Game of Thrones

[robdogj]

that was a pretty good fight scene - the directors & producers should take a bow for that

 

[OG-wan Kenobi]

It was a really good episode so much went on, It did not go well for the Mormont's and Theon finally got his honor in check, Beric Dondarrion's story came to an end, and Arya like a ninja what an episode. I cant wait to watch it again tonight so much went on I am sure I missed some things and of course what's to come obviously there is major unsettled business with someone

 

[jayrome2722]

I was so worried that they were going to end the episode with the Night King pulling out his spear for Bran. Then Arya comes running in, and there's hope, then the Night King catches her by the throat, I worried she might die, then you see the dagger falling and you know its the end for The Night King...I was standing right in front of the TV at that point, I couldn't sit through all that.

 

[Andrew Hodgson]

Yeah reading around today I find it ridiculous that people are giving them so much crap for the battle/episode.

Lyanna Mormont goes out with honor and Jorah goes down protecting Khaleesi alone, both fitting to great members of another great house destroyed.

I was in the camp of steeling myself to lose more characters than they killed. It doesn't change my mind that the cast is probably going to be cut by a third at least from the major character pool in the next couple. And I do agree with the criticism that the epicness of these types of battles and then having the vast majority of the characters survive is a bit unrealistic, I'm not ready to get pitchforks and torches out like the other haters.

But seeing Tormund literally standing at the end on a mountain of wights he killed and then Jaime/Brienne/Pod up against a wall hacking away for what would have been hours and everyone makes it through did make me chuckle. I love these guys and they are all famous warriors with good reason but sometime a dude gets a lucky knife thrust and you just die.

You have to be invested in the characters so they can continue stringing along the tension but jesus man they have a good way of making the battle look completely FUBAR and then at the end being like, huh, yeah sure a lot of soldiers died and some tertiary people but that was...easy?

Also who else thought for a hot second that Sansa and Tyrion were hopeless and were going to double suicide instead of being eaten by the undead? At that point I was ready for the whole thing to go sideways fast. At least they rekindled that old fire.

 

[Beer-lord]

SPOILER******FOR THOSE WANTING A LIST OF WHO DIED ON EPISODE 3*****

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  Spoiler: List of the dead

  [*]Beric Dondarrion
  [*]Eddison Tollett (Dolorous Edd)
  [*]Jorah Mormont
  [*]Lyanna Mormont
  [*]Melisandre
  [*]Theon Greyjoy
  [*]The Night King
  [*]Viserion

 

[BamaProud]

It sure didn't live up to what I expected. So far Season 8 hasn't lived up to what I was hoping for/expecting. Maybe things will change, but my confidence in the Hollywood crew giving us the type of drama/entertaining RR Martin intended is fading.

Anyway the cinematography was great with the exception of everything being too dark, but the story line/plot was kinda disappointing. HBO spent 20 million dollars on this episode, but they couldn't afford decent lighting. Come on.

I'm gonna re-watch Wednesday morning but right now:

1) The Death of the Knight King was lame. Where did Arya come from? did she parachute in? I know she is a seasoned assassin, but the Night king was surrounded by thousands of soldiers and she just appears and kills a legendary evil king with a knife. Winter and the Night King has been coming for 7 years and it ended like that. B.S.
2) Hardly anyone died who was essential to the story line.
4) The whole "zombie Stark" theory was correct, but pointless. Yup.
5) Without Melisandre arriving with a functional box of matches would they even mounted a minimal defense of Winterfell? ...but again none of that should have even mattered. Arya should have just parachuted in and stabbed the Night King in the neck before any fighting began if it was that easy.
6) Theon's attempt to rush the Night King was lame.
7) What the heck was creepy Bran doing all episode? He warged into the 3-eyed raven, but for what? Did he just want a better view of the battle? Am I missing something here?

The battle was very entertaining, especially visually, but the plot didn't really go anywhere.
8) About the only thing interesting from a plot perspective was the brief conversation between Sansa and Tyrion about their prior marriage and the suggestion of a possible future alliance.

