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Any idea when this'll be open? I'm staying in Stowe for a weekend in late July and this would be awesome.

No idea.
I drove by yesterday and there was new exterior paint and a stacks of decking lumber. Hard to tell from their website or FB pages.

*not in b4 Os
 
from what I understand "ferulic acid rest" is generally used to get more "clove" flavor out of wheat... anyone else know more?

haven't ever really read of a brewer doing this rest outside of hefe brewing.

I read it as they are looking to get a little bit more phenolic flavor out of the wheat in the grist. In combination with a new yeast blend that makes sense to me.

That said, clove is never something I have tasted in Florence.
 
haven't ever really read of a brewer doing this rest outside of hefe brewing.

I read it as they are looking to get a little bit more phenolic flavor out of the wheat in the grist. In combination with a new yeast blend that makes sense to me.

That said, clove is never something I have tasted in Florence.

I'm really curious as to what he's looking to add... I love Florence
 
all the clove references I see are referring to hefe-yeast, which makes sense.

I suppose some belgian yeasts could also give off that flavor but it isn't something I've ever thought I've tasted in any HF beer. I'm curious to taste once it comes out as well
 
I've done some lambic-inspired beers that effectively have a ferulic acid rest (in the sense that there's a rest at that temperature), but I've never noticed any clove-related phenols. Of course anything that was there could have been broken down by the brett and other factors over the extended aging.
 
I heard a cheese maker in WI use the term Farmstead Cheese in a commercial for there cheese
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I heard a cheese maker in WI use the term Farmstead Cheese in a commercial for there cheese

Farmstead cheese is a classification of cheese that's produced on the farm that the milk comes from. Ironically, HF wouldn't even meet that definition and would fall under the less strict "artisinal" classification.
 
Farmstead cheese is a classification of cheese that's produced on the farm that the milk comes from. Ironically, HF wouldn't even meet that definition and would fall under the less strict "artisinal" classification.


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No, but srs I think Gene suggested it may do more harm for them than good. I don't care much about stuff until it ruffles my anti capitalist feels and aspects of the trademarking stuff has me more thinking huh? but I probably wouldn't have noticed it on the bottle. If it showed up on taplists I'd probably start to feel pissy.

#coolstory
 
my understanding is that the ferulic acid rest creates some clove like compounds (can't remember the scientific name) that the brett/bacteria can then further break down into other compounds... or something like that

Because this all got me curious yesterday, the ferulic acid rest releases ferulic acid into the wort from the malt. Some yeast strains, most notably hefe yeasts, can convert the acid into 4-vinyl guaiacol, which is the source of the clove phenol. I'm guessing that, like you said, Shaun wants to see what his house culture will then break down and turn the 4-vinyl guaiacol into.
 
on to more interesting topics:

Variation of Florence today-experimenting with a different yeast blend, ferulic acid rest, modified hopping. Stainless. Bottles late July.
Was it announced that Florence was broken? I didn't hear that Florence was broken. It didn't taste like it was broken...(Please don't fix it...)
 
Was it announced that Florence was broken? I didn't hear that Florence was broken. It didn't taste like it was broken...(Please don't fix it...)

I'd assume "variation" means it's a different beer and not a "new Florence"
 
Flo was a woman who saved me a bunch of money on my car insurance. In her honor we craft this Wheat Farmstead Ale using only the most progressive of brewing techniques.

I normally don't go for these, but did enjoy this one.

Do you think pilot batches get placeholder names like 3rd cousins and uncles by marriage and whatnot?
 
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