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[greenhaze]

Quick question, is CaraPils malt the same as Caramel malt-40L.

thanks

 

[day_trippr]

I would say "Not at all similar".
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Cheers!

 

[BradleyBrew]

no sir...

 

[kh54s10]

Here is a chart that show Carapils as a little different by each maltster. It looks like it is similar to some Crystal 10L.

http://www.brew.is/files/malt.html

 

[greenhaze]

So I was going to brew tomorrow an amber ale tomorrow and I don't have any Caramel malt-40L but I have Crystal 75L. Would this be a good substitute for the caramel ?

AG Amber ale
9lbs British 2 row pale malt
12 oz caramel malt
4 oz roasted barley
4 oz special malt B
1 oz fuggle
1 oz cascade

any help much appreciated
Slainte

 

[kh54s10]

I often substitute different crystals and caramels which are pretty close to the same thing. If using C-75 instead of Caramel 40 I would use about half as much. I have made a lot of recipes what I used the chart I linked previously to substitute something similar. If you change, it will most likely be good, just not exactly the same as the recipe.

 

[greenhaze]

Great thanks for the info

Slainte

 

[Demus]

There's 2 things the caramel malts add, color and flavor. When substituting, you could theoretically achieve the same color by using less of a darker malt or more of a lighter one. This will NOT however produce the same flavor. If you want a recipe with C40 to taste the same as with C75, you'll have to use more like 2/3 or 3/4 the amount, and accept that it will be darker in color. It also won't taste quite the same, as the flavors are DIFFERENT, not just more or less intense. I personally value beer flavor more than appearance, so I'd use about 2/3 the amount of C75 if replacing C40. It'll be a little darker, but closer to the original recipe flavor. It may even be better!! ;-)

 

[greenhaze]

There's 2 things the caramel malts add, color and flavor. When substituting, you could theoretically achieve the same color by using less of a darker malt or more of a lighter one. This will NOT however produce the same flavor. If you want a recipe with C40 to taste the same as with C75, you'll have to use more like 2/3 or 3/4 the amount, and accept that it will be darker in color. It also won't taste quite the same, as the flavors are DIFFERENT, not just more or less intense. I personally value beer flavor more than appearance, so I'd use about 2/3 the amount of C75 if replacing C40. It'll be a little darker, but closer to the original recipe flavor. It may even be better!! ;-)

I hear ya, suppose I could drive the hour to the local home brew store but I have the C-75l so I think I'll use it as per your suggestion.
It's the first time brewing this amber ale. If it turns out great maybe I'll brew it again with the 40-L. Just for comparison
Slainte

 

[Demus]

Just re-read your recipe. 12 oz of C40 is fairly subtle in a 5 gallon batch anyway. Use 10 of C75 and you'll be fine. ...

 

[brewkinger]

There's 2 things the caramel malts add, color and flavor. When substituting, you could theoretically achieve the same color by using less of a darker malt or more of a lighter one. This will NOT however produce the same flavor. If you want a recipe with C40 to taste the same as with C75, you'll have to use more like 2/3 or 3/4 the amount, and accept that it will be darker in color. It also won't taste quite the same, as the flavors are DIFFERENT, not just more or less intense. I personally value beer flavor more than appearance, so I'd use about 2/3 the amount of C75 if replacing C40. It'll be a little darker, but closer to the original recipe flavor. It may even be better!! ;-)

Just re-read your recipe. 12 oz of C40 is fairly subtle in a 5 gallon batch anyway. Use 10 of C75 and you'll be fine. ...

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