American Wheat Beer Gumballhead inspired WPA

[lawnboybrew]

I'm sure I mentioned the sweet breadiness somewhere when describing this beer. Bottles never stayed around long enough for me to see if it faded. It is a desired character in the beer and IMO compliments the hops. Sounds like it came out as intended.

I will begin drinking. Thanks a lot. Good stuff on my first beer in over four years. Going to try the ag recipe above next.

 

[wowbeeryum]

Shoot for an IBU count in the mid-twenties, just enough to balance the sweetness. It's all about the hop flavor and aroma with this one. As for hop subs. I really feel the Simarillo dry hop combo is what makes this beer. Other hops would work and probably result in good beers but I would be hesitant to suggest anything. YMMV

quick update. i brewed a variation of this 2.5 weeks ago and bottled last night. gravity samples were great and aroma is amazing. recipe i used: http://hopville.com/recipe/1436437/american-pale-ale-recipes/wpa

i dry hopped with citra instead of simcoe and use kolsch yeast. can't wait until they are carbed up.

 

[lawnboybrew]

This beer only gets better and clearer as time goes by. Brewing this again in the coming days. This time I will not be too anxious to drink. I will try the dental floss tied hop bag in the keg this time. Found that keg co2 level was best around 8-9 psi.

Anyone know if dry hopping harms a beer if done for an extended time?

EDIT DUE TO ENGLISH TEACHER IN ME.

 

[D_Ranged_Eskimo]

This beer only gets better and clearer as time goes by. Brewing this again in the coming days. This time I will not be too anxious to drink. I will try the dental floss tied hop bag in the keg this time. Found that keg co2 level was best around 8-9 psi.

Anyone know if dry hopping harms a beer if done for an extended time?

EDIT DUE TO ENGLISH TEACHER IN ME.

If you do it in the keg, let it sit for 4-5 days at room temp. Then, toss it in your keezer or kegerator and it will be just fine.

 

[D_Ranged_Eskimo]

Going to brew up 10 gals of this over the weekend and try a single decoction at 122 F for 35 minutes with a raise to 154 F for 45 minutes. Got the starters of 1056 going tonight.

 

[D_Ranged_Eskimo]

I'm also going to try this with all Simcoe. The original is outstanding, but got a good deal on a pound of Simcoe. After playing around on BeerSmith last night, it's sitting at 26.5 ibus.

 

[cuinrearview]

Going to brew up 10 gals of this over the weekend and try a single decoction at 122 F for 35 minutes with a raise to 154 F for 45 minutes. Got the starters of 1056 going tonight.

VERY interested to hear if the decoc. helps with the breadiness. Did you make the PM recipe?

 

[D_Ranged_Eskimo]

VERY interested to hear if the decoc. helps with the breadiness. Did you make the PM recipe?

The two times I've made this, it was the extract with steeping grains recipe. This first time had the sweetness that's been described, the second, I screwed up and it ended up as a drinkable hop water.

 

[lawnboybrew]

I went all grain and all Simcoe. I kept the hop schedule. Also, used california ale from white labs. Thinking about dry hopping with Amarillo pellets. Any idea as to how much?

 

[JonGrafto]

I went all grain and all Simcoe. I kept the hop schedule. Also, used california ale from white labs. Thinking about dry hopping with Amarillo pellets. Any idea as to how much?

I dry hopped for 7 days with 1.5 oz of Amarillo. Spot on. I also used pellets.

 

[JonGrafto]

I just entered my first competition with this beer ( I entered it in the American Wheat 6D category) and scored a 40 !!!!
Woot... The only thing I was disappointed with was the fact that I only placed 3rd.... IN MY CATEGORY!!! Stiff competition...

 

[cuinrearview]

I just entered my first competition with this beer ( I entered it in the American Wheat 6D category) and scored a 40 !!!!
Woot... The only thing I was disappointed with was the fact that I only placed 3rd.... IN MY CATEGORY!!! Stiff competition...

Congratulations! Did you get notes from the judges? If so, what kinds of comments were given?

 

[JonGrafto]

Congratulations! Did you get notes from the judges? If so, what kinds of comments were given?

I haven't gotten the notes back yet. The awards ceremony is this weekend at the brew festival. I can pick up the score sheets and award then or they mail it out next week. Not sure of I can get to the festival though. Almost 2 hours away and me without a DD.

