just an observation

[rexbanner]

Why is everyone ragging on this kid?

My profile said I was a 27 year-old woman until someone brought it to my attention. (I'm 23 and all man in case anyone says otherwise!) Maybe his profile was incorrect.

Although I don't quite agree with what he said, I've seen some bad advice on here. More often, I've seen really good advice. Why would anyone expect anything otherwise? There's no requirement to join--anyone can, which is a good thing, but that just means you need to be careful. The guys who really know their stuff use lots of facts and science in addition to personal experience.

This has been something on my mind for a while--check my sig. Someone needs to write a new book on homebrewing. We take a lot for granted, and when some of this knowledge is put to the test through the scientific method, it falls flat. For example, according to Basic Brewing podcast, irish moss doesn't do anything. (I still add it for ****s and gigs since I have a bunch.) I love podcasts because there are guys out there who are willing to conduct real experiments to test brewing methods, but they tend to be long-winded, and the experiments aren't repeated enough to be 100 percent reliable.

Just sayin. Also, Raging Bitch is delicious.

 

[Pappers_]

]Why is everyone ragging on this kid?

Because he was arrogant, wrong, and offensive.

This has been something on my mind for a while--check my sig. Someone needs to write a new book on homebrewing.

How to Brew is about as scientific, up to date and thorough as I can stand.

We take a lot for granted, and when some of this knowledge is put to the test through the scientific method, it falls flat. For example, according to Basic Brewing podcast, irish moss doesn't do anything. (I still add it for ****s and gigs since I have a bunch.) I love podcasts because there are guys out there who are willing to conduct real experiments to test brewing methods, but they tend to be long-winded, and the experiments aren't repeated enough to be 100 percent reliable.

I like Basic Brewing, listen to it often, but most/all of the "experiments" they run are nowhere near scientifically valid. They are informative, interesting, but don't begin to justify statements like "irish moss doesn't do anything."

Just sayin.

Ok

 

[Baja_Brewer]

1. why does everyome mash in a cooler.....makes no sense, you cant heat it and its a pain in theass

2. why does everyone use beersmith like its a religion or something, promash is much better but since "everyone uses beersmith" thats what everyone does

3. the barley crusher sucks....yea I know everyone loves it....but it sucks...weak bearings and slow as shi*........for the price the schmidling maltmill is so much better made and is so much faster

just my 3 cents

for everyone here....just because everyone's doing it and it seems the "thing to do" doesn't mean its the best option

I have seen alot of bad advice here and it needs to stop


so there

Smells like troll in here....

 

[Yooper]

This isn't up for debate, so let me just say this. Our policy is that you must be of legal age in the country in which you reside. When you sign up for the forum, you swear to this. You also must put in your date of birth.

If your date of birth is wrong, that's something YOU did. Now, the "female" setting? Yeah, I think we can accept responsiblity for that!

If someone's not smart to lie about their age, or to subtract 21 from 2010, maybe they don't belong here.

 

[Pappers_]

If someone's not smart to lie about their age, or to subtract 21 from 2010, maybe they don't belong here.

I think there may be a correlation between not being smart enough to say you're 21 in a beer making forum and deciding on your 4th post to call everyone an idiot.

Now, the "female" setting? Yeah, I think we can accept responsiblity for that!

I prefer to think that all the men around here who didn't change the default gender setting to 'male' when they registered are just experimenting . . . .

 

[Brewsmith]

I love how two of his 3 remaining post were resurrecting old dead threads.

 

[Pumbaa]

I'm betting he is one of those hydrometer freeks

 

[KayaBrew]

Q: "Why is everyone ragging on this kid?"

A: Because he's a ******. There, I said it.

 

[DevilsCreekBrewing]

Hmm, I use a keggle MLT, ProMash and a Crakenstein. I``m doing it mostly right it seems.

I only trolls pet obits and movie reviews for porn theaters.

