Help Wanted: Boneyard RPM IPA Clone Recipe

[revansCAAD8]

I will be sometime in the next month. I'll post when i get it formulated

Any updates?

 

[kigerbrewing]

I've bought a few pints and a growler of RPM at a number of different places recently. It definitely tastes different from when I first tried it over a year ago. It did not have much body and almost no lacing on the glass. It was still good, just not great like I thought it was when I first tried it. I really wish there was a recipe for the original formula.

 

[Steadfast707]

Thank you for the work you've done so far RPM is hands down my favourite beer and we live 10 hours away from Bend so I don't get it often. If I can make something even remotely like RPM I would be exceedingly happy!

 

[100million]

Tim
Did you figure out RPM.... I got some good ideas

 

[kigerbrewing]

Tim
Did you figure out RPM.... I got some good ideas

Please share!

 

[brnooewb]

Boneyard RPM is now available in a kit from brewcraft. Similar to some of the rogue ales.

 

[oldschool]

It's been a year since I had any but if it helps this late in the game I can give you ABV, OG, FG, AE, RE, color, and perceived IBU. So long as someone can send a growler plus the amount needed to perform the analysis.

 

[100million]

6 gallons

11lb 2 row
8 oz aromatic
8oz munich
4oz crystal 20
1.6oz acid
.3 black pat

This is a GREAT GRAIN BILL

 

[jammin]

6 gallons

11lb 2 row
8 oz aromatic
8oz munich
4oz crystal 20
1.6oz acid
.3 black pat

This is a GREAT GRAIN BILL

how did you get that?

 

[doublebogey10]

6 gallons



11lb 2 row

8 oz aromatic

8oz munich

4oz crystal 20

1.6oz acid

.3 black pat



This is a GREAT GRAIN BILL

If that's the grain bill, cool.
But what is the hop schedule?





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[bela]

They do have kits out but there not much help. The grain is all bagged up and the hop are listed as 1 2 3 and 4. So you know when to put them in but you don't know what's in each bag.

 

[bela]

6 gallons

11lb 2 row
8 oz aromatic
8oz munich
4oz crystal 20
1.6oz acid
.3 black pat

This is a GREAT GRAIN BILL

This may be a great grain bill but I don't think its RPM. I tried it this weekend, way to dark.

 

[skibb]

yeah and there's no sugar in it...

 

[100million]

how did you get that?

If that's the grain bill, cool.
But what is the hop schedule?

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Do your research it is not hard to figure out.... this recipe is all about very little BITTER and Huge nose and hop flavor.... how do you get that in a Beer?

Read the instructions on how do they make the box RPM it has the grain bill instruction.

They do have kits out but there not much help. The grain is all bagged up and the hop are listed as 1 2 3 and 4. So you know when to put them in but you don't know what's in each bag.

That kit tells you a lot... Example.... When it shows you a small bag or hops to put in at FW and 2 large bags one for WP and the other for DH... you learn a lot.... What kind of hops go in at FW? WP? DH? not what name but kind? listen to Tony's Video and why he uses 5-6 different hops..... Call or email praising Boneyard and ask what hops go in it.... they will tell you but not how to.....then think about the hops they told you and put then puzzle together

This may be a great grain bill but I don't think its RPM. I tried it this weekend, way to dark.

This color is 7.9 SRM with 6 gallon batch 7.9 pre boil.... and that is way to DARK????

yeah and there's no sugar in it...

Watch Tony's Video he always adds Dextrose and I would think 10%

Plug this in to brew smith and tell me what you get.....

I hope this helps

 

[bela]

100 million, I tried your grain bill and my color was 15.3 with .9 black patent. 15 gallon batch. I minus the black patent from beer smith and got 7.8. I think somehow I messed up on to much black patent. After looking over a kit at our brew store it does give a lot of clues. Most hops going in at wp.

 

[jammin]

Do your research it is not hard to figure out.... this recipe is all about very little BITTER and Huge nose and hop flavor.... how do you get that in a Beer?


This color is 7.9 SRM with 6 gallon batch 7.9 pre boil.... and that is way to DARK????

smh

we wanted a source, not common brewing knowledge.

and yes, 7.9 IS way too dark for RPM. have you even had it before?

you shouldn't go spouting off information/guidance in threads like this if you don't have solid information. it can confuse new brewers and water down a thread making it difficult for people to get good info (what makes this site amazing). you should consider deleting your post(s) as they are flat out misleading

case in point...

100 million, I tried your grain bill and my color was 15.3 with .9 black patent. 15 gallon batch. I minus the black patent from beer smith and got 7.8. I think somehow I messed up on to much black patent. After looking over a kit at our brew store it does give a lot of clues. Most hops going in at wp.

thats a shame.

ive spoken with Tyler Brown of Barley Browns. he recently did a collab with Boneyard and talked about their hopping routine on RPM. He said he can't remember the batch size, but they only add 1 lb of bittering hops at beginning of boil - they load it up during whirlpool after that.

 

[johnmac22]

smh

we wanted a source, not common brewing knowledge.

and yes, 7.9 IS way too dark for RPM. have you even had it before?

you shouldn't go spouting off information/guidance in threads like this if you don't have solid information. it can confuse new brewers and water down a thread making it difficult for people to get good info (what makes this site amazing). you should consider deleting your post(s) as they are flat out misleading

case in point...



thats a shame.

ive spoken with Tyler Brown of Barley Browns. he recently did a collab with Boneyard and talked about their hopping routine on RPM. He said he can't remember the batch size, but they only add 1 lb of bittering hops at beginning of boil - they load it up during whirlpool after that.

+1. Far too dark for RPM. I can attest to Tyler having said this about Boneyard and how they hop RPM.

