Double IPA Kern River Citra DIPA

[hopstupid]

I might have to pickup some of those bags. If I drop them in directly the later additions may not have time to precipitate out and I don't want a murky looking beer.

the real deal citra is murky but delicious

 

[arborman]

the real deal citra is murky but delicious

I like murky

 

[arborman]

So, I am planning on brewing this next weekend.... I listened to the podcast, and have all my ingredients. One thing I really took away from the Podcast was when Kyle said that its really easy to over do Citra... He mentioned that if overdone, it can make it seem like you are drinking fruit juice.

Well, this week I had single hop beer that is made by Knee Deep Brewing. Its a Citra Pale Ale. My final impressions on that beer was that I almost felt like I was drinking fruit juice. I am hoping it may have been a bad bottle ( it was also very lightly carbonated), as they are one of my favorite breweries right now, but I became worried about brewing this Citra IPA.

I like bitterness in my IPA, and not an overly sweet IPA. Are any of you who brewed this finding that its a bit overdone on Citra, or that is has fruit juice qualities to it? Man, I don't want to brew Mango juice! I am hoping you guys who have brewed this, or have had the real deal, can ease my mind that brewing this is the right thing to do. I am committed to brewing this, I just hope it turns out to be a great beer like its cracked up to be!

 

[theveganbrewer]

So, I am planning on brewing this next weekend.... I listened to the podcast, and have all my ingredients. One thing I really took away from the Podcast was when Kyle said that its really easy to over do Citra... He mentioned that if overdone, it can make it seem like you are drinking fruit juice.

Well, this week I had single hop beer that is made by Knee Deep Brewing. Its a Citra Pale Ale. My final impressions on that beer was that I almost felt like I was drinking fruit juice. I am hoping it may have been a bad bottle ( it was also very lightly carbonated), as they are one of my favorite breweries right now, but I became worried about brewing this Citra IPA.

I like bitterness in my IPA, and not an overly sweet IPA. Are any of you who brewed this finding that its a bit overdone on Citra, or that is has fruit juice qualities to it? Man, I don't want to brew Mango juice! I am hoping you guys who have brewed this, or have had the real deal, can ease my mind that brewing this is the right thing to do. I am committed to brewing this, I just hope it turns out to be a great beer like its cracked up to be!

It is fruit juicy. At ~60IBUs, it's to be expected, it's also very close to what the real deal tastes like, which, this being a clone, is a good thing. If you really want bitterness, you should add some harsher traditional bittering hops if you want to get away from the Citra juice effect.

 

[hopstupid]

So, I am planning on brewing this next weekend.... I listened to the podcast, and have all my ingredients. One thing I really took away from the Podcast was when Kyle said that its really easy to over do Citra... He mentioned that if overdone, it can make it seem like you are drinking fruit juice.

Well, this week I had single hop beer that is made by Knee Deep Brewing. Its a Citra Pale Ale. My final impressions on that beer was that I almost felt like I was drinking fruit juice. I am hoping it may have been a bad bottle ( it was also very lightly carbonated), as they are one of my favorite breweries right now, but I became worried about brewing this Citra IPA.

I like bitterness in my IPA, and not an overly sweet IPA. Are any of you who brewed this finding that its a bit overdone on Citra, or that is has fruit juice qualities to it? Man, I don't want to brew Mango juice! I am hoping you guys who have brewed this, or have had the real deal, can ease my mind that brewing this is the right thing to do. I am committed to brewing this, I just hope it turns out to be a great beer like its cracked up to be!

It smells like fruit juice, it has a really good balance if u get it down to 1.010 it won't be to sweet. Drank my last bottle a couple weeks ago from the last release it smelled like pineapple juice. yum It's not really bitter though it's just right


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[sk888smooth]

My keg sadly ran dry of this one last night. It is a sad day today. This beer was a hair bitter when I first kegged it, but it wore off and was perfect afterward. This actually tasted identical to Zombie dust with an oz of cascade in the dry hop vs Armarillo.

 

[Jeremy_N]

Just started the mash. First attempt at this recipe.

 

[Dave1096]

Just started the mash. First attempt at this recipe.

Just added my 4th dry hop addition yesterday and began force carbonation. Hopefully will be drinking quality Citra by this time next week, but the flat sample I had today was awesome.

