I cannot force carbonate suddenly?

[marc1]

I definitely don't want to be argumentative on this topic but just pointing out that if you use a dip tub as a gas post you will carbonate the liquid faster as you're directly injecting gas into the liquid. This is the same as using an O2 stone submerged in liquid. Surface area is indeed important in many cases (larger surface area to ferment and shallow levels = quicker flocculation than a tall skinny keg), but this is not what is happening in my case I don't believe.


I'll report back my findings when I try to force carb some water off this tank. For the sake of the argument I'll make sure it's full but not up to the gas post.

Worst case I end up with cold flat-ish water, best case great seltzer water and no understanding why a ~7% mead refuses to carbonate under 30 PSI for 3 weeks.

I was suggesting it as a measure of making sure that there was head space. In any case, please keep us updated!

 

[jeebuscrisis]

I was suggesting it as a measure of making sure that there was head space. In any case, please keep us updated!

An aside, TROGDOR!
Burninating the countryside
Burninating the peasants
Burninating all the peoples
And their thatched-roof cottages!
Thatched-roof cottages!


I miss logging on to see new strong bad episodes...

 

[mac_1103]

I definitely don't want to be argumentative on this topic but just pointing out that if you use a dip tub as a gas post you will carbonate the liquid faster as you're directly injecting gas into the liquid. This is the same as using an O2 stone submerged in liquid.

I'm pretty sure that those are not in fact the same thing. Large CO2 bubbles injected through a dip tube don't really do much except rise to the surface and pressurize the headspace. Very large numbers of very small bubbles injected through a sintered stone carbonate your beverage faster because very small bubbles of CO2 can dissolve into the liquid before they reach the surface.

 

[Bobby_M]

If you have pure CO2, a full 5LB tank will weigh 5 pounds more the T or TW stamped on the tank. In a beermix fill, it will only be about 2 pounds heavier than tare. Put the tank on a scale.

 

[Bobby_M]

I definitely don't want to be argumentative on this topic but just pointing out that if you use a dip tub as a gas post you will carbonate the liquid faster as you're directly injecting gas into the liquid. This is the same as using an O2 stone submerged in liquid. Surface area is indeed important in many cases (larger surface area to ferment and shallow levels = quicker flocculation than a tall skinny keg), but this is not what is happening in my case I don't believe.

It's all about surface area. A keg on its side rolled back and forth would make very fine bubbles while bubbling up through a wide open diptube would be a few very large bubbles and only slightly speed carbonation over a static headspace pressurization. In other words, most of the CO2 isn't touching the liquid and it gets to the surface and joins the headspace. That's why diffusion stones are used instead of wide open ports.

 

[Bobby_M]

Two replies in and I still didn't say what I wanted to say. Mead is typically 3x the ABV of typical beers. Higher ABV carbonates much slower.