9) Looking forward. We're back to the battle for the Throne. How is the battle between Cersei and the Winterfell Crew even going to be close to a fight? All of the main characters, including all of the individual main character-warriors are still alive. Most of the Dothraki are gone, but Daenerys still has 2 dragons. The Golden Company/Cersei doesn't have a defense against dragons.

 

[Gravitysucks]

I have read all the books, although by the time George R.R. decides to finish the next one I'll probably have to reread them to remember what has happened, but I've not watched any of the HBO series. Out of curiosity I checked out a few videos about last night's episode, since it's all over the news, including some of those "reaction" videos and the clips actually looked pretty exciting although the reactions of people watching were a bit of a surprise. I guess I've been living under a rock because I had no idea people were so emotionally invested in the show. I'm still hesitant to watch the show because I'm afraid it will ruin the next two books if they ever get finished.

 

[krenshaw]

I loved the episode. The lighting was perfect for me. You could easily make out which characters were doing the fighting which is all you needed because it was night. It added to the tension where you had no idea what was going to happen. That made the flames give a much better impact when they kept coming and coming. I also loved how they switched from scene to scene to play with your emotions. Like it would be a crazy loud battle scene and then go to the library where Arya was stealthy. I would also suggest anybody to go back and listen to the music/effects. That episode was oscar worthy just for the music!

I was quite happy with all who died, though was surprised Brienne and Davos survived because both of them have done what they needed and ep2 made it appear that they would be leaving. Was very worried they were going to take out Arya after she killed somebody or was protecting somebody but since needs to cross off Cersei off her list that can happen right after that. Now that the battle is over there will be some drama with Jon and Dany with who is in charge, or who will the people follow since there are no more (minimal) of Dany's army there. Since they didn't show Kings Landing at all I still think that maybe the Lanister army is already traveling north to fight the winner of the battle at winterfell before they can regroup. That would be the smart thing to do anyways.

Overall I am very much looking forward to the next 3 since they have plenty of time to tie up all of the loose ends and still have one more battle ahead of them!!

 

[Andrew Hodgson]

1) The Death of the Knight King was lame. Where did Arya come from? did she parachute in? I know she is a seasoned assassin, but the Night king was surrounded by thousands of soldiers and she just appears and kills a legendary evil king with a knife. Winter and the Night King has been coming for 7 years and it ended like that. B.S.

This is the main negative point to me, it was ridiculous.

Literally the super-human antagonist was defeated because he chose to walk super slow and stare at Bran for minutes on end before deciding to kill him. This is something I hate and for some reason it shows up again and again and again in movies and TV, "I have defeated you good-guy, now watch as I super-slowly finish you off just in case someone has anything to say about... oh woops I'm dead," I hold GoT to a higher standard than this non-sense.

The enemy is seemingly invincible, but his desire for drama led to his demise.

Of all the tiny holes and misgivings, they really are trying to sell us on the fact that this being, who has been trying to take over the entire continent for thousands of years, gave all that up because he wanted his final victory to be dramatic. His audience for this drama mind you are mindless zombies. I overlook this crappy ending to the Night King because I had accepted the fact that they were going to wrap this sub-plot up this episode but it was tough to swallow for sure.

 

[NickTheGreat]

I really liked the episode too. A little surprised they wrapped up the Night King, but there's only 3 episodes left. I would have ended the episode at the moment he grabbed Arya by the throat! Glad they didn't though . . .

I'm also glad there wasn't much of "zombie characters" in it. There was a little, but I thought enough.

 

[robdogj]

I really liked the episode too. A little surprised they wrapped up the Night King, but there's only 3 episodes left. I would have ended the episode at the moment he grabbed Arya by the throat! Glad they didn't though . . .

I'm also glad there wasn't much of "zombie characters" in it. There was a little, but I thought enough.

I am a bit pissed about the demise of The Lady from Bear Island, but at least she took out a Giant

 

[Andrew Hodgson]

Lyanna did go down swinging. They had to give her a sweet kill before she went all we have seen of her tenacity was telling grown men they are idiots and cowards. I love house Mormont but they went down swinging. "Here we Stand," house words say it all.