 

[arborman]

Curious to know if everyone is going into a secondary with this one? I'd prefer to keep in primary, even with the dry hopping schedule, but would do a secondary if its recommended. Cheers!

 

[Dave1096]

Curious to know if everyone is going into a secondary with this one? I'd prefer to keep in primary, even with the dry hopping schedule, but would do a secondary if its recommended. Cheers!

I did my secondary and dry hopping in the keg. Worked great for me. Also, I emailed Kyle from Kern River Brewing, and he told me that he leaves all of the dry hop additions in together until he racks after 12 days of dry hopping...doesn't remove each addition before adding the next.

 

[theveganbrewer]

I did my secondary and dry hopping in the keg. Worked great for me. Also, I emailed Kyle from Kern River Brewing, and he told me that he leaves all of the dry hop additions in together until he racks after 12 days of dry hopping...doesn't remove each addition before adding the next.

Good info, thanks for the post. I would go put it on the first page but system doesn't allow me to edit the post anymore

 

[arborman]

I did my secondary and dry hopping in the keg. Worked great for me. Also, I emailed Kyle from Kern River Brewing, and he told me that he leaves all of the dry hop additions in together until he racks after 12 days of dry hopping...doesn't remove each addition before adding the next.

This is really good to know... I was under the impression that everyone was pulling out the prior dry hops before adding the newest ones. Sweet! Makes life easier now.

How did you go about adding your dry hops to your keg? Did you use hop bags?

 

[Dave1096]

This is really good to know... I was under the impression that everyone was pulling out the prior dry hops before adding the newest ones. Sweet! Makes life easier now.

How did you go about adding your dry hops to your keg? Did you use hop bags?

Yeah, I used a hose clamp to secure the drawstring of my hop bag to the underside of the pressure relief valve on my corny. That way it's easy to pull the bag up enough to open and dump more hops in every 3 days.

 

[Dave1096]

Good info, thanks for the post. I would go put it on the first page but system doesn't allow me to edit the post anymore

Thanks for posting the recipe...it's a really good one. I grew up 45 minutes from Kern River Brewing and didn't get into craft beer until I moved away to Philly, so this might be as close as I can get to having the real thing for a while. At least I can always grab some Just Outstanding and Class V when I go back to visit my parents every year...maybe I'll get lucky and be over there when they have a release day.

 

[ILoveBeer2]

Curious to know if everyone is going into a secondary with this one? I'd prefer to keep in primary, even with the dry hopping schedule, but would do a secondary if its recommended. Cheers!

I dry hopped mine in the primary leaving the hops in for the full twelve days. Turned out awesome.

 

[arborman]

I dry hopped mine in the primary leaving the hops in for the full twelve days. Turned out awesome.

Sweet! I'm doing this then. Did you pull each dry hop as you added new ones, or did you leave them? I'm also thinking of bumping up my gravity a bit, maybe shooting for 1.075-80.

 

[Facinerous]

This is a delicious brew. I finished a modified batch as I couldn't get my hands on Amarillo. I also reduced the amount of hops added in some areas, many the dry hopping. Even so. A truly great brew. Just finished drinking one

 

[Dave1096]

Sweet! I'm doing this then. Did you pull each dry hop as you added new ones, or did you leave them? I'm also thinking of bumping up my gravity a bit, maybe shooting for 1.075-80.

Leave all of the dry hop additions in together.

 

[Dave1096]

This is a delicious brew. I finished a modified batch as I couldn't get my hands on Amarillo. I also reduced the amount of hops added in some areas, many the dry hopping. Even so. A truly great brew. Just finished drinking one

I think I'm going to do this again for my next batch, but I'll split the hops in 1/3's between Citra, Mosaic, and Nelson. This grain bill might become my standard for my IIPA's...really nice mouthfeel on this, and I love the honey malt.

 

[ILoveBeer2]

Sweet! I'm doing this then. Did you pull each dry hop as you added new ones, or did you leave them? I'm also thinking of bumping up my gravity a bit, maybe shooting for 1.075-80.

I am truley lazy and dry hopped leaf and pellets without a bag. i even cold crashed with the hops in for a few more days. No grassy flavors.

This beer gets better with age. It gets less grapefruit and more balanced every day. Unfortunetly this keg will kick soon. May have to tinker with this one to make it my own. Next time I'm using a different yeast.

