"Ipa's are made with more yeast" :smack:
This comment came from someone who worked at a brewpub
Waiting for the well actually....
"Ipa's are made with more yeast" :smack:
This comment came from someone who worked at a brewpub
I have to jump in and hafl-heartedly defend waitstaff. I spent 9 years in the restaurant and bar biz paying for college and later because I loved the human interaction.
Except for places that feature their beer, you are likely to get the equivalent of what was on the menu when hired Why? Because in 2006 when I last worked in a bar, base rate was $2.13/hour. Training rate was minimum wage ($5.13/hour?) so the establishment wanted you on the floor because it cost them less than half per hour. You wanted on the floor because unless you sucked at your job you earned $9-14 on a sad lunch shift.
So the shop wants you out making money and you want out making money. Unless you are passionate about your beer (we are talking a combination of History Majors, Teachers who realized they could make more waiting tables and college kids who earn today to pay their rent tomorrow), why would this be priority?
That being said, I knew my beer, my wine and my liquor. Why? Because $9-14 hour, even in Tulsa, OK, was not nearly good enough to pay for college in cash and maintain the lifestyle I was accustomed to. Drinkers tip and their overall bill is higher...you do the math.
I had a guest over for dinner with his family at the weekend. Now I don't really know these people but our girls are friends and my girlfriend knows them quite well.
The dad of the family turns up with a carrier bag full of Fosters.
We get talking about beers and I mentioned that I'm not really a lager fan generally and I brew my own, would he like to try one. Here's how the conversation went:
Him: I don't really like bitters, but, sure, I'll try what you've made
Me: Ok, well I only have a saison on the go at the minute anyhow, it's a style of Belgian beer that used to be brewed in farmhouses, so it's not a bitter.
Him: if its not a lager it's a bitter.......
Me: ummm what about stout,s like Guinness for example?
Him: bitter.
Me: or a mild?
Him: bitter.
Me: oh. ( as diplomatically as possible) I'm not sure that's quite right. I'm pretty sure bitter is just one style of many. ( by this time I've poured his saison and hand into him)
Him: no I'm pretty sure you have lagers, bitters and cider. ( tastes it) ah, see this isn't a bitter......it's fizzy, you've made a lager without realising it.
Me: have some falafel.
He went on to drink my saisons all night and when they were leaving I handed him the fosters back, explaining again that lager isn't my thing " funny you don't like it when you can make it! Thanks again!"
Went to bed very confused.
I like what I like as well and know I hate Shocktop and Bluemoon. Just my opinion but they taste terrible.
Someone went to bed confused that night. If it's any consolation, I seriously doubt it was you.
\"AmandaK\" said:From a LHBS employee: \"I hate the way beer smells. It just STINKS up the kitchen!\" She then went on a 3-4 minute spiel about how she doesn\'t enjoy certain aspects of the brew day.
The customers left without buying anything.
It\'s pretty clear to me why this shop is not doing so well.![]()
I haven't had any nosey neighbors yet, but im pretty sure the old lady that walked by while I was rotating my drying hops in the garage thought i was growing weed or something.
It was a pretty potent dank smell coming out of my garage.
amfukuda said:This isn't really funny but can anybody explain to me how coors "frost brews" their beer
Did you know that cold beer raises that standard of what beer should be and your customer base keeps coming back ?
Did you know that beer consumers will continually patronize establishments that offer super cold beer?
Did you know that cold beer reduces waste therefore increases profits?
Did you know that the ice effect of Chill-Rite's products draws patrons to the bar to try 32° beer & 5° liquor?
Did you know that merchandising cold beer leads to dramatic increase in customer base?
Did you know that our research has found that patrons never think the beer is too cold?
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This isn't really funny but can anybody explain to me how coors "frost brews" their beer
I am enjoying this thread. Funny stuff, but shocktop and bluemoon is a lot better than half the homebrew I have judged at several homebrew competitions. Even Budweiser and Coors we make fun of, but they are hard to reproduce. The very accomplished brewers make light lagers and pilsners, because they are such a challenge to make.
I do not like the Monopoly and politics of big beer, but...
I went to a restaurant recently and ordered a Guinness. The waitress said, " Oh we're all out, the closest thing I have is a yuengling." yeah those are close.
Onkel_Udo said:You do realize she might not have been talking about Guinness Stout...as Guinness is a brand like IPA is a style
tyzippers said:Really? When was the last time you've even SEEN anything from Guinness that wasn't a stout? Especially on tap at a restaurant or bar?
drainbamage said:"Well, actually..."
They also have the black lager.
Maybe it was the Yuengling Porter? Just trying to give the benefit of the doubt, not that I've ever seen the porter on tap.
Still, how are any of those even remotely like yuengling? Just saying. Black vs. Amber...and the same disparity in flavor. I usually try to give the wait staff the benefit of the doubt as well, but sometimes I gotta call a spade a spade.
Onkel_Udo said:I am not saying, but implying, that you are making same error the servers do selling IPA as a brand. Both of you are wrong...not painfully wrong like comparing Yuenling Lager with Guinness Stout but still perpetuating Guinness as both a style and brand.
Black Lager, Extra Cold, Stout and Export (granted also a stout) are all available on tap in the US. Apparently Yuengling has a Porter as well as their famed Lager (who knew?). As the saying goes "Be more specific!"
My Bud Light swilling neighbor believes "Light" refers to the color and anything that doesn't say that is a "dark" beer.
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mattd2 said:Wow... relevant spam!
wailingguitar said:As to the lagers, I agree. I have always said if you want to know how good a brewer is, ask for his Pilsner or Helles