 

[rexbanner]

Because he was arrogant, wrong, and offensive.



How to Brew is about as scientific, up to date and thorough as I can stand.



I like Basic Brewing, listen to it often, but most/all of the "experiments" they run are nowhere near scientifically valid. They are informative, interesting, but don't begin to justify statements like "irish moss doesn't do anything."



Ok

Well it doesn't mention hop teas, late extract additions, cold steeping, that HSA isn't dangerous, and other things that don't come off the top of my head. Not saying I don't love the book. It just needs to be updated a bit. If you perused every BYO and brewing podcast out there, I bet you could come up with a pretty big body of information to test. If you sat down and conducted real scientific brewing experiments you could really get to the bottom of a lot of questions we have. If I had more time and money, I'd be doing exactly that.

Even though I said "according to basic brewing radio," and also pointed out the fact that their experiments aren't always thorough, you somehow still managed to take me out of context. My point was to lighten up a bit, but I guess that was lost on you.

 

[cracked1]

**sarcasm alert**

I believe this is my 19th post and I've done two extract brews and one cider. I obviously have the clout and credentials to let you all know how terrible you are at everything. I'm getting tired of getting all this helpfull advice and finding all these threads with such great information! Maybe I'll start my own unhelpfull forum site to prove to everyone how wrong they are...

Some people's kids...

 

[ChshreCat]

I admit that there is a lot of bad advice handed out on here. Most of it is from inexperienced newbies like the OP, though. The veteran brewers on here have taught me one hell of a lot since I first arrived.

 

[evanos]

I'm learning tons every time I peruse this forum and I couldn't be more thankful for the veteran info on here. I think a member should just contribute where their skill/knowledge/experience can be an addition to the community, even if it's just the enthusiastic "Hey I'm a new brewer and this is my first brew!" post. I don't tell people how to brew because I'm a complete noob, but I'm more than willing to comment on hops growing (from a horticultural background) and give a look at peoples' projects that seem interesting.

Pride comes before/during the fall.

 

[evanos]

^thank you to YooperBrew, Cat, Bobby, Ed Wort, and the countless other pros for all your contribution^

 

[cracked1]

I'm learning tons every time I peruse this forum and I couldn't be more thankful for the veteran info on here. I think a member should just contribute where their skill/knowledge/experience can be an addition to the community, even if it's just the enthusiastic "Hey I'm a new brewer and this is my first brew!" post. I don't tell people how to brew because I'm a complete noob, but I'm more than willing to comment on hops growing (from a horticultural background) and give a look at peoples' projects that seem interesting.

Pride comes before/during the fall.

^thank you to YooperBrew, Cat, Bobby, Ed Wort, and the countless other pros for all your contribution^

+100
Anytime I've posted one of my silly noob questions I've got great responses, usually within minutes. The help many of these people give us noobs is outstanding and the patience they have is sometimes almost unbelievable.

 

[evanos]

+100
Anytime I've posted one of my silly noob questions I've got great responses, usually within minutes. The help many of these people give us noobs is outstanding and the patience they have is sometimes almost unbelievable.

Ironically, Cracked1, I've also done two extracts and have cider in primary. Cheers, good friend

 

[Pappers_]

Even though I said "according to basic brewing radio," and also pointed out the fact that their experiments aren't always thorough, you somehow still managed to take me out of context.

I quoted your entire paragraph, that's not taking you out of context.

My point was to lighten up a bit, but I guess that was lost on you.

I understood your point that I should lighten up on the OP. I just disagree.

 

[Homercidal]

Dammit! Someone called me out on my brewing techniques!

I guess now I have to ditch the cooler and Beersmith, cause obviously they don't work! (I built my own crusher and I "think" it works ok, so until I hear otherwise, I'll keep using it.)

So... What was it I've been making these past few years if it wasn't beer?

 

[Pappers_]

What was it I've been making these past few years if it wasn't beer?

Golden nectar of the gods?