 

[brewguyver]

I'm planning on a double batch ~10 gallons for Home Brewer day (5/4). Any final verdict on using original recipe (Nugget for bittering and WLP001) vs using warrior and another yeast?

 

[Dave1096]

I am truley lazy and dry hopped leaf and pellets without a bag. i even cold crashed with the hops in for a few more days. No grassy flavors.

This beer gets better with age. It gets less grapefruit and more balanced every day. Unfortunetly this keg will kick soon. May have to tinker with this one to make it my own. Next time I'm using a different yeast.

My next batch based on this recipe I'm going to use Conan yeast to see how that turns out.

 

[mooshimanx]

I recommend against changing the gravity on this one. Its balance and flavor work really well where they are at and I agree its a very borderline "imperial IPA."

I've had very good luck so far making it as a 6 gallon recipe and doing 100% of the dry hopping in the fermenting bucket, and then crashing on Day 12. I then rack off of the sludge and got close to commercial levels of clarity (well, the commercial brewers who aren't flat-out filtering to sterile levels) in the 8 days it took to carbonate.

 

[arborman]

I recommend against changing the gravity on this one. Its balance and flavor work really well where they are at and I agree its a very borderline "imperial IPA."

I've had very good luck so far making it as a 6 gallon recipe and doing 100% of the dry hopping in the fermenting bucket, and then crashing on Day 12. I then rack off of the sludge and got close to commercial levels of clarity (well, the commercial brewers who aren't flat-out filtering to sterile levels) in the 8 days it took to carbonate.

Well, I'll let you know how my batch comes out. Going for a 5 gal batch, and bumped the gravity to 1.075. Pretty small increase, so I hope it keeps things in balance.

 

[arborman]

How long did you guys find it took for this beer to ferment for? I'm coming up on 7 days, and I'm going to pull a hydro sample. Per the podcast, they say it can be anywhere from 6-8 days before they rack and dryhop. I used San Diego super yeast from white labs, which is supposed to be a fast fermenting yeast. My ferm started within 2 hrs of pitching

 

[Dave1096]

How long did you guys find it took for this beer to ferment for? I'm coming up on 7 days, and I'm going to pull a hydro sample. Per the podcast, they say it can be anywhere from 6-8 days before they rack and dryhop. I used San Diego super yeast from white labs, which is supposed to be a fast fermenting yeast. My ferm started within 2 hrs of pitching

I left mine in primary for 12 days (probably longer than I had to) and transferred to my corny keg for dry hopping/secondary. When I transferred my gravity reading was 1.010 and had been for about 4 days. Be patient with this beer. After the 12 days of dry hopping I couldn't wait to get it carbed up so I could drink it, and at first I was a little disappointed. It was good but nothing special. It's been kegged for about 2 weeks now, and it tastes like a completely different beer than it did 10 days ago. It's hitting it's sweet spot, and it's awesome.

 

[joety]

I left mine in primary for 12 days (probably longer than I had to) and transferred to my corny keg for dry hopping/secondary. When I transferred my gravity reading was 1.010 and had been for about 4 days. Be patient with this beer. After the 12 days of dry hopping I couldn't wait to get it carbed up so I could drink it, and at first I was a little disappointed. It was good but nothing special. It's been kegged for about 2 weeks now, and it tastes like a completely different beer than it did 10 days ago. It's hitting it's sweet spot, and it's awesome.

I went 22 days in the conical then racked to carboys for dry hopping. I was at 1.014. It fermented at about 62 degrees.

 

[Johnnyhitch1]

Just brewed this yesterday, had to use 8oz corn sugar to hit the OG. My efficiency is a little low.
Wort smelled delicious as a i racked to the FV. Great brew that ive been trying to get my hands on but it seems this is a close clone so 5gal will suffice!

Cheers vegan thx for another sick DIPA recipe. Brewing your updated Heady recipe on sunday!

 

[2centswort]

I brewed this on 3/24 and stuck to the recipe with the exception of of using wyeast 1056. Kept in primary for 21 days and racked to a keg for dry hopping. Got down to 1.008. Close to 8% ABV. It turned out awesome. The balance between the hops and malt is perfect and goes down SMOOTH. If you can find citra hops I highly encourage you to try this one out. Think of it as a double Zombie Dust.

 

[hopstupid]

Kern is bringing citra to the Firestone Walker Invitational Beer Festival

If you go make sure to stop by their booth