 

[JonGrafto]

Just got my notes back from the competition. Overall I am happy with the feedback and the scores.

Here they are as followed:

1st judge

Aroma 10/12 - Medium-high citrus aroma up front. Grapefruit skin. Moderately-low fruity esters. No diacetyl or DMS

Appearance 3/3 - Rich gold color. Brilliant clarity. Off-white head pours full and lingers as a ring of small bubbles.

Flavor 16/20 - Medium-high citrus up front. Grainy malt follows. Balanced toward the hops with enough malt to balance. Medium-high bitterness. Finishes Dry.

Mouthfeel 4/5 - Medium-high carbonation keeps it lively. Medium-light body. Low alcohol warmth. Slightly creamy but still crisp. Not astringent.

Overall Impression 7/10 - Crisp and balanced. Refreshing beer. A touch more carbonation would help continued drinkability, but nice job overall. (I kegged this beer and just filled straight from my taps without the use of a beer-gun or counterpressure filler. That may have led to a loss in a little carbonation.)

Overall Score 40/50


2nd judge:

Aroma 10/12 - Strong citrus & piney hop aroma. Moderate pale malt aroma. Hop aroma is pleasant but a bit high for this style. No banana/clove.

Appearance 3/3 - Medium gold color with good clarity. Medium white head with fair retention.

Flavor 14/20 - Strong citrusy/piney hop flavor. Med-high hop bitterness. Med-low biscuity flavors as well as wheat character.

Mouthfeel 4/5 - Medium body with a slightly dry finish. Medium carbonation is a bit low for the style. Very slight warming.

Overall Impression 8/10 - Very pleasant beer. Tweak the hop profile down a bit. No off flavors. Good balance with the wheat character.

Overall Score: 39/50

 

[chemdoc]

Brewed this up a week before Christmas. Bottled two weeks ago, but couldn't wait. Tried it last night and... Wow! Great beer. Much more than I was expecting. This beer really does a great job of showcasing the hops. I think Amarillo may be my new favorite. Thanks for the recipe. Definitely going to brew again.

 

[BPhad]

Brewed this in early January and put it in Babble Brew Off where it scored a 35 and took silver in American Wheat/Rye. Thanks for the great recipe.

 

[nullifidian]

Made this with el dorado instead of amarillo. This is my first time using el dorado hops, so i chose this recipe to really put the hop flavor on display. After 2 weeks in bottles, I tried my first today. Tremendous beer, although a bit green. Obviously, not gumballhead, but just as good.

 

[marvinsjunk]

We made this one 2 weeks ago. It was our first all-grain batch using BIAB. I can't remember if the recipe came from this thread, but the one I used called for 6 lbs white wheat, 5 lbs 2 row, and 1 lb caravienne. My dyslexia kicked in and I actually had 5 lbs of white wheat and 6 lbs of 2 row. Mash started at 153 and dropped to about 150 after 75 min. OG was dead nuts at 1.054. Used S04 dry yeast.

Curiously, took a gravity reading today before dry hopping and FG is 1.006. This attenuated a lot more than I expected. The gravity sample tasted good, but not surprisingly it had a lot of alcohol warmth. I don't have any software to easily calculate what OG and FG should have been with the extra 2 row. Do you guys think the FG was so low because of the extra 2 row, or was it more likely something to do with the mash temp/time?

Really looking forward to drinking this in a few weeks after DH and bottling. Thanks for the recipe and any help.

 

[dominic_mercier]

I've got 9.5 pounds of damn fine smelling grist in my office. Making this Sunday as my first BIAB/all grain venture. Really looking forward to it.

 

[Nargan]

Just made the "updated" extract version of this, today. REALLY looking forward to having a viable summer beer ready soon while I wait for my big IIPA to carbonate. I was shooting for an OG of 1.057 and hit 1.055 which is the closest I've been to hitting my target yet.

 

[sparksanthony]

Just brewed a very similar clone a couple of weeks ago. I used Red Wheat (per 3Floyds) and I couldn't find the Caravienne at my LHBS, but they had a Cara-Amber (which after the fact found out it is somewhat like Victory/Biscuit)., so that is what I went with. Hope that doesn't change the flavor profile too much. It smells great!

