like Adam Carolla, I thought his first movie ("The Hammer") was awesome and I want to see him make another one, and also by contributing, I'll get my name in the film's credits and be immortalized for all time.

 

[00radio]

I'm at work right now, so I can't go digging for it, but Amanda Palmer did a TED talk a couple of months back about putting her album on kickstarter. It was pretty interesting. Anyone else able to put up a link to it?

 

[aygov]

I'm at work right now, so I can't go digging for it, but Amanda Palmer did a TED talk a couple of months back about putting her album on kickstarter. It was pretty interesting. Anyone else able to put up a link to it?

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[reverendj1]

Let's all just agree to disagree. There are good and bad Kickstarter projects, some do seem to be "begging" for money, many are more just like pre-ordering stuff (at a discounted price no less) that you want to see made. Of course with any service there will be those that take advantage of it. That's life. You can't judge all of a group (even if it's users of a website) by the actions of some. If that were true then I would say that all information on this site is bad and everyone is a noob.

I in no way endorse either of these projects, I'm just going to show two examples of one that seems like begging for money and one that is more in tune with what *I* think Kickstarter is all about.

Hoot's Beer Co.
Brews-Key

 

[Grannyknot]

Here's the great thing about kickstarter:

YOU AREN'T OBLIGATED TO VISIT THE SITE OR DONATE MONEY

I think i'm going to start a thread bitchin about the condition of the highways in northern Russia. Because things that have absolutely no affect on my life need to be addressed.

 

[jbaysurfer]

....Amanda Palmer Video....(edited by jbaysurfer)

That was outstanding. What a treat! Thank you!

 

[temple240]

I think i'm going to start a thread bitchin about the condition of the highways in northern Russia. Because things that have absolutely no affect on my life need to be addressed.

I love everything about this comment.

Carry on.

 

[Hammy71]

Here's the great thing about kickstarter:

YOU AREN'T OBLIGATED TO VISIT THE SITE OR DONATE MONEY

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Or be insulted by my opinion. LMAO

 

[Yooper]

I sure don't get why some of the posts are filled with snide remarks and insulting tones. If someone doesn't agree with me, that's cool. But some of the posts have been snide and downright nasty.

I have a great idea! Instead of making snide remarks and making yourself look like a dick, refrain from saying anything if you can't be nice. My momma always said "if you can't say something nice, then don't say anything at all".

If someone isn't capable of being able to have a conversion, especially if they have a different point of view, without being a ******, perhaps they shouldn't say anything. Just a thought!

 

[Grannyknot]

edit...

Sorry Yooper.
I assume that was targeted at me.
Didn't really know I was being a dick, ******, etc, etc.

I'll refrain from commenting on this silly topic anymore.

 

[Yooper]

edit...

Sorry Yooper.
I assume that was targeted at me.
Didn't really know I was being a dick, ******, etc, etc.

I'll refrain from commenting on this silly topic anymore.

NOT directed at you! At least, not solely anyway! I read the first page, and there were lots of snide remarks and insults. Yours wasn't too bad at all- just bigger font.

I think differences of opinion are great, and help us grow as people if we can discuss our perspectives. But insinuating that someone is stupid because they have a different opinion goes against the spirit of discussion, and it bothers me.

 

[jbaysurfer]

I'm very reluctant to say this, because I fear the fall out, but I'm a man of conviction so I'm going to say it with the most respect and deference I can muster:

I gave to this site (as a LIFETIME supporter) because it's a great idea. I also have contributed to one and only one kickstarter for the same reason. Do I think the site owner helped me personally? No, but the forum and the exchange of great ideas here have! I have contributed to that exchange and have been thanked many times for my contributions. Do I see the site owners asking for support as begging or panhandling? Absolutely NOT!!!! I see it as someone who benefits from a great idea (beneficiary: me-- idea: to host this forum) donating to help defray the costs of hosting this forum.

I see the single and only kickstarter I've contributed to no differently. It was a great idea and in exchange I get to be one of the first consumers to benefit from that great idea. It was absolutely NOT begging or panhandling.

I humbly and respectfully suggest that this thread gets moved to the debate forum where thick skin is an accepted prerequisite, because that's what this is, a debate, and every poster on this thread has taken a side in this debate.

I hope that came off as respectfully and deferentially as it was intended.

 

[Randy_Bugger]

I read this whole thread a few times and quite honestly the rudest post came from a moderator.

 

[Yooper]

I gave to this site (as a LIFETIME supporter) because it's a great idea. I also have contributed to one and only one kickstarter for the same reason. Do I think the site owner helped me personally? No, but the forum and the exchange of great ideas here have! I have contributed to that exchange and have been thanked many times for my contributions. Do I see the site owners asking for support as begging or panhandling? Absolutely NOT!!!! I see it as someone who benefits from a great idea (beneficiary: me-- idea: to host this forum) donating to help defray the costs of hosting this forum.

I see the single and only kickstarter I've contributed to no differently. It was a great idea and in exchange I get to be one of the first consumers to benefit from that great idea. It was absolutely NOT begging or panhandling.

Wow- I never thought of it that way at all. When you explain it that way, it seems different to me now. Thanks for that!

When I think about it, I've given to a lot of things that don't "benefit" me directly but still are good things. (Church, food banks, other charities, plus I'm sure some for-profit things). It's unusual that a discussion on an internet forum could change my mind, and make me see things differently, but there is always a first time.

 

[Yooper]

I read this whole thread a few times and quite honestly the rudest post came from a moderator.

If you see something inappropriate, there is a "report this post" button under each post so that it can be reported and handled.