 

[bela]

I think 100million is just trying to help. According to beersmith 7.9 looks about right for rpm. I think I messed up on to much black patent.

I think his sources from the video, maybe a call or email plus the rpm kit itself are pretty good sources! The grain bill is probably pretty darn close. And the hop schedule is a huge plus. And we know the hops they use. I think were getting close!

 

[100million]

100 million, I tried your grain bill and my color was 15.3 with .9 black patent. 15 gallon batch. I minus the black patent from beer smith and got 7.8. I think somehow I messed up on to much black patent. After looking over a kit at our brew store it does give a lot of clues. Most hops going in at wp.

Here is a screen shot of my SRM

This is a 6 gallon batch and start with 7.9 gallons in boil

This isn't my first rodeo....

you must be plugging in something wrong in brewsmith
you more then likely added 9 oz of black pat instead of .9 oz for 15 gallon

If I plug in 3 oz in my brew smith it is 14.6 SRM

t is .3 oz or .02lb for 7.9 SRM

and I love how you went to the brew store and learned something about the hop addition.

now go weigh each bag and you will have another story or piece to the puzzle....

 

[100million]

smh

we wanted a source, not common brewing knowledge.

and yes, 7.9 IS way too dark for RPM. have you even had it before?

you shouldn't go spouting off information/guidance in threads like this if you don't have solid information. it can confuse new brewers and water down a thread making it difficult for people to get good info (what makes this site amazing). you should consider deleting your post(s) as they are flat out misleading

case in point...



thats a shame.

ive spoken with Tyler Brown of Barley Browns. he recently did a collab with Boneyard and talked about their hopping routine on RPM. He said he can't remember the batch size, but they only add 1 lb of bittering hops at beginning of boil - they load it up during whirlpool after that.

Jammin

plug in the #'s in a brewsmith you will see bela is wrong on his comment

Ask Tyler Brown what SRM is is RPM

and about your info about the hop addition at Beginning boil and load up on whirlpool ... you are 100% right.

and have I had it..... YES :rockin::rockin::rockin:

 

[doublebogey10]

6 gallons

11lb 2 row
8 oz aromatic
8oz munich
4oz crystal 20
1.6oz acid
.3 black pat

This is a GREAT GRAIN BILL

Have never used acid malt. Read that it is sometimes used to adjust pH.
I use gypsum in my IPAs and Pales ... should I not do that in this if using acid malt?
Also, straight american 2-row or is something like MO or Golden Promise a thought?

 

[divrguy]

Anyone get a close clone to this yet? Just tried it and its outstanding!

 

[hopsAndJumps]

In the kit from brewcraft the hop scehdule for 5 gallons is pasted below.

A ginormus whirlpool addition and a very modest dry hop.

.29 oz Hop Pellets for First Wort Hopping
1.21 oz Hop Pellets for Flavor and Aroma
5.87 oz Hop Pellets for Steeping
.8 oz Hop Pellets for Dry Hopping

 

[divrguy]

1.21 at what time (5,10,15)?
5.87 steeping? Whirlpool, flameout?

 

[doublebogey10]

Anyone get a close clone to this yet? Just tried it and its outstanding!

I have no real or inside information. But if you love RPM, which I very much do, I'd suggest using the grain bill provided by 100 Million and try some of the suggested hop schedules on this thread. It might not get you a clone, per se, but I think it's going to get you in the ballpark.
I've made a couple of batches under that concept. My preference is citra early and bravo late (along with more Cs like cascade, centennial, columbus and chinook). Also, an English Ale yeast.
Honestly, I don't think you can "clone" this beer because I believe Boneyard switches the hops based on supply and availability. I could be wrong, but that's what I think.
But I also don't know that you should worry about trying to clone it. When I stopped trying to figure it out and just made a made a beer along these lines, I was very pleasantly surprised.
Sometimes, "inspired by" is better than a clone.

 

[100million]

1.21 at what time (5,10,15)?
5.87 steeping? Whirlpool, flameout?

1.21 Fo
5.87 WP

 

[100million]

I have no real or inside information. But if you love RPM, which I very much do, I'd suggest using the grain bill provided by 100 Million and try some of the suggested hop schedules on this thread. It might not get you a clone, per se, but I think it's going to get you in the ballpark.
I've made a couple of batches under that concept. My preference is citra early and bravo late (along with more Cs like cascade, centennial, columbus and chinook). Also, an English Ale yeast.
Honestly, I don't think you can "clone" this beer because I believe Boneyard switches the hops based on supply and availability. I could be wrong, but that's what I think.
But I also don't know that you should worry about trying to clone it. When I stopped trying to figure it out and just made a made a beer along these lines, I was very pleasantly surprised.
Sometimes, "inspired by" is better than a clone.

Perfect comment

Bravo at FW help bitter.....

Then threw in the kitchen sink (hops and hops and more hops) for the rest of the time, and then some ............

 

[100million]

Have never used acid malt. Read that it is sometimes used to adjust pH.
I use gypsum in my IPAs and Pales ... should I not do that in this if using acid malt?
Also, straight american 2-row or is something like MO or Golden Promise a thought?

most wort likes to be about 5.5 ph

I personal think gypsum is more for bring out the flavor of the hop in ipa and hoppy beers versa lowering ph......

I never use gypsum in my porters stouts reds etc..... the beers with little hops compared to IPA's

ALL commercial brewers use 2 row for base malt for there main beer they make...... All silo's are full of 2 row........

 

[therackman]

Any updates to cloning RPM? Seems like a few have tried. Has anyone had success on this yet? Cheers!

 

[divrguy]

Inquiring minds would like to know!