FIB War Room

[yeahnatenelson]

No shark left to jump...
No one in Chicago has brewed a beer in hot dog water yet.

Mikerphone: "Hold my fried chicken DDH IPA..."

 

[Thorpe]

There isn't a lot from stopping you from doing that. Further, after my podcast appearance last week, i learned that Breweries are not subject to the same zoning laws as Bars are, which means you can open that 1/2bbl brewery in a corridor that other businesses legally cannot open in. You know what's even better?

With a Class 1 or Class 2 license for your 1/2bbl brewery, you can open up to 4 taprooms in which to distribute your beer, so long as you have a 5 gallon hombrew system there for "R&D" and then just order any beer or cider you'd like from wholesalers.

Has anyone clarified whether out-of-state breweries are allowed to transfer collaboration beers directly to a brewery in Illinois? I believe that’s legal under TTB regulations so long as the relevant taxes are paid but am not sure how out-of-state breweries are treated for distribution/transfers.

 

[vav1]

Has anyone clarified whether out-of-state breweries are allowed to transfer collaboration beers directly to a brewery in Illinois? I believe that’s legal under TTB regulations so long as the relevant taxes are paid but am not sure how out-of-state breweries are treated for distribution/transfers.

That's a Guild question, but i haven't heard it asked yet

 

[Rockford Jerk]

There is zero wording in the law that designates anything special about collaboration. Search the text -- the 'collaboration' excuse is just a way to allow taprooms to serve beer from other producers. It has nothing to do with collaboration.

"HB 4897 ... authorizes a brewer, class 1 brewer, or class 2 brewer to sell beer manufactured by any other brewer, class 1 brewer, or class 2 brewer to non-licensees and to sell cider. "

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ful...91&GA=100&DocTypeID=HB&DocNum=4897&print=true

 

[mjohnson171]

No shark left to jump...
No one in Chicago has brewed a beer in hot dog water yet.

**Mikerphone rushes to make Chocolate Starfish and the Hotdog Flavored Beer

 

[Thorpe]

That's a Guild question, but i haven't heard it asked yet

Yeah, I agree. I’m curious but haven’t asked since we don’t even have a taproom let alone collaborations to serve in the nonexistent taproom.

 

[danidavid]

**Mikerphone rushes to make Chocolate Starfish and the Hotdog Flavored Beer

Saw Mike driving through the complex a few weeks ago and actually flagged him down to pitch this idea to him...

unfortunately he just kept on .....

 

[yeahnatenelson]

There is zero wording in the law that designates anything special about collaboration. Search the text -- the 'collaboration' excuse is just a way to allow taprooms to serve beer from other producers. It has nothing to do with collaboration.

"HB 4897 ... authorizes a brewer, class 1 brewer, or class 2 brewer to sell beer manufactured by any other brewer, class 1 brewer, or class 2 brewer to non-licensees and to sell cider. "

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ful...91&GA=100&DocTypeID=HB&DocNum=4897&print=true

My take isn't quite as cynical as yours, but I largely agree.

The "collaboration beer brewed elsewhere" argument is sensible on its face, but then you see that it's defined in the broadest possible terms in the legislation such that any beer from any brewery, regardless of the labor, materials or creative input by the taproom in question, is fair game.

I am very willing to believe that the purpose of this provision was genuine on its face, that brewers specifically wanted to allow collaborative beers to be served at both brewery locations. But again, the definition is as broad as possible and it opens the door for brewers to sell out of their taprooms desirable out-of-distro beers sent to them by their brewer friends.

The first one that comes to my mind is Half Acre's very well-known connection to Tired Hands in PA.

 

[beeraficionado]

I just want to thank you all for chasing around double barrels, peanut butter, peppermints and cinnamon toast crunch at the Big North, while I just low key parked myself by the Bon Hut station and went to work.

Two year old barrel stock aged six weeks on blueberry skins, plum puree and black currant puree. Medium bodied with aroma of grilled fruit and short cake, it moves toward flavors of grenache grapes, light acidity and a slow churned vanilla finish.

 

[ChaQuiseman]

I just want to thank you all for chasing around double barrels, peanut butter, peppermints and cinnamon toast crunch at the Big North, while I just low key parked myself by the Bon Hut station and went to work.

Two year old barrel stock aged six weeks on blueberry skins, plum puree and black currant puree. Medium bodied....

Imma let you finish, but Apricot Eat Shop was one of the best Half Acre beers of all time. This coming from a dude who has serious reservations about the idea of lactose in an IPA.

 

[Thorpe]

Imma let you finish, but Apricot Eat Shop was one of the best Half Acre beers of all time. This coming from a dude who has serious reservations about the idea of lactose in an IPA.

I still have regular Eat Shop flowing at home. I’m going to have to grab a keg of this too!

 

[capnmike]

I wish I could go drink some Coolship Red on draft tonight:

https://www.allagash.com/event/meet-the-brewer-5/?ao_confirm

Anyone in?

 

[ChaQuiseman]

I still have regular Eat Shop flowing at home. I’m going to have to grab a keg of this too!

