Clone Beer Founder's Breakfast Stout Clone

[Brew_Bastard]

What exactly does that mean? I am confused? Is that like dry hoping the secondary with 2 oz of ground coffee? Please help?...

 

[douglasbarbin]

What exactly does that mean? I am confused? Is that like dry hoping the secondary with 2 oz of ground coffee? Please help?...

No. You cold-brew 2 oz. of coffee, then throw the coffee grains away and add the liquid coffee to the keg or bottling bucket.

 

[backsideslash]

I ended up brewing a double batch of an "Imperial" version of this pretty much already Imperial stout and just transferred to secondary on top of some Maker's soaked oak cubes.

For once in my life I finally hit my numbers dead on! 1.110 OG (with 55% efficiency :banghead: but I'll take it for now) and FG of 1.032 after a four week fermentation. One batch with blackstrap molasses and the other with vanilla beans. Going to sit on it until Thanksgiving or so. The gravity sample tasted amazing once you got past the green hotness. I'll let you all know how it tastes once it's all kegged up.

 

[jammin]

I ended up brewing a double batch of an "Imperial" version of this pretty much already Imperial stout and just transferred to secondary on top of some Maker's soaked oak cubes.

For once in my life I finally hit my numbers dead on! 1.110 OG (with 55% efficiency :banghead: but I'll take it for now) and FG of 1.032 after a four week fermentation. One batch with blackstrap molasses and the other with vanilla beans. Going to sit on it until Thanksgiving or so. The gravity sample tasted amazing once you got past the green hotness. I'll let you all know how it tastes once it's all kegged up.

what must one do to arrange a homebrew swap?

 

[sweetcell]

the AHA has just published a recipe for KBS: http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/homebrew-recipe/kentucky-breakfast-stout/

pretty darn close to our recipe.

 

[boondocksaint]

Quick question for this recipe and any that include chocolate...Are you trying to incorporate the chocolate? (Like if you melted it first in a Ss bowl & poured back into the kettle?)

Or, have any of you used a hop bag to try & contain the sludge?

I've never brewed with chocolate and am brewing this recipe right now ��.

Appreciate the help

 

[TwistedHops]

Literally just added the chocolate chunks right into the kettle. Zero problems, including my head retention being fine.

 

[olotti]

I've brewed it once with chocolate, bakers chocolate and I had all kinds of problems with head retention. Next batch I used unsweetened Hershey's powder in the boil and the choc taste was still definitely there and i had no issues with head retention. I also used coffe beans in primary for a week as opposed to grounds at flameout, much smoother coffee taste.

 

[Carlscan26]

No. You cold-brew 2 oz. of coffee, then throw the coffee grains away and add the liquid coffee to the keg or bottling bucket.

How much water do you steep the 2 oz of coffee in? I've read between 8-16 oz or more...any recommendations for this recipe?

 

[mtnagel]

How much water do you steep the 2 oz of coffee in? I've read between 8-16 oz or more...any recommendations for this recipe?

The correct answer is "enough". The amount isn't terribly critical, but you don't want too little that not all the coffee is wetted and you don't want too much where you are diluting your beer with too much water.

 

[Carlscan26]

The correct answer is "enough". The amount isn't terribly critical, but you don't want too little that not all the coffee is wetted and you don't want too much where you are diluting your beer with too much water.

I've never cold brewed coffee before but I thought the water ratio did affect the strength and extract effect, etc. ?

 

[christyle]

When you're making it for a direct cup of coffee, sure, not as much when you're diluting it into 5 gallons of beer? Just go with 8-12oz or so I'd say.

 

[MMJfan]

I use a French Press for my cold brew addition of the coffee and it hold about 1 liter of water. With 2 oz of coffee, it is more like 3/4 of a liter that I use...

 

[Carlscan26]

I used my French press too - ended up with 16 oz of water as it was too dry with just 8 oz IMO when using 2 oz of ground coffee.

Thank you everyone for the advice and feedback :cheers:

 

[bondra76]

Has anyone tried barrel aging this?

 

[Carlscan26]

Has anyone tried barrel aging this?

Funny you should ask...I just put 2gals in a keg with oak chips soaked in port...kind of like Kate The Great.

 

[SpentBrains]

I easily have an inch and a half of chocolate on the bottom of my Better Bottle right now (9 days into 2 week 2ndary) Will hope that the s-04 compacts it slightly more in the next few days and will suspend my siphon right over the top of it with duct tape.

Duct tape. It's not just for brewing...

 

[Carlscan26]

Funny you should ask...I just put 2gals in a keg with oak chips soaked in port...kind of like Kate The Great.

An update on this beer - it won a silver medal at America's Finest City home brew competition (QUAFF run competition in San Diego). It also took third place at NHC's first round in Nashville, so it has advanced to the final round. It was entered as a wood aged in both competitions - I did not enter it as specialty wood with spirits (or whatever that category was called) as I didn't feel the port was prominent enough to bring attention to it. So here's hoping for a medal at homebrewcon...

 

[brewski09]

An update on this beer - it won a silver medal at America's Finest City home brew competition (QUAFF run competition in San Diego). It also took third place at NHC's first round in Nashville, so it has advanced to the final round. It was entered as a wood aged in both competitions - I did not enter it as specialty wood with spirits (or whatever that category was called) as I didn't feel the port was prominent enough to bring attention to it. So here's hoping for a medal at homebrewcon...

Congrats. Did you add the port as well or just the oak?

 

[Carlscan26]

Congrats. Did you add the port as well or just the oak?

Thank you. I was very surprised and happy that it placed at both competitors. I put the port in along with the chips. So I was disappointed that the port flavor faded.

 

[brewski09]

Thank you. I was very surprised and happy that it placed at both competitors. I put the port in along with the chips. So I was disappointed that the port flavor faded.

I did a Kate inspired stout 2 years ago and I think I calculated 1tsp port added per bottle from info on the Kate thread here (bourbon was 1 Tbsp added per bottle from what people were telling me). I moved across country so it didn't get aged more than a few months but it was great when we moved.

 

[distributistdad]

I just want to add my 2 cents on this one. My father-in-law, brother-in-law and I brewed a 15 gallon batch of this, followed the recipe to a "T" except used Trader Joe's "Joe" for the ground coffee, rather than Sumatra.

We've had it bottled for about a year now and have done several side by sides with different friends with the real thing and I've never had anyone say they preferred Founder's in a side by side taste test .

They are almost identical, the homebrew, I think, has just a touch more coffee flavor than the Founders does. Overall, this is just a fantastic recipe and we want to pass many, many thanks to the OP and others that contributed to the discussion here. Great beer! Brew it, ASAP!

 

[eman14]

Sooo...I brewed a 2.5 gal batch but forgot to half the chocolate and coffee additions. Am I screwed???

 

[Hoppity]

I doubt it. You could always cut it w/something tamer if you find the additions overpowering.

 

[eman14]

I doubt it. You could always cut it w/something tamer if you find the additions overpowering.

What do you suggest?

 

[applescrap]

Sooo...I brewed a 2.5 gal batch but forgot to half the chocolate and coffee additions. Am I screwed???

Let us know how it turns out. Screwed? i seriously doubt it. It could use a little more chocolate flavor anyways

 

[xCSx]

Brewing a 3 Gallon BIAB of this clone, this upcoming weekend

 

[Hoppity]

What do you suggest?

A straight Stout or make a black and tan

 

[xCSx]

Brewing a 3 Gallon BIAB of this clone, this upcoming weekend

pre boil i hit around only 1.07ish

 

[xCSx]

I've never seen an airlock go so rapidly.