john from dc
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i've heard zots (like the audio file above) from people who seem to take care in their pronunciation of words.
huh... I swear they used a "y" sound. I was drinking though so...
It may have sounded different depending on the region they are from. For example I can understand Hochdeutsch and Bayerisch (Erdinger is from Bayern), but Berlinerdeutsch, Hessisch, and Schwäbisch are impossible for me to understand even though almost all of the words are the same.
As a speaker of German I would pronounce things like this:
tun = toon
"Wuh-la-mit" is correct. I live in the Willamatte Valley, right down the road from the FDA Hop Research farms.
Maybe I'm reading your pronouncation wrong, but that doesn't look how I've heard it pronounced, and I live up here too. I've always heard "wuh-LAM-it".
But hey, English is a Germanic language, right?
Since tun in brewing is an English word which comes from the OE tunne, the pronunciation in the brewing idiom is pretty clear. Related to the Germanic tonne and Old Norse tunna. Pronounced the same way as the first syllable in town names as Tunbridge or Tunstall, which comes from the Anglo-Saxon root tún.
But if I remember my high-school German correctly, if the word were simply transferred to German, "toon" would be the literal pronunciation!
Bob
If thats how you spell it, then why is it said the way you describe? Is it a the English bastardization of an old French word or something?
One thing I have never understood is words that have a different pronunciation than the letters that are in them. ( I speak a few other languages, and they don't do this, unless its slang)
Worcestershire is said: Woostasha
Why not just spell it that way?
As a speaker of German I would pronounce things like this:
Saaz = sahtz
trub = troob
wort = vort
tun = toon
kräusen = kroy-zen
vorlauf = for-lowf
Reinheitsgebot = rine-heights-geh-boat (the 'geh' is normally not emphasized)
hefeweißen = heh-feh-vise-en
Hefeweizen = heh-feh-vi-tzen (the 'i' is a long i).
vorlauf = for-lowf
that W is a V peeps!!!! lol
And the V is an F then. So does that make the F become a W?
Tun as in ton...We've done that one over.
I tell my friends in the UK that they might have invented the language, but we PERFECTED IT!
Sorry Bob, but it's Tonbridge (but pronounced Tunbridge). Of course there is Tunbridge Wells, but that's about 20 miles west.
But are you really going to use English pronunciations?
Consider the following:
Trunk - pronounced boot
Hood - pronounced bonnet
diacetyl - pronounced dia Sea tle see also diacetyl definition | Dictionary.com
St John - pronounced singe un
and my favourite
Featherstonehaugh - pronounce Fanshaw
-a.
k, Got another one.
That magazine we all get...the one that starts with a Z!
I'm embarrassed to even try!
Because it's funny to hear Americans call it war sester shire.
Ive always pronounced that Wor-Chester-shire.
Somebody brought all those bloody silly names to Massachusetts. Worcester, Leicester, Leominster, Haverhill. Nobody outside the borders of Mass can pronounce those towns' names.Wuh-ster sauce. It's easier
Easy to understand the confusion though. It's a bloody silly name named after a bloody silly county.
Somebody brought all those bloody silly names to Massachusetts. Worcester, Leicester, Leominster, Haverhill. Nobody outside the borders of Mass can pronounce those towns' names.
It's Wistah, Lestah, Lemonstah and Hey-v-rull.
I tell my friends in the UK that they might have invented the language, but we PERFECTED IT!
I find it funny that ten different people pronounce these words ten different ways. Therefore I trust none of you. And since I brew alone i'll pronounce these words any darn way I please. And yes, I do talk to myself when im brewing.
Invented what language? English?
English, like Norwegian, is a Germanic language...
AFAIK, Webster placed phonetic pronunciations in American dictionaries for the sole purpose that we lose our British accents.
Might be petty, but it sure saves on ink. Those stinkin' frogs like to mess with the language, putting all kinds of unpronounced letters in words (said the guy whose last name is Daigneault).English is more than Germanic, it is bastardised between tutonic (Germanic) Latin and French
Webster removed most of the French elements (Like U in colour) to seperate US English from English English. I can understand his motives, but it still seems a bit petty to me.
Might be petty, but it sure saves on ink. Those stinkin' frogs like to mess with the language, putting all kinds of unpronounced letters in words (said the guy whose last name is Daigneault).
A quarter to anybody who can pronounce that.
Close, but no cigar.dejno?.....(soft j)
Close. It's Dicksmack.I'll try again....Dickwad? (Soft dick)
I talk to myself when I'm brewing too. Usually it's just short phrases like "You stupid ****" ...."You dopey %$#@" ...."Why the f$%^ did you do that!?" etc.
I tell my friends in the UK that they might have invented the language, but we PERFECTED IT!
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