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Over the past few years I've made friends with the head brewer/co-owner of a local brewery. Sometimes I bring in some bottles of HB for feedback. One in particular that he liked was a Grodziskie I brewed 2 summers ago.

This summer, he asked if I wanted to do an autumn pro/am brew at the brewery after they finish their run of O-fest, and he made it clear he wanted to do that Grodziskie. He's been intrigued with the style and thinks it would be a good seller. He wanted a tweak: bump it up in ABV, as he doesn't think a 3% beer would sell. Apparently, he's not too risk-averse, as this is kind of a niche style. However, he thinks it will sit well for a refreshing autumn beer, especially if it's not too smoky like a rauchbier.

In August, I brewed a 5-gal test batch, and brought some bottles in for him and his coworkers to try last week. It is 5.1% ABV, so more in line with the strength he's looking for. He liked the test batch and wants to move forward on this! This is a 15 bbl brewery, so in mid-late Oct we will brew 450-ish gallons of smoked wheat beer. I get to come in for the entire brew day--something like 7 or 8 hours. I'll probably be lugging some sacks of grain, etc. But I'm excited to learn about how a real brewery works, first-hand, as I have never done this before.

Then the brewery will do a roll out, probably early Nov, so it will be fun to be there for the unveiling of this brew. AFAIK, no one has brewed a Grodziskie/Graetzer in this area. We have to brainstorm a way to promote it. He asked me to think of a name. They like to do pop music references for some of their beer names so I thought of "Smoke From a Distant Fire." (The song was a one-hit wonder. Hopefully, the beer won't be.) Maybe someone here has an idea for a name...I'm open to suggestions.

My recipe is not true-to-form for a historical Grodziskie. Per the style it's all Weyermann oak-smoked wheat, with a little acid malt for pH adjustment. But I bittered with Perle, and pitched US-05. He liked the flavor and aroma, but thought that it may need a bit of color, so we could add a little melanoidin or toasted wheat.

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That’s so cool, congratulations! I brewed a Grodziskie a couple years back as an homage to my Polish heritage. Been wanting to make one again. Enjoy your experience of being part of brewing it at a brewery.
 
Très cool! Enjoy the brewday and the release day too. As for Smoke in a song title...
  1. Smoke on the Water - Deep Purple
  2. Smoke gets in Your Eyes - Platters
  3. Smoke and Mirrors - Gotye
  4. Smokestack Litenin' - Howlin' Wolf
  5. Black Smoke Risin' - Greta Van Fleet
  6. I Smell Smoke - Johnny Winter
  7. Smoke From a Distant Fire - Sandford-Townsend
  8. River of Smoke - Burl Ives
  9. Smoke Signals - Phoebe Bridgers
  10. Free Smoke - Drake
That should get you started.

Cheers!

Chris
 
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Très cool! Enjoy the brewday and the release day too. As for Smoke in a song title...
  1. Smoke on the Water - Deep Purple
  2. Smoke gets in Your Eyes - Platters
  3. Smoke and Mirrors - Gotten
  4. Smokestack Litenin' - Howlin' Wolf
  5. Black Smoke Risin' - Greta Van Fleet
  6. I Smell Smoke - Johnny Winter
  7. Smoke From a Distant Fire - Sandford-Townsend
  8. River of Smoke - Burl Ives
  9. Smoke Signals - Phoebe Bridgers
  10. Free Smoke - Drake
That should get you started.

Cheers!

Chris

I was already considering #7, but thinking I like #4. The brewery is in an old WWII factory bldg with huge smokestacks coming out the roof. I suggested it to the brewer today, will see what he thinks.

Nobody in this region uses the name for beer. One in SF, another in Portsmouth, NH. Not seeing any active US trademark registrations; a few abandoned TMs for beer, whiskey, glassware.
 
#4 should fit in quite nicely for that brewery, then. Never really thought about trademarks....guess you've have to in a commercial setting. Good luck with it and keep us updated on how it progresses.

Chris
 
Thats awesome. You getting a percentage or anything?

At this point we haven't discussed any compensation, though it's possible. I'm not expecting any, and this could be sort of like an internship. AFAIK, they may send me home with a few growlers. :)
 
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The other side of the coin may be that they decide to downplay the whole "smoke" thing altogether. Maybe a less descriptive and more fanciful name will be in order. In talking with the brewer he said that "smoke beer" kind of scares some people off. No doubt due to some having tried (or heard about) the campfire-in-your-mouth Bamberg-style Rauchbiers.

