how does yeast effect the beer Flavor ?

[joe2004]

I have heard that yeast can change the flavor of beer.

1 So how does it change the flavor ? what makes it change ?

2 if you have the same beer same ingredients for a beer but with 2 different YEAST you get two different beer ?

is there a list of Yeast for the types of beer say ales or stout etc...

thanks

 

[Golddiggie]

1. It depends on the yeast you use. It also depends on the temperature it ferments at. This information is typically available on the yeast manufacturer/lab site.
2. Yes

For what strains for a stout, you can look on the Wyeast page in the 'Stout' listing and look over their offerings. Most other yeast labs will also list what their strains are suitable for. That same page lists most (or all the recognized) styles of beers and then you'll see what strains are good for them. You can always use something else, but results can be different from what you wanted.

 

[tre9er]

I have heard that yeast can change the flavor of beer.

1 So how does it change the flavor ? what makes it change ?

2 if you have the same beer same ingredients for a beer but with 2 different YEAST you get two different beer ?

is there a list of Yeast for the types of beer say ales or stout etc...

thanks

1. some yeasts give their own flavors to the beer even when fermented in their optimal temp range, such as fruity flavors (can be hard to detect at first, but you'll taste a difference between same beer on two different yeasts), spice/clove flavors, etc.

2. Depends on which strains you use. If you used WLP001 (California Ale) in one batch and WLP500 (Belgian Trappist) there would be a HUGE difference in the beer, not even the same "beer" really.

 

[mcbaumannerb]

The yeast by nature will bring out different flavors, but the temperature of the fermentation also has a big impact on the end product.

Here is a list of Wyeast yeast profiles

Here is a list of White Labs yeast profiles

As for the affects of temperature, there are many and varied. I'd suggest looking over the Fermentation & Yeast board on here.

 

[joe2004]

wow this is more complex then i thought it was. So many different Hopps, Grains, Yeast

how does one make something that they like. Is there a Formula or a guide that you can look at or say a Computer program that's got all these listed and the types of beers you want to make ?

im trying to see if i can make a Belgian ale

something close to this style of beer that i like

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/4/448

thanks guys

 

[Golddiggie]

wow this is more complex then i thought it was. So many different Hopps, Grains, Yeast

how does one make something that they like. Is there a Formula or a guide that you can look at or say a Computer program that's got all these listed and the types of beers you want to make ?

im trying to see if i can make a Belgian ale

something close to this style of beer that i like

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/4/448

thanks guys

BeerSmith

 

[mcbaumannerb]

wow this is more complex then i thought it was. So many different Hopps, Grains, Yeast

how does one make something that they like. Is there a Formula or a guide that you can look at or say a Computer program that's got all these listed and the types of beers you want to make ?

im trying to see if i can make a Belgian ale

something close to this style of beer that i like

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/4/448

thanks guys

If you'd rather try a recipe that has been tried & true you could just look at Belgian Ale recipes on here!

 

[MichaelBrock]

Your best bet is probably to start with tried and true recipes for the style of beer you want to make. Once you have the experience to know what difference the yeast, fermentation temperature, hops, etc. makes to the final product you will feel more comfortable switching things up. Have a look at the recipes section of this site. Plenty of great recipes. Another great source is the book BCS. And I second the vote for Beersmith!

Edited: yeah, what mcbaumannerb said!

 

[duboman]

Ray Daniels has written a book called "Designing Great Beers" and goes into all aspects of recipe development as well as the typical ingredients and their percentages for each BJCP style. Yes, designing recipes can be complex until you gain a better understanding of all the ingredients associated and the yeasts used.

As mentioned, the previous sites are a great reference for shopping yeast strains and what they do and yes, you can create two identical recipes, pitch two different strains of yeast and get two totally different beers, even two different styles?

A great way to learn about things is doing small batches of SMaSH recipes-Single Malt, Single Hop

 

[helibrewer]

wow this is more complex then i thought it was. So many different Hopps, Grains, Yeast

how does one make something that they like. Is there a Formula or a guide that you can look at or say a Computer program that's got all these listed and the types of beers you want to make ?

im trying to see if i can make a Belgian ale

something close to this style of beer that i like

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/4/448

thanks guys

You might grab a copy of Brewing Classic Styles. It has 80 award winning recipes representing each beer category...Written by Jamil J. The recipes are extract and all grain with great guidance.

 

[Golddiggie]

Designing Great Beers is another solid book.

There are also clone books, and recipes, all over the place.

 

[tre9er]

The belgian beers are ALL about the yeast. I made a SMaSH (Single Malt and Single Hop) belgian blonde that was fantastic. Looked like a Budweiser in color, tasted nothing like it. Had all of the spicy, fruity notes of the yeast that a belgian should have. I chose Nugget hops because they are my go-to hop for fairly neutral, pleasing flavor/aroma.

 

[duboman]

The belgian beers are ALL about the yeast. I made a SMaSH (Single Malt and Single Hop) belgian blonde that was fantastic. Looked like a Budweiser in color, tasted nothing like it. Had all of the spicy, fruity notes of the yeast that a belgian should have. I chose Nugget hops because they are my go-to hop for fairly neutral, pleasing flavor/aroma.

This sounds like a great beer, can you post or PM me the recipe?

 

[tre9er]

This sounds like a great beer, can you post or PM me the recipe?

All pale ale malt, all nugget hops, WLP500. I think I posted it in a recent thread. Search posts by me with "belgian blonde"