 

[robdogj]

Looking forward. We're back to the battle for the Throne. How is the battle between Cersei and the Winterfell Crew even going to be close to a fight? All of the main characters, including all of the individual main character-warriors are still alive. Most of the Dothraki are gone, but Daenerys still has 2 dragons. The Golden Company/Cersei doesn't have a defense against dragons.

don't worry bro - Arya will use a face of Jaime & come to Cersei - Cersei will take off her clothes to have sex with Jaime & at that moment Arya will remove her Jamie mask & cut her throat - Arya will kill two people with that death but gives zero ***** - Da Aunt Banger & his Auntie will rule Westeros & there will be peace in the 7 Kingdoms - Game of Thrones done

 

[jayrome2722]

I think Bran was Warging to lure the Night King to the Godswood. Also, When he showed up his whole army stood aside. They didn't react when Theon charged, so if Arya was there, why would they react to her? What would have been better is if Bran was able to Warg into Theon at that point and force him to charge, showing Arya this was the moment she needed. I was disappointed Tyrion and Sansa didn't get their hands at least a little dirty though. The whole crypt scene was a wasted opportunity.

 

[BBQB]

It sure didn't live up to what I expected. So far Season 8 hasn't lived up to what I was hoping for/expecting. Maybe things will change, but my confidence in the Hollywood crew giving us the type of drama/entertaining RR Martin intended is fading.

Anyway the cinematography was great with the exception of everything being too dark, but the story line/plot was kinda disappointing. HBO spent 20 million dollars on this episode, but they couldn't afford decent lighting. Come on.

I'm gonna re-watch Wednesday morning but right now:

1) The Death of the Knight King was lame. Where did Arya come from? did she parachute in? I know she is a seasoned assassin, but the Night king was surrounded by thousands of soldiers and she just appears and kills a legendary evil king with a knife. Winter and the Night King has been coming for 7 years and it ended like that. B.S.
2) Hardly anyone died who was essential to the story line.
4) The whole "zombie Stark" theory was correct, but pointless. Yup.
5) Without Melisandre arriving with a functional box of matches would they even mounted a minimal defense of Winterfell? ...but again none of that should have even mattered. Arya should have just parachuted in and stabbed the Night King in the neck before any fighting began if it was that easy.
6) Theon's attempt to rush the Night King was lame.
7) What the heck was creepy Bran doing all episode? He warged into the 3-eyed raven, but for what? Did he just want a better view of the battle? Am I missing something here?

The battle was very entertaining, especially visually, but the plot didn't really go anywhere.
8) About the only thing interesting from a plot perspective was the brief conversation between Sansa and Tyrion about their prior marriage and the suggestion of a possible future alliance.

9) Looking forward. We're back to the battle for the Throne. How is the battle between Cersei and the Winterfell Crew even going to be close to a fight? All of the main characters, including all of the individual main character-warriors are still alive. Most of the Dothraki are gone, but Daenerys still has 2 dragons. The Golden Company/Cersei doesn't have a defense against dragons.

This. 1-9

 

[Galek]

1. The Night King was just a bioweapon, not a living thing. He never ran or acted in haste. When he threw the spear at the dragon he did it slow and mechanical, the same at Hardhome, the same after getting knocked off the dragon, staring at the dragon trying to burn him, turning to see a charging Jon raising the dead and turning to walk to the Godswood, Theon attacking he barely registered until Theon was in his personal space. He had a deliberate walk up to Bran, regarded the target and was pulling out his weapon. Anything else would have been way out of character. HBO did draw it out with slow motion for effect, but the NK was moving as he always had.

Arya showing up out of nowhere is understandable, but not great. The NK controls all the dead and basically had them in standby mode while he achieved the goal of killing Bran. If anyone approached the NK would have noticed and let his drones attack but, as the first episode made a point to show Arya being silent creeping up on Jon in the Godswood, he noticed it too late. It is not great, but the show had precedent for it.

2. True. Although did you expect anyone essential to the story line to die? Wouldn't that make them unessential? Jon, Danny, Cersei, Tyrion, Sansa, somewhat Jamie, and possibly Arya are the only one essential to the storyline after the NightKing. Sam, Podrick, Brienne, Tormund, Hound (though he needs to battle the Mountain), Grey Worm to all survive is a bit of a stretch.

