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Since its been a few pages...

your misunderstanding what I'm saying I aid hops and barley are the main ingredients just because it's a fact they are and I didn't feel like listing every adjunct out there. I'm fine with all grain based Malts and adjusts and I'm also fine with pretty much every kind of sugar out there In fact I've been working on a molasses cookie porter for a while it's just when you add things that give beer a completely uncharacteristic flavor and also I limit myself because I have a way which I think things should be done and that's what's going to help me develop my own style I'm not against adding herbs and things to beer in fact I plan on using ginseng and other natural remedies for relaxation and stress relief, it's the people who don't even think about what they're putting in intelligently. I mean I work really hard on forming my recipes and I think every step of it out and I think just the fact that people have to ask if it's a good idea or what would happen shows that they didn't really put much thought into it.

You put way too much thought into this.
 
Well, this thread took wing.

pawn, can you move this one to Mindless Mumbling so I can repost my question about dunking your penis in the cooled wort?

I too would like to see an answer about dunking one's wenis in cooled port or something.

Oh my goodness's, of course. Moved.

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I think what we have here is a failure to communicate efficiently obviously the OP isnt a fan of punctuation and all that so it might be better to communicate using a common form so I decided to write this post in order for others to be able to read it as well but also for the OP to be able to read it because his earlier posts suggest this may be the way that hes used to reading and stuff like that I actually read a book once that had like a ton of run on sentences but I stuck with it because it was kind of interesting there was decent character development in the beginning and I thought to myself OK this is just how the writer is opening it up almost like hey this is going to be stream of consciousness for a bit because thats how he wants me to get into the characters heads but it turns out that he just wrote the whole book like that Im not sure if there was an editor involved or not but I definitely didnt think so and Ive read a whole ****load of books so I know Im smart about it at this point in my life but I also try not to get to cocky about it because this is what happens when you do and while Im mildly amused by the whole thread the fact that the OP seems to have this unjustified air of superiority within three posts on this forum and Im all for confidence but this a bit excessive to say the least which reminds me there is an autoshop place here in town called excessive auto sports and its where all the goofy tuner kids go and talk about cars all day and watch mechanics do oil changes on honda civics like its some huge deal like Oh man look at that K&N air filter my god that thing must do like 169 in third but I digress so back to what I was originally saying I kind of just hope that this thread will serve as a huge slice of humble pie but I think all of this trolling and feedback will be lost on our OP so I guess we'll probably just continue to talk about popcorn and all that but I still stand by my original thought that friggin kettle corn sucks and I could probably make better kettle corn than all of you guys if I even cared enough to try but I only pop corn by the pure popping corn standards set forth by the native americans that inhabited this land long before my forefathers showed up on ships from sweden and then had sex with a bunch of different people from a bunch of different origins and now I just dont know what the hell I am but I usually tell people Im an American because thats the best way I know to describe it so thats pretty much it in a nutshell.
 
I feel as though I robbed the people by not sharing what my Cracker Jack prize was...

A San Diego Padres Baseball Club sticker...
 
Between this thread and "please delete" I can't remember the last time I said anything intelligent...:eek:

wish I could say that about my contributions to other threads besides just those 2

I was going to say "your" contributions, but I much prefer self-deprecating comments.
 
Here is my takeaway from your post and most notably, this part I quoted, you're a new brewer who is gung-ho. We've all been there and we are likely still there, exception being some of us aren't incredibly new to the hobby. You read some books then suddenly people lacked experience in your eyes. You even mentioned that someone had never read a book on brewing. In truth, I know brewers who are amazing and they've never read a brewing book either. I will tell you that I am not one to defend BA, but at the same time I will defend the members as many of them have a vast amount of knowledge about home brewing. Just like this place, people are going to ask questions that may sound stupid to you, but they're not stupid. You read a few books, it hardly makes you the guy who should be deciding that essentially the entire community has virtually no experience. You don't know that. Looks like you had a run in with a couple of members, tops, that perhaps didn't agree with your assessment on some things. So what? This is the internet and in this hobby, opinions do vary from time to time.



Well keep reading your books please. Hard root beer is not outlandish. People have been making it for a long while and some have even made it with grain instead of just adjuncts. There's an entire thread on it right here at HBT. Whisky in beer? Why is that ridiculous? Seriously, you're kidding, right? Peppers? They're pretty damn popular these days, especially in stouts and porters. Ketchup, I want to say gross, but then again that Old Bay beer isn't actually horrid. It's not my thing, but it isn't horrid.

So I googled and I found that ketchup thread. You voice your opinion, "you cant make beer with ketchup, that is I refuse to accept it as beer at that point its a bloody mary" and that's cool. Like I said, we all have our opinions. But then I came across threads that completely contradict your entire assessment of BA being full of people who have virtually no experience.

A helpful thread:
http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/how-much-to-use.288666/
A thread where I don't see odd ideas...except maybe your original post because I didn't see the point of the effort it would take:
http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/floating-siphon.288894/
A thread where you were the instigator in derailing a thread where someone had a valid question (good work):
http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/gypsum-or-chalk-for-upping-calcium-in-a-tripel.289001/
A very welcoming thread:
http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/newer-home-brewer.288375/

So what's the point? The point is that it appears to me that perhaps you had some varied opinions that weren't well received and instead of just ignoring those who decided to try odd things in their beer, you got all rowdy and started the fermenting baby thread.

I want to give you a heads up, you will find threads here where people will debate certain things, people will ask about putting things in their beer that I find odd, people will ask if you can harvest wild yeast off a cat, and people will be helpful and welcoming. In fact, in terms of home brewing, this place is like a giant BA. BA's larger audience is discussing commercial beers from what I gathered. I could be wrong, but still, the threads they have on home brewing do not tell me that there is a lack of experience there. You were trolling. You got banned for trolling, as you know. I assume the same would happen here if you lose your cool and act the same.

So breathe. RDWHAHB and welcome back to HBT.


No, our bodies are mostly water.


I'm not gung-ho btw that implies that I get in over my head without thinking and it's not like I quickly skimmed through those books I read it over multiple times until I fully understood the application of the words and I could tell you exactly the role of farnesene humulene, Mycene, and caryophyllene so no I'm not like most Brewers I actually want to understand every aspect of the process on a molecular level
 
I'm not gung-ho btw that implies that I get in over my head without thinking and it's not like I quickly skimmed through those books I read it over multiple times until I fully understood the application of the words and I could tell you exactly the role of farnesene humulene, Mycene, and caryophyllene so no I'm not like most Brewers I actually want to understand every aspect of the process on a molecular level

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It's a code! You have to read every fourth word to decipher. It starts as "I have failure obviously..."

"I have failure obviously a and it to common decided post others to well the able because suggest the used stuff actually once a on stuck it interesting character beginning to is writer up this be for thats me the it he whole Im there involved I so a books Im at my also get it what do mildly whole that to..."

I don't get it
 
"I have failure obviously a and it to common decided post others to well the able because suggest the used stuff actually once a on stuck it interesting character beginning to is writer up this be for thats me the it he whole Im there involved I so a books Im at my also get it what do mildly whole that to..."

This made my head hurt
 
I'm not gung-ho btw that implies that I get in over my head without thinking and it's not like I quickly skimmed through those books I read it over multiple times until I fully understood the application of the words and I could tell you exactly the role of farnesene humulene, Mycene, and caryophyllene so no I'm not like most Brewers I actually want to understand every aspect of the process on a molecular level

There is a line between reading and application that exists though. Someone out of college who read about how to build a house, and knows about a bunch of minute details in the process, probably isn't going to be as good as someone who has been doing it for years.
 

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