Nevertheless, this Grodziskie isn't real in-your-face with the smoke, despite the nearly 100% smoke malt in the grist. The oak-smoked wheat is much less intense than the typical beech-smoked Rauchmalz. It's just a matter of getting people to try it and win them over.

We want to shoot for a mainstream customer base, and being a 15 Bbl batch, we don't want to end up with a lot of unsold beer. I do think once people try it and see how refreshing it is, they'll come back for more.
 
This is very cool, best of luck! I had to look up the history of the style to understand what was actually going on. Is there any other style of brewing that is named after a locality?

Cheers!
 
Update: I heard from the head brewer. He said he had a few beers in line ahead of mine, so pushing brew day for the Grodziskie back to mid-late Nov.

He was concerned with the 100% wheat malt (stuck sparges) and asked if I was cool with him subbing in some 2-row or Pils. Yeah, he asked! He didn't want to monkey with my recipe unless I was OK with it. The guy's a class act.

I said "hell, yeah," whatever it takes to make this work. After all, he's the pro, so I will defer to his judgment. It was never going to be an authentic Grod, anyway, and having a little less smoke on the palate might be good, as he said smoke beers can scare some customers off.

So I will wait on him to let me know when we'll roll.
 
Just got word from the head brewer and he said all the ingredients are in. He wants me to help with the brewing just after Thanksgiving, 11/28.

I'm stoked!
That's awesome! I've always wanted to visit that brewery, really cool setting. You should be stoked, it pretty cool to say "that's my beer on tap". I'll try to make it there and try your beer.

I just brewed a beer at StormKing just a down the road. I won BOS at the MN State Fair for a German Pils and they offered to brew it on their 10bbl. I brewed it with my youngest a couple of weeks ago and it should be on tap after Thanksgiving. It was pretty cool and John, the head brewer, treated us like royalty.

I hope you enjoy the experience! Hopefully they send you home with a 5 gallon keg of it.
 
Up until now I hadn't disclosed the name of the brewery, as I didn't want to make assumptions or take liberties. Today I mentioned HBT while talking with Matt Asay, the head brewer, he said to go ahead and promote it. The brewery is Forgotten Star Brewing, in Fridley, MN. No doubt some of you have already read between the lines and figured that out.

For those of you who don't know the brewery, it's in a former WWII armaments plant. The place has a lot of cool history and I recently found out my wife's dad worked at the plant shortly after he rotated out of the Navy in WWII. The beers are excellent, and it's our main go-to brewery, as we don't go to many others.

I don't know what the grain-to-glass time will be for this beer, but I'm guessing it'll be ready mid-Dec or so. I'll post after brew day and let everyone know when it should be rolled out for serving.
 
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Up until now I hadn't disclosed the name of the brewery, as I didn't want to make assumptions or take liberties. Today I mentioned HBT while talking with Matt Asay, the head brewer, he said to go ahead and promote it. The brewery is Forgotten Star Brewing, in Fridley, MN. No doubt some of you have already read between the lines and figured that out.

For those of you who don't know the brewery, it's in a former WWII armaments plant. The place has a lot of cool history and I recently found out my wife's dad worked at the plant shortly after he rotated out of the Navy in WWII. The beers are excellent, and it's our main go-to brewery, as we don't go to many others.

I don't know what the grain-to-glass time will be for this beer, but I'm guessing it'll be ready mid-Dec or so. I'll post after brew day and let everyone know when it should be rolled out for serving.
A fellow brewer from the promised land! I'm in Iowa, but grew up in Moohread. Always pine for my home state, and get back as often as I can. Really cool thing you got going with Forgotten Star! I'll have to see if I can get my hands on some.
 
Up until now I hadn't disclosed the name of the brewery, as I didn't want to make assumptions or take liberties. Today I mentioned HBT while talking with Matt Asay, the head brewer, he said to go ahead and promote it. The brewery is Forgotten Star Brewing, in Fridley, MN. No doubt some of you have already read between the lines and figured that out.

For those of you who don't know the brewery, it's in a former WWII armaments plant. The place has a lot of cool history and I recently found out my wife's dad worked at the plant shortly after he rotated out of the Navy in WWII. The beers are excellent, and it's our main go-to brewery, as we don't go to many others.

I don't know what the grain-to-glass time will be for this beer, but I'm guessing it'll be ready mid-Dec or so. I'll post after brew day and let everyone know when it should be rolled out for serving.
Congratulations! What a great opportunity for you!

I can't wait to hear (or read) about your experiences.

Good luck and enjoy (I know you will)!
 

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