4. It drove the conversation and understanding between Tyrion and Sansa. Without it there is no way Sansa would let her guard down enough to talk to him. But it was a bit underwhelming and inconsequential to everyone else.

5. Very much so. Every tactic to defend themselves was pitiful.

6. Theon's attack was the apex of his redemption arc. How many times had he cowered away when facing death. He was an honorable man and made peace with his death and went out like a warrior not the coward. Every one knew he was dead and he finally faced it.

7. No idea, did not seem to do anything. Trying to keep on eye on the nightking to warn Theon when he comes maybe? Maybe trying to see as much as possible to remember it as is his duty? I don't think there is a great answer and we will not be getting one.

8. Well yeah. It was an 80 minute battle episode. There was maybe a dozen lines of dialogue. The Northern threat is done for good, so that plot point is tied up.

9. Even without the much great numbers I would not count Cersei out of any battle. They are building a lot of these Scorpian weapons for the dragons and using the civilians as a shield against dragon fire maybe?

 

[BamaProud]

OK I watched again and feel a little better about the way Arya killed the Night King. About 20 mins before it happened She, Mellisandre, the Hound, Beric Dondarrion were in the Castle. After a remembering a previous conversation with Mellisander about killing people with different colored eyes, she seemed like she was off to do something. Presumably that was to set up an ambush/assassination on the King who she knew would confront Bran in the Godswood. So, if she got to the Godswood in secret and before the bad guys arrived, I guess she wouldn't have had to directly avoid all the NKings guards/wights.

 

[krenshaw]

OK I watched again and feel a little better about the way Arya killed the Night King. About 20 mins before it happened She, Mellisandre, the Hound, Beric Dondarrion were in the Castle. After a remembering a previous conversation with Mellisander about killing people with different colored eyes, she seemed like she was off to do something. Presumably that was to set up an ambush/assassination on the King who she knew would confront Bran in the Godswood. So, if she got to the Godswood in secret and before the bad guys arrived, I guess she wouldn't have had to directly avoid all the NKings guards/wights.

and at the same spot earlier bran mentioned that she was able to sneak up on her, which implies she is good at getting at that exact spot w/o being seen my even the 3 eyed raven..

 

[GrogNerd]

Brilliant

 

[Andrew Hodgson]

look at this spineless bastard...

Furious man reveals his girlfriend has BANNED him from watching Game of Thrones because she's JEALOUS of the topless women in the saucy scenes
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/...anned-watching-Game-Thrones-shes-JEALOUS.html

 

[OG-wan Kenobi]

look at this spineless bastard...

Furious man reveals his girlfriend has BANNED him from watching Game of Thrones because she's JEALOUS of the topless women in the saucy scenes
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/...anned-watching-Game-Thrones-shes-JEALOUS.html

My wife likes those scenes as much as I do, time for him to move on

 

[Andrew Hodgson]

It's not like any of us look like Jon Snow, doesn't make me feel bad.

 

[Andrew Hodgson]

Jesus these last episodes are going to tear me apart. It has been so good and so bad at the same time.

Reading online I think a lot of people seem to be in general agreement, the overall movement of the plot is enjoyable, but how are getting there has been tough.

I think the cheesiest line maybe in Game of Thrones ever was said last night. "She's hateful, and so am I." I think we can start making the case that without the spine of the books to hold the character motivations etc. together, this has kind of gone off the rails. At this point the Jamie/Cersei thing just exhausts me, kill her don't kill her, die don't die, just don't speak anymore.

I did like the Bronn cameo and the fact that he refused to just fall in with the boys again and go on "one more adventure for the team!" That's not Bronn and at least they made him true to his character.

Euron Greyjoy and Qyburn, who would have ever thunk that these two would be Cersei's MVP's? Another dragon down without even breaking a sweat, check.

Also for the love of god I wanted Missandei to wrap her chained hands around Cersei and then push/pull whatever them both off that wall.

I am not sure how I feel about the show's treatment of Dany in this last season. Varys is correct at the end when he discusses how she speaks how a tyrant does. My destiny makes everything I do good and all my enemies bad. This is a dangerous thought and it seems like maybe we are going to see Dany go down in a classic arc.