Guess who is coming to live in your basement?

 

[vav1]

I wish I could go drink some Coolship Red on draft tonight:

https://www.allagash.com/event/meet-the-brewer-5/?ao_confirm

Anyone in?

Had it last night, it's astonishingly good. Hope and pray he has Coolship Resurgam left too. Easily the finest not-Gueuze i've had outside of Belgium

 

[Ole Worm]

Pizza gose

But Reinheitsgebot only applied to Bavarian breweries, so Goses wouldn't be included -- so yeah, they're right, that would annoy Reinheitsgebot purists.

 

[ClCardinal84]

Sheffield’s has Double Two Hearted on tap if anyone cares besides myself.

 

[Gonzoillini1]

Sheffield’s has Double Two Hearted on tap if anyone cares besides myself.

Cask Two Hearted > Two Hearted > Double Two Hearted.

However, everything is worth trying at least once.

 

[Thorpe]

Sheffield’s has Double Two Hearted on tap if anyone cares besides myself.

Cask Two Hearted > Two Hearted > Double Two Hearted.

However, everything is worth trying at least once.

If this were "Half Hearted" rather than "Double Two Hearted" I'd be driving over right now. I've been advocating for that beer for years...

 

[ClCardinal84]

If this were "Half Hearted" rather than "Double Two Hearted" I'd be driving over right now. I've been advocating for that beer for years...

Cask Two Hearted is the GOAT however I remember having Double Two Hearted a few years ago and loving it for a DIPA. Then again, my palate has completely changed since then also so it may suck when I waddle over there.

 

[SAISON FUCK]

Double Two

Cask Two Hearted is the GOAT however I remember having Double Two Hearted a few years ago and loving it for a DIPA. Then again, my palate has completely changed since then also so it may suck when I waddle over there.

It is a decent beer. A bit too much bug spray flavor. Fun tick though. Good to see that Sheffield's still has that Bell's hook up. I remember randomly going there in 2010 and they had pre-bottle Black Note and Barrel aged Hell Hath No Fury.

But now I live 20 minutes from Bell's.

 

[DanH11]

Double Two

It is a decent beer. A bit too much bug spray flavor. Fun tick though. Good to see that Sheffield's still has that Bell's hook up. I remember randomly going there in 2010 and they had pre-bottle Black Note and Barrel aged Hell Hath No Fury.

But now I live 20 minutes from Bell's.

Bourbon Hell Hath No Fury, now that is beer I haven’t had or thought about in years. I remember it being a fantastic beer

 

[BobCobb1]

Double Two

It is a decent beer. A bit too much bug spray flavor. Fun tick though. Good to see that Sheffield's still has that Bell's hook up. I remember randomly going there in 2010 and they had pre-bottle Black Note and Barrel aged Hell Hath No Fury.

But now I live 20 minutes from Bell's.

Was there a random evening in summer 2013 and stumbled on BA9K in the school bar with no one drinking it. GOAT contender imo. What a beer.

 

[danbanana]

Cask Two Hearted is the GOAT

Ahh, those early Aughts...

 

[Gonzoillini1]

Was there a random evening in summer 2013 and stumbled on BA9K in the school bar with no one drinking it. GOAT contender imo. What a beer.

It's a shame that beer hasn't aged quite as gracefully as I hoped (if the bottle Powzy opened at Cycle BA Day last year is a good indication of where it is at the moment).

I've never had a beer that barrel aging improved over the base quite as much as that one.

 

[disapowzment]

It's a shame that beer hasn't aged quite as gracefully as I hoped (if the bottle Powzy opened at Cycle BA Day last year is a good indication of where it is at the moment).

I've never had a beer that barrel aging improved over the base quite as much as that one.

* elkhunter36

 

[disapowzment]

It's a shame that beer hasn't aged quite as gracefully

I think I can count on 1 hand the BA beers that weren't lambic that have gotten better with age

 

[elkhunter36]

* elkhunter36

Tony trying to steal my thunder

 

[disapowzment]

Tony trying to steal my thunder

You can UFC him in 2 weeks. I heard hes very bad or lurchingbeast is in fact a beast

 

[trickytunadicky]

Ahh, those early Aughts...

It was in the cask tent at GTMW last year. Hell it could have been there this year but I never made it over there. Meant to, but last year’s cask tent the only thing I wanted wasnthe cask two hearted and the whole thing was kind of a let down.

Unless you were referring to too many places using casks to put dumb **** in them so no one orders cask beer anymore so now no one makes cask beer, so yes.

 

[danbanana]

It was in the cask tent at GTMW last year. Hell it could have been there this year but I never made it over there. Meant to, but last year’s cask tent the only thing I wanted wasnthe cask two hearted and the whole thing was kind of a let down.

Unless you were referring to too many places using casks to put dumb **** in them so no one orders cask beer anymore so now no one makes cask beer, so yes.

Nah, I was referring to the fact that I spend a lot of my early 20's drinking imperial pints of cask Two Hearted at Clark St. because it's still maybe my favorite beer ever.