Clone Beer Founder's Breakfast Stout Clone

[rideincircles]

It is time to brew this again. I will be brewing using some different yeast than S-04. My last version was sweet, but the chipotle candi syrup helped balanced it out. I still would rather have it drier though and may not go as hard on the abv as last time.

I always add extra base grain to boost the abv for making it closer to KBS and that will be the plan for this. My plan will be to dry hop coffee beans instead of adding anything to the boil and I will probably do that with cacao nibs, vanilla beans and some bourbon soaked oak chips.

I have made this almost every year for the past few years and it is my go to winter beer.

 

[applescrap]

It is time to brew this again. I will be brewing using some different yeast than S-04. My last version was sweet, but the chipotle candi syrup helped balanced it out. I still would rather have it drier though and may not go as hard on the abv as last time.

I always add extra base grain to boost the abv for making it closer to KBS and that will be the plan for this. My plan will be to dry hop coffee beans instead of adding anything to the boil and I will probably do that with cacao nibs, vanilla beans and some bourbon soaked oak chips.

I have made this almost every year for the past few years and it is my go to winter beer.

Woot! Sounds great. I like to splash mine with 120 proof aged knob creek, or any other fine spirit as I drink it. Like the vanilla and oak ideas too, sweet! I used the atk winning droste dutch chocolate powder and it was good. Needed more

 

[mtnagel]

This may have been gone over in this thread and if so, I apologize, but a quick search didn't reveal it.

So I've brewed this beer a few times a few years ago and it's always come out great. Reading through the original recipe on BYO again, I see they list:
- dark, bittersweet chocolate
- unsweetened chocolate baking nibs

I'm pretty sure for the baking nibs, I used something like this - Cacao Nibs (Ecuador) 4 oz.

And for the chocolate, I used bakers chocolate, like this:

But then I thought that if the cacao nibs are 100% cacao, then isn't the baker's chocolate just compressed ground up nibs? And if so, why use 2 different forms of the same thing?

But then I actually googled bittersweet chocolate and see it actually has sugar and cocoa butter in it - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JPGQPT0/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_Fz1MFbA4813ZA

Are people actually using something like that in there beer? I'm not terribly concerned with head retention in a stout like this, but still seems like I might not want to use that in a beer.

So looks like I've been using the wrong chocolate types in this recipe so I'm curious what people are actually using?

 

[roddick-xiao]

Estimated Original Gravity: 1.070 SG (1.048-1.065 SG)
Measured Original Gravity: 1.070 SG
Estimated Final Gravity: 1.017 SG (1.010-1.018 SG)
Measured Final Gravity: 1.020 SG
Estimated Color: 65.6 SRM (22.0-40.0 SRM)
Bitterness: 27.0 IBU (25.0-40.0 IBU)
Alpha Acid Units: 9.3 AAU
Estimated Alcohol by Volume: 6.97 % (4.20-5.90 %)

Amount Item Type % or IBU
3.00 lb Light Dry Extract (8.0 SRM) Dry Extract 22.64 %
6.00 lb Northern Brewer - Gold (6.5 SRM) Extract 45.28 %
1.50 lb Oats, Flaked (1.0 SRM) Grain 11.32 %
1.00 lb Chocolate Malt (Simpsons) (450.0 SRM) Grain 7.55 %
0.75 lb Roasted Barley (Simpsons) (575.0 SRM) Grain 5.66 %
0.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) Grain 3.77 %
0.50 lb De-Bittered Black Malt (Dingemans) (550.0 SRM) Grain 3.77 %
0.50 oz Nugget [13.00 %] (60 min) Hops 20.4 IBU
0.50 oz Williamette [5.50 %] (30 min) Hops 6.6 IBU
0.50 oz Williamette [5.50 %] (0 min) Hops -
0.50 tsp Yeast Nutrient (Primary 3.0 days) Misc
1.00 items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) Yeast-Ale

Back then, Founder's listed their IBU's much lower. They appear to have made a correction since then (60 IBU's), so this recipe would actually come in quite a bit lower in IBU's than their Breakfast Stout.

Founders 2019 Harvest Party - A Tribute to American Hops - Founders Brewing Co.

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no any coffee in the recipe ?

 

[anteater8]

I brewed this using the recipe below and it turned out great. Mouthfeel is kind of light and velvety but its packed with chocolate and coffee goodness. This just got 3rd place in the Spice, Herb or Vegetable Beer category of a local competition.

19.25 lb 2 row
1.25 lb flaked oats
1.2 lb chocolate malt (cold steep)
0.9 lb roasted barley (cold steep)
0.65 lb black patent (cold steep)
0.5 lb crystal 120

1.25 oz Warrior 60 min (42 IBU)
1.25 oz Mt. Hood 30 min (13 IBU)
1.25 oz Mt. Hood 0 min

2.5 oz 100% cacao baker’s chocolate 15 min
4 oz cacao nib dry hop
4 oz coffee whole bean dry hop

Imperial Flagship gen 2