Home Brew speech criticism

[thebluewaffle]

It doesn't have to contain hops to legally be called beer. Some,like gruits,use herbs & whatnot to bitter with. Hops came in later,beginning in England they claim. Also,fermenting beer pre-dates leavened bread by 3,000 years,according to new findings. We settled down into villages & cities to have more time to grow grains to make beer. And as was stated,even in Europe they found you drink the water,you get sick. If you drink the beer you were fine. It's all in the boiling & sealing the finished beer in kegs,etc. The hops just keep the beer from spoiling as quickly. They seem to work hand in hand with the alcohol in this respect.

Your right, it was the German purity law, but it has since been repealed.

 

[unionrdr]

Well,they came up with that law because too many German brewers up to 1516 were using many things to flavor/bitter the beer that they were beginning to take the place of the normal fermentables to make more beer to sell or trade. Some were said to be ,well...nasty,others would make yo sick or worse. That law was intended to protect them from themselves.
But gruits are a legitimate style of brewing nowadays,as the precursor to what we now know as beer.

 

[gstrawn]

I dont think so.
Statute

United States Code of Federal Regulations Title 27, Part 25, Subpart L, Section 25.205 and Section 25.206
Beer For Personal or Family Use
(a) Any adult may produce beer, without payment of tax, for personal or family use and not for sale. An adult is any individual who is 18 years of age or older. If the locality in which the household is located requires a greater minimum age for the sale of beer to individuals, the adult shall be that age before commencing the production of beer. This exemption does not authorize the production of beer for use contrary to State or local law.

I think we're looking over the part that says if the location in which the house is located requires a greater age for sale then the "adult" must be that age. Although I'm all with you blue waffle. I must confess I'm not of age by much, certainly not longer than my brewing experience.

 

[BlackJaqueJanaviac]

I think keeping the underage drinking thing out is good. I can just see homebrewing becoming a fad in dorms.

• Then the police make raids.
• Newspapers run front-page stories.
• Politicians decide it is their job to solve this "problem".
• Politicians use the only tool they know how to use and give us MORE laws.
• Pretty soon LHBS find it rediculously cumbersome to comply with said laws.
• 1/2 the LHBS close.
• Now it is twice the distance to LHBS and they can charge twice as much.

Anarchy is no government; freedom is SELF-government.

 

[NWMOBrewer]

For the record, I think buying homebrew supplies and ingredients is legal for all ages, there is no alcohol. Not making alcohol is up to the person, not the LHBS owner. Thats why shipping brew stuff does not need adult to sign, anyone can sign.

 

[NWMOBrewer]

Also, I am doing a similar speech. I also need to write a persuasive speech if anyone can help with topics? Thanks.


Please excuse the tread hijacking. Homebrew speeches are awesome. Ha ha

 

[JonM]

For the record, I think buying homebrew supplies and ingredients is legal for all ages, there is no alcohol. Not making alcohol is up to the person, not the LHBS owner. Thats why shipping brew stuff does not need adult to sign, anyone can sign.

Yeah, but some reporter does a story about it, sensationalized as all get out, about how "anyone, including teenagers, can make as much alcohol as they can drink, and it's all perfectly legal - maybe your teen is fermenting beer right now ..." complete with photos of the LHBS and names of online retailers.

Goodbye "buying homebrew supplies and ingredients is legal for all ages," hello onerous regulations that drive up the costs or drive retailers out of town. No thanks.

 

[huge1s]

Also, I am doing a similar speech. I also need to write a persuasive speech if anyone can help with topics? Thanks.


Please excuse the tread hijacking. Homebrew speeches are awesome. Ha ha

If your speech is supposed to be persuasive/argumentative, just argue the point that homebrew saves you money

 

[sweenbeen]

I dont think so.
Statute

United States Code of Federal Regulations Title 27, Part 25, Subpart L, Section 25.205 and Section 25.206
Beer For Personal or Family Use
(a) Any adult may produce beer, without payment of tax, for personal or family use and not for sale. An adult is any individual who is 18 years of age or older. If the locality in which the household is located requires a greater minimum age for the sale of beer to individuals, the adult shall be that age before commencing the production of beer. This exemption does not authorize the production of beer for use contrary to State or local law.

The federal government has a legal drinking age old 18 years old but specifies the state government has the right to levy a different drinking restriction. They enforce this law by restricting transportation fundingcan to the states if the drinking age is below 21. Do a little more research when you cite federal laws. You must look deeper than just a simple google search.

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[NWMOBrewer]

The federal government has a legal drinking age old 18 years old but specifies the state government has the right to levy a different drinking restriction. They enforce this law by restricting transportation fundingcan to the states if the drinking age is below 21. Do a little more research when you cite federal laws. You must look deeper than just a simple google search.

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MO is considering of lowering the age back to 18, supported by many college presidents. They would raise liquor tax to offset lost funds.

 

[sweenbeen]

MO is considering of lowering the age back to 18, supported by many college presidents. They would raise liquor tax to offset lost funds.

Good luck offsetting the hundreds of millions of dollars just by raising the liquor tax. That would not even work. Optimistic but not logical. Not to mention the majority of tax paying citizens would not support paying more just so kids 18-20 can drink.... don't to argue or debate though... its getting off topic.

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[Dogphish]

you should give a speech on the blue waffle instead.

 

[E-Mursed]

I would just tell them about your reason for getting into brewing, how a simple extract beer is made, what ingredients are in a beer, and how simple it is to do.

You can use visual aids such as pictures of your brewing equipment, bring in some ingredients, even some of your equipment. Keep it simple and make it a basic overview.

For the paranoids, make an aside at the end that you are not advocating drinking under age, but that as a resourceful person, you can easily craft your own beer. The Q&A is a great place to eat up time and expand on areas that the audience is interested in and prevents you from droning on about minute details that may bore your audience.

 

[NWMOBrewer]

I will have already done an informative speech like what the op is doing. I am just a little confused on making it persusuave. I have approved the topic with the professor. I plan on having some equipment as aids. And no Q&A. thanks all for ideas. The professor suggested arguing for loosening the laws, lol

Was just trying to mention something that almost made the ballot in 08. (was a few weeks late to get on ballot)

 

[TheBrewAbides]

Home brewing isn't a very good topic to use for a persuasive speech. What are you going to persuade people into thinking? Extract brewing is better than all grain? Fly sparging is better than batch sparging? Getting into whether drinking laws should be changed doesn't have much to do with hombrewing.

 

[NWMOBrewer]

Home brewing isn't a very good topic to use for a persuasive speech. What are you going to persuade people into thinking? Extract brewing is better than all grain? Fly sparging is better than batch sparging? Getting into whether drinking laws should be changed doesn't have much to do with hombrewing.

Yeah, I have been thinking that. I was kind of hoping someone here would have an idea I hadn't thought of yet. I don't want to change my informative topic, so I'll need to find something close. Again, Thanks for all the help you have tried to give me, and to the OP. Students greatly appreciate help!!