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[marcb]

Is that the filter/strainer from brewers hardware on your boil kettle?

Yes, I can't recommend that specific product from them (I can recommend lots of other stuff I source from there and tons of great advice/info) it's simply too big of a pain in the ass to clean.... I do not use an internal filter, just the perforated inner body and I'm already filtering out the hops....




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[marcb]

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[SavoryChef]

Cool thanks

 

[marcb]

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[marcb]

Lb of whole hops at flameout!


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[marcb]

The twins settled down with Amarillo Pale on the left and Saison De Casper on the right!


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[pickles]

How does your stainless CFC perform compared to the plate chiller?

 

[marcb]

How does your stainless CFC perform compared to the plate chiller?

The CFCs are for a hex setup only so they don't get used for cooling wort except for 1/2bbl pilots or starters and frankly I don't think they are that efficient for even that. I like my plate chillers and will soon be upgrading to a larger plate and frame dual stage chiller shortly for the brewery!



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[marcb]

Next day, finishing cleanup. Strip and soak all the valves. Tear everything apart, clean and rebuild! Rockin! Great brewday with a great crew. Fermenters are happily bubbling away!


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[SavoryChef]

That's a lot of fittings

 

[marcb]

That's a lot of fittings

Most of what was used yesterday, to run both breweries on one day we need dupes of lots of fittings. There were other fittings that were already stripped, cleaned and returned to place. As they say, 90 percent of brewing is cleaning and sanitizing!


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[SavoryChef]

Yes I agree. I feel like my hobby is a part time job cleaning kegs, conicals, carboys etc etc

 

[Carlscan26]

The CFCs are for a hex setup only so they don't get used for cooling wort except for 1/2bbl pilots or starters and frankly I don't think they are that efficient for even that. I like my plate chillers and will soon be upgrading to a larger plate and frame dual stage chiller shortly for the brewery!
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SS sucks for thermal conductivity - it's 1/24 that of copper.

Looking forward to pics of that dual stager!



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[Travestian]

SS sucks for thermal conductivity - it's 1/24 that of copper.

Actually the heat transfer coefficient of stainless steel for our purposes is much closer to about 90% of copper, but it depends on the medium being cooled/heated. For our application of water to wort or glycol to wort 90% is about what you will see.

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/overall-heat-transfer-coefficients-d_284.html

 

[marcb]

Actually the heat transfer coefficient of stainless steel for our purposes is much closer to about 90% of copper, but it depends on the medium being cooled/heated. For our application of water to wort or glycol to wort 90% is about what you will see.

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/overall-heat-transfer-coefficients-d_284.html

The other factor here is the convoluted component and it's effect on cooling. I've used copper and stainless and my experience is that the copper convoluted chiller exchanges heat far better than my current stainless convoluted ones which wastes more cooling water. My presumption is that the softer copper twists easier/more and that turbulence helps the contact for heat exchange somehow.


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[Carlscan26]

Actually the heat transfer coefficient of stainless steel for our purposes is much closer to about 90% of copper, but it depends on the medium being cooled/heated. For our application of water to wort or glycol to wort 90% is about what you will see.

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/overall-heat-transfer-coefficients-d_284.html

So not to be argumentative or to derail this thread too far, but the table listed is for practically still fluids. That's totally different than fluids in motion. Anyway, we all agree SS is not as efficient as copper right?



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[Dog House Brew]

Every time I read this thread it makes me want to brew BDSA. I've never brewed one, but it is up next. I guess 530 is your favorite for the style? What an awesome journey.

 

[marcb]

Our BDSA at 6 months old took first!


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[djevans3]

Amazingly awesome thread and congrats on going pro. Being a small 5-10g brewer, I can't conceive how you make starters as big as my batches of beer. Can you to shed any insight? I'm doubting you have a massive stir plate running somewhere...

 

[brewman !]

Actually the heat transfer coefficient of stainless steel for our purposes is much closer to about 90% of copper, but it depends on the medium being cooled/heated. For our application of water to wort or glycol to wort 90% is about what you will see.

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/overall-heat-transfer-coefficients-d_284.html

FYI, the thermal conductivity of SS is much less than that of steel. You can't compare the thermal conductivity of SS to copper by using mild steel.

 

[sablesurfer]

Getting ready for a brew day Sunday but these stupid beers keep letting in the way...

Just reading through the entire thread over last couple of days. Everything was wonderful....until this post.

NOW....jealousy sets in.

 

[ClaudiusB]

Our BDSA at 6 months old took first!View attachment 188838


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Congratulation!

 

[marcb]

Congratulation!

Thanks, it wouldn't have happened without Chamuco (Chad) though--- he forced me to enter it, he even came over to the house to bottle it : ) Chad's saison also placed first....

We tasted it head to head with Westy12 at the end of our brew day sunday and at 6 months its getting close.

 

[marcb]

Amazingly awesome thread and congrats on going pro. Being a small 5-10g brewer, I can't conceive how you make starters as big as my batches of beer. Can you to shed any insight? I'm doubting you have a massive stir plate running somewhere...

Just like all other brewing gear, starter stuff gets bigger too. I do have a pretty massive stir plate but that only got me to 2g starters. We've tried carboys and kettles and they have worked ok. Recently I acquired one of these used here on HBT.

Which is the basis (more or less) of a white labs ferm flask. This will allow us to grow nice big healthy starters and push them into the fermenter with co2 instead of two of us juggling a 10g kettle over our heads....



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[brewman !]

Coincidentally, I am welding triclamp ports onto kegs for my fermenters. Is that a 4 inch or 6 inch port ?

Have you used it yet ? How do you like it ?

 

[marcb]

Coincidentally, I am welding triclamp ports onto kegs for my fermenters. Is that a 4 inch or 6 inch port ?



Have you used it yet ? How do you like it ?

It's a 4" tri clover. I have not used this one yet but have used similar set ups in the past and they work great.


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[ChocolateMaltyBalls]

This may be a stupid question, but what type of fittings are on that TC cap? Is one gas and one liquid?


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[Carlscan26]

So what's the process with one of those?


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[brewman !]

It's a 4" tri clover. I have not used this one yet but have used similar set ups in the past and they work great.

Glad to hear that. Thanks for the feedback.

Funny to think that your yeast starter is the same size as my batch. Actually, I'll be fermenting in 1/4 barrel slim kegs and 1/2 barrel kegs and your starters appear to be 1/2 barrel kegs, so some of my batches will be half the size of your starters ! That puts the scale in perspective !