 

[j1laskey]

Just my observation...Post count does not equal experience...

 

[j1laskey]

...and just to bump my post count up a notch....this thread is entertaining

 

[Pappers_]

Just my observation...Post count does not equal experience...

Exactly. I'm nearing 3,000 posts, which only proves that I like to hang out around this forum. People would be well-served to ignore any advice I might give, as poorly thought-out and ill-conceived.

 

[Yooper]

Just my observation...Post count does not equal experience...

Well, I agree! I have over 25,000 posts and am mostly full of BS.

Jamilz (http://iam.homebrewtalk.com/jamilz) has 40 posts. He's a homebrewing idol.

Maybe the inverse is true- a high post count means little brewing knowledge is shared, but there sure is lots of blabbing in my case!

 

[Pappers_]

Well, I agree! I have over 25,000 posts and am mostly full of BS.

Jamilz (http://iam.homebrewtalk.com/jamilz) has 40 posts. He's a homebrewing idol.

Maybe the inverse is true- a high post count means little brewing knowledge is shared, but there sure is lots of blabbing in my case!

Yooper, I have to say that there has been more than one time when there has been a scientific-oriented brewing discussion going on (the kind I avoid like the plague because my brewing is art not science dammit) and, suddenly, you pop up and say something cogent and insightful.

Last night I was reading a book on mead making and found myself actually interested in the molecular structure of honey. Excuse me while I go hit myself with a hammer.

 

[MetallHed]

I heard through the grapevine that that gnome guy posts a lot about everything but brewing...

 

[Revvy]

I'm still trying to figure out #1 and #2.....

What's a PITA about a cooler in his mind? And more importantly everyone here uses and advocates beersmith? Seems like brewers on here are evenly split amongst all the main paid, and even free recipe creation tools...I haven't seen a preponderance over one or the other by the posters on here.

Hmmm...i'm always fascinated by what triggers rants or trolls, and can't find anything that would in his small amount of posts to have warranted it.

I know ya'll are having fun, and I am enjoying the responses, but I am still kinda puzzeled by his post...unless it was pure trolling by taking on three "icons" of brewing gear, coolers, beersmith and Barleycrushers.....

 

[the_bird]

Trolls are trolls. Most just aren't so blatant. That's why it shouldn't be a one-year ban; kid was here to start ****, pure and simple. **** him.

 

[ChshreCat]

^thank you to YooperBrew, Cat, Bobby, Ed Wort, and the countless other pros for all your contribution^

Damn, I'm good... at making people think I know what I'm doing.

 

[IrregularPulse]

1. why does everyome mash in a cooler.....makes no sense, you cant heat it and its a pain in theass
I don't do different temperatures during my mashes, It hold constant temp far better than anything else and cost. Just cause it makes no sense to you, doesn't mean it doesn't make sense. All those reasons I stated to use a cooler, would make using a keg make no sense.

2. why does everyone use beersmith like its a religion or something, promash is much better but since "everyone uses beersmith" thats what everyone does
It was the first I saw, I downloaded the free trial and loved. 2 years after buying it it makes great repeatable beer. No reason to switch. Therefore when someone asks about software I recommend BS because it's what I've used and love.

3. the barley crusher sucks....yea I know everyone loves it....but it sucks...weak bearings and slow as shi*........for the price the schmidling maltmill is so much better made and is so much faster

just my 3 cents

for everyone here....just because everyone's doing it and it seems the "thing to do" doesn't mean its the best option
No comment, I don't have a mill yet.

I have seen a lot of bad advice here and it needs to stop
There is lots of bad advice, but just because it's not your opinion or different that what you prefer doesn't make it bad advice.

so there

Answers in Red




so there

*edit*
dangit, in too late.

 

[wortmaker]

Boy, I really hope that was a perma-ban, not just a "ban-until-you're-21"-ban. What an *******.

it was a "ban-until-you're-21" ban, I am now back to show you all how to brew correctly