She starts having been wronged by the world and builds herself up from nothing, but the sheer force of will is has taken to get her here has turned her into what she despises, a violent despot. Her ultimate lesson will be that when you play the Game, as Cersei said in season one "You win or you die," there is no morality attached to any of it.

Also as loyal member of team Bobby Baratheon, seeing Gendry get legitimized and get Storm's End to keep the name alive was cool fan-service for me. God knows there has been plenty of it to go around this season.

Clearly Varys is on team Jon. The question now remains, does Tyrion go with what he knows is true and we are all able to see (that Dany would not be the best potential ruler of Westeros) and help Jon Snow become king (Oh man the ladies would love Jon to be on the throne, his love dead again, reluctant ruler, just throwing that brooding look all over the place) or if his loyalty to Dany does not allow him to betray her.

Emilia Clarke is quoted as saying episode 5 will be even more intense than episode 3. I reckon we will have a battle episode and then a talking/resolution episode.

Can it just be Sunday?

 

[NickTheGreat]

I've been thinking Dany has been going mad for years now. So I'm not surprised.

I just can't see any story line for the throne working. Cersei keeping it wouldn't be a good story, or interesting. Dany marching and getting the throne isn't exciting either. Jon? That'd be a huge fan service and just not likely.

That doesn't really leave anybody else?

 

[OG-wan Kenobi]

Bronn came out all gangster reminding the boys who they had been dealing with even told Jamie he was trash with 2 hands, he punched Tyrion and then what's double River Run a good scene leaving me wondering what happens with them all the next 2 episodes.

Dany is all about her power it seems and the whole incest thing yea she's not bothered, Varys indicated she may be an issue to deal with and I am hoping so she's a tyrant just as he said even if she does not know it.

Poor Gendry I guess he didn't have the skill set Podrick has

The whole funeral introduction was meh and looked to have been missing a ton of bodies

Sansa is the new Little Finger and I am finding it interesting her conversation with the Hound she did not let him control it one bit

How did the Dragons flying high in the sky miss an entire fleet of ships? And then 2 sniper shots on Rhaegal and then they cant hit Drogon at all, the drama was nice though

Missandei is gone, I was waiting for her to pull Cersei off that platform with her but nope and then I was shocked Cersei allowed them to all walk away she did not rain arrows down upon them or shoot at the grounded dragon .... really when has she started skipping opportunities to screw people over?

Overall it was good but could have been better at times and it seems there will without a doubt be unanswered questions after the next 2 episodes but hey at least Brienne got some even though that ended poorly

 

[Andrew Hodgson]

I don't know why I did this to myself but I read the leaks/spoilers for the last two episodes. I don't really care the show is about the journey and acting and production not the suspense for me, it's not an M Night Shamalamalayanian movie after all. Needless to say girlfriend was pissed because now we "can't talk about it" like I would be such an a$$hat that I would ruin it for her.

 

[krenshaw]

i wouldn't believe many spoilers out there, since they have filmed alternate scenes on purpose just to throw people off.

 

[Andrew Hodgson]

Yeah the social media account that gave up the details I read has been spot on with their leaks for eps 3-4. Without giving anything away I would say the details I read seem plausible as we sit after episode 4, but I take it with a grain of salt like anything.

 

[Andrew Hodgson]

Yesterday's far-fetched fan theory of the day:

While Drogon was AWOL from Mereen in season 4 (5?) she was laying a brood. People think for some reason now these theorized juvenile dragons will come into the mix.

The latest trailer/screenshots of ep 5 show Euron looking up at the clouds when something appears (presumably). His face looks (sort of?) shocked, and he has seen Drogon already. The reasoning is he is shocked because not one but many dragons descend from the clouds.

I have to be honest I know people are just spending every waking minute of these weeks coming up with theories but if all this hardship that has befallen Dany and her dragons is corrected with a stretch of a twist like this I will be upset. I think it is thin at best but who knows.

 

[OG-wan Kenobi]

Yea that's a ridiculous theory but I am sure it made great click bait as many of them do like the little finger was a faceless man and Bran was the Night King. It would appear the next episode should be a war and the final episode the synopsis, it feels a bit rushed