Firestone Walker Wookey Jack Clone Attempt

[Vigo_Carpathian]

I wonder if Wookey dust is a pinch of cocoa powder......hmmmmm

 

[revansCAAD8]

Well here is my dilemma, I'm wanting to brew this in few days but my two local shops do not have 'Carafa III' .
Shop #1 wants to substitute it with "Debittered Black Malt (Belgium)"
Shop #2 wants to sub with Carafa II
So what do you think is best? Would either substitution require change to the amount (0.50 lb) needed?

Thanks for any help!
Robert

 

[ipsiad]

The debittered black malt is basically the same thing as dehusked Carafa III. It's definitely a better sub than Carafa II, which is lighter in color.

 

[m00se]

Will Cascade work in place of Amarillo hops due to the shortage of Amarillo?

 

[djdixon1995]

Will Cascade work in place of Amarillo hops due to the shortage of Amarillo?

I used nugget for the magnum and a combo of cascade and centennial for the amarillo...haven't done a side by side yet but the beer is fantastic.

 

[revansCAAD8]

The debittered black malt is basically the same thing as dehusked Carafa III. It's definitely a better sub than Carafa II, which is lighter in color.

Thanks much ipsiad! So I picked up the De-bittered Black Malt and the rest of the needed ingredients today. Looks like I'm now all set to brew this next week!

Now if I can figure out how to add Breiss Midnight Wheat & Simpsons Crystal Rye to the BeerSmith grains list %@#!@%#!

Robert
GypsyBrew

 

[homebrewhaha]

Will Cascade work in place of Amarillo hops due to the shortage of Amarillo?

You can get Amarillo right now if you really want it.

 

[revansCAAD8]

Will Cascade work in place of Amarillo hops due to the shortage of Amarillo?

Yeah I think a combo of cascade and centennial would work but I was able to get Amarillo (leaf & pellet) at both of my local brew shops yesterday.

 

[MeanDeuce]

Thanks much ipsiad! So I picked up the De-bittered Black Malt and the rest of the needed ingredients today. Looks like I'm now all set to brew this next week!

Now if I can figure out how to add Breiss Midnight Wheat & Simpsons Crystal Rye to the BeerSmith grains list %@#!@%#!

Robert
GypsyBrew

I think I had to create a profile for Midnight Wheat

 

[revansCAAD8]

I think I had to create a profile for Midnight Wheat

Ah, could you look and tell me the profile settings to put in? I have all the grain 'Add-ons' loaded in BS but still isn't there, disappointing.

Thanks,
Robert

 

[MeanDeuce]

Here's what I used. Just tasted my clone after it finally carbed up, its pretty great, could be a little dryer but I'm not complaining.

 

[Tava]

brewed 5 gallons a couple months ago. was real close to original. last week i did 10 gallons and moved the 20 minute cascade to a FWH addition. lets see how it tastes..
I also split my 10 gallons into two 5 gallon fermentors and did one with S-04 and one with S-05. looking to see which yeast I like better.

 

[Vigo_Carpathian]

I've been itchin to brew this for the longest time and had this weekend pegged for the brewday....but brewmaster's ran out of 2row and rye, so my order got delayed. So...very...sad

 

[revansCAAD8]

Here's what I used. Just tasted my clone after it finally carbed up, its pretty great, could be a little dryer but I'm not complaining.

Thank you MD for the profile. Glad to hear your batch turned out good! Yeah I was thinking about using another yeast other than WLP002 that would dry it out a bit more. Is that what you used?

Robert

 

[revansCAAD8]

brewed 5 gallons a couple months ago. was real close to original. last week i did 10 gallons and moved the 20 minute cascade to a FWH addition. lets see how it tastes..
I also split my 10 gallons into two 5 gallon fermentors and did one with S-04 and one with S-05. looking to see which yeast I like better.

Uh are we talking about the OP's recipe? I don't see 20 min Cascade addition.

 

[MeanDeuce]

That's what I wanted to use but my LHBS sold me on Wyeast 1968.

 

[ilikeguns]

my first batch came out so good i just went back to back and did another.. such a good brew.

 

[ilikeguns]

Just an update.. today was the first day the beer was fully carbed. I poured a pint of this and is the best beer I've made so far. My FW Double jack was a bit of a failure for reasons I haven't figured out yet, but this one is spot on. Going to try a double blind test on a few subjects this weekend.

Once you find the ingredients, it's a straight forward brew and a lot of fun. Batch #2 is in the ferm chamber.

 

[revansCAAD8]

Just an update.. today was the first day the beer was fully carbed. I poured a pint of this and is the best beer I've made so far. My FW Double jack was a bit of a failure for reasons I haven't figured out yet, but this one is spot on. Going to try a double blind test on a few subjects this weekend.

Once you find the ingredients, it's a straight forward brew and a lot of fun. Batch #2 is in the ferm chamber.

Good to hear! So did you use the exact recipe the OP posted?

Robert

 

[ilikeguns]

Good to hear! So did you use the exact recipe the OP posted?

Robert

yes.. exact recipe! Even had a few hiccups, ferm temp got away from me for the first 12 hours, missed my FG by a few points etc.. but overall, such an amazing brew.

 

[skeezerpleezer]

I am gonna do it again in the next few days. But I think I may use some Conan yeast that I harvested from some Heady Topper to ferment it.

 

[revansCAAD8]

Brewing this tomorrow! Should I include Rice Hulls? If so, how much (1 lbs?)

Thanks,
Robert

 

[skeezerpleezer]

I didn't and had no issues.

 

[ilikeguns]

I didn't and had no issues.

same here although i guess it would depend on your mash tun. I use the 10 gallon igloo w/ a false bottom

 

[ilikeguns]

btw.. I want to thank everyone who worked on this recipe especially skeezerpleezer, scottland and of course matt! So far it has been the best beer I've brewed and I'm enjoying a pint right now!

 

[jclucca]

I didn't and had no issues.

I didn't use any either, but I do recall a pretty slow sparge. I might throw a half pound in next time, just to be safe. As ilikeguns said, it will depend upon your equipment and your crush. You know your setup best, and throwing some hulls in won't hurt if you're worried about getting a stuck sparge.

 

[m00se]

I've never made a starter and was going to brew this on Saturday. I bought two vials of WLP002 in case but I'm realizing after reading a yeast calc that I may be low on yeast count. Do you think two vials is enough? I've never made a starter before and after reading the thread it seems like it takes a little more time than 48 hours to make one.

Should I hold off brewing until I can make a decent starter?

 

[skeezerpleezer]

You should have time if you are brewing Saturday. I assume you don't have a stir plate, so just make sure and shake it often to aerate. Check Mrmalty.com for a nice pitching rate calculator, it will tell you how big of a starter to make.

 

[Vigo_Carpathian]

D'oh! I just looked at my yeast vial and it expires next week. I looked at my LHBS and all the vials were outdated (WTF!). I was going to make a starter, but now I'm thinking about just using dry yeast. I have 2 packs of Notty and 2 packs of 05.

 

[theveganbrewer]

This beer is divine and decadent after about 2 months.