Has anyone used WLP051 (California V) with this type of beer?? (That's what I went with, my 1st time using this yeast. If so, how were the results??

 

[cuinrearview]

We made this one 2 weeks ago. It was our first all-grain batch using BIAB. I can't remember if the recipe came from this thread, but the one I used called for 6 lbs white wheat, 5 lbs 2 row, and 1 lb caravienne. My dyslexia kicked in and I actually had 5 lbs of white wheat and 6 lbs of 2 row. Mash started at 153 and dropped to about 150 after 75 min. OG was dead nuts at 1.054. Used S04 dry yeast.

Curiously, took a gravity reading today before dry hopping and FG is 1.006. This attenuated a lot more than I expected. The gravity sample tasted good, but not surprisingly it had a lot of alcohol warmth. I don't have any software to easily calculate what OG and FG should have been with the extra 2 row. Do you guys think the FG was so low because of the extra 2 row, or was it more likely something to do with the mash temp/time?

Really looking forward to drinking this in a few weeks after DH and bottling. Thanks for the recipe and any help.

Not your process' fault it looks solid. SO-4 is beast and will munch through sugars, especially if your temps drifted up.

 

[h0psnobery]

Bump

 

[miked597]

How long do you DH? Is 2weeks to long?

 

[JonGrafto]

How long do you DH? Is 2weeks to long?

Two weeks is too long. Typically 7-10 days. Otherwise you may get grassy flavored if you leave it too long on dry hop. Mine was great after 7.

 

[scrub0bk]

I just brewed this the other day with the reviews i've read. Pulled the dry hops after 9 days and it still in the ferm as its currently sitting at 1.020, gonna check next week if it goes down to about 1.016. Had to taste it as it smelled awesome when i opened the fermenter. its a bit watery flavored now, is that normal for this stage in the fermenter? about 12 days in.

 

[BrewerMikey]

Hi everyone, I'm a brewer here in Taiwan and just finished 8 days in Primary. Will now do DH for 5 day with 1 oz of Amarillo
Sampled the beer today and have hit FG of 1.010, so I think I can call this done and rack to secondary to DH for 5 days. The smell is Tangerine. I think this will knock the socks off all my friends. LHBS was really helpful
The carboy on the right is my GBH Clone the carboy on the left is an All-grain Honey Ale(WH clone)

Here is my grain bill and proportions:
Boil Size: 29.47 l
Post Boil Volume: 25.83 l
Batch Size (fermenter): 22.00 l
Bottling Volume: 20.49 l
Estimated OG: 1.050 SG
Estimated Color: 10.7 EBC
Estimated IBU: 18.0 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 79.0 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type /IBU
2.50 kg Pale Malt, Maris Otter 49.5 %
2.25 kg Wheat Malt, Bel (3.9 EBC) 44.5 %
0.30 kg Caramel Dark 50 (50.0 EBC) 5.9 %
7.00 g Amarillo [9.20 %] - First Wort 90.0 min
14.00 g Amarillo [9.20 %] - Boil 15.0 min
14.00 g Amarillo [9.20 %] - Boil 5.0 min
56.00 g Amarillo [9.20 %] - Steep/Whirlpool
Safale American (DCL/Fermentis #US-05) Yeast
28.00 g Amarillo [9.20 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days

Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body, Batch Sparge
Total Grain Weight: 5.05 kg

 

[scrub0bk]

So I just opened a bottle of mine after 1 week. I know early but I had to try it after it smelled so good. I was quite disappointed, it seemed to have a pretty sour taste to it, so I'm not sure if I'm just jumping the gun, or something is wrong with the batch. I'll try another bottle in a week to see if anything changed cause it could just be premature, but I'm hoping the whole batch isn't ruined.

 

[RacingRam]

Kegging my 3rd batch of this to kick off the warm weather. Love it! Since this is similar to Gumballhead dry-hopped with Simcoe, I now call it Simballhead.

 

[madams]

Have been looking at this recipe for a couple weeks and just noticed where MOREBEER has the new WLP200 (mix of 001 and 002). Has anyone tried his yet, or will have to be the first? Havent been able to decide whether or not to go American or English yeast. Figure this is the best of both worlds (no pun intended, really).