FIB War Room

[middlebrow]

Did everyone get to try Buckley by transient? That ****** rivaled the great imperial coffee's, though it may have given me diabetes. The coffee was like two days old, someone kick Chris in the ass and make him press some ****** coffee two days before the next release. Also kimballs bizarre vanilla/bourbon Flanders was as genre bending as David Bowie and just as good. It should be served with glitter.


And SAISON **** - you have a keen palette. This last batch of robyn was done in the winter and I couldn't get the yeast temp rise as usual and it finished about 3 points higher than normal. You must own many leather bound books.

 

[PHBoiler]

I'm a big fan of the details on the Penrose release with bottles being $8 and $10 per with potentially multiple bottles per person. Most of the details were the same as the last release but they're selling VIP tix with a breakfast, tasting, and no line waiting. Plan on snagging a ticket Tuesday. Nice to see something for us locals.

 

[Dunt1]

I'm a big fan of the details on the Penrose release with bottles being $8 and $10 per with potentially multiple bottles per person. Most of the details were the same as the last release but they're selling VIP tix with a breakfast, tasting, and no line waiting. Plan on snagging a ticket Tuesday. Nice to see something for us locals.

Deetz

 

[Lognar]

Deetz

http://penrosebrewing.com/events/detail/bottle-release-bba-spectral-iteration-001

 

[danbanana]

I like the idea of throwing more money at them to guarantee bottles but I do not like having to go to Geneva on a Tuesday afternoon to do it. Guess I'll miss out on this, too...

 

[Treebs]

I like the idea of throwing more money at them to guarantee bottles but I do not like having to go to Geneva on a Tuesday afternoon to do it. Guess I'll miss out on this, too...

That's my problem, just can't physically get all the way out there in time. If this was available online it would be a no-brainer.

 

[yeahnatenelson]

http://penrosebrewing.com/events/detail/bottle-release-bba-spectral-iteration-001

Good job eluding to a possible extra vurrient, then immediately confirming and naming said vurrient.

 

[Gonzoillini1]

So who else is going to Night / Day of the Living Ales this year at Bottom Lounge?

Tickets just sold out for the afternoon session, but still some available for the evening (where you can hang out with / go fetch me beers). Also the LT will be volunteering all day if you want to give him **** (which I highly recommend).

 

[yeahnatenelson]

As an aside: is it absolutely necessary for every brewery to make an adjunct and/or barrel-aged stout?

Penrose's mission statement is to churn out sessionable, Belgian-style beers. And they're coming out with a barrel-aged imperial stout? I'll credit Korder with knowing what he's doing given his time heading Goose Island's innovation department, and his brewing skills in general, but I just find it interesting that even Penrose feels obligated to release a barrel-aged stout.

Similarly with Off Color and DinoS'mores. If you've been to any event or read any interview with John Laffler it's as if he's embarassed that he needs to brew that beer. In an event at Beer Temple last year he told the crowd that he hoped to never have to make that beer again. But he did.

 

[yeahnatenelson]

So who else is going to Night / Day of the Living Ales this year at Bottom Lounge?

Tickets just sold out for the afternoon session, but still some available for the evening (where you can hang out with / go fetch me beers). Also the LT will be volunteering all day if you want to give him **** (which I highly recommend).

Sadly I spent all of my dollary-doo's on Rev's 5th Amniversary Party and StoutFest. Gauntlet Weekend.

 

[Dunt1]

As an aside: is it absolutely necessary for every brewery to make an adjunct and/or barrel-aged stout?

Penrose's mission statement is to churn out sessionable, Belgian-style beers. And they're coming out with a barrel-aged imperial stout? I'll credit Korder with knowing what he's doing given his time heading Goose Island's innovation department, and his brewing skills in general, but I just find it interesting that even Penrose feels obligated to release a barrel-aged stout.

Similarly with Off Color and DinoS'mores. If you've been to any event or read any interview with John Laffler it's as if he's embarassed that he needs to brew that beer. In an event at Beer Temple last year he told the crowd that he hoped to never have to make that beer again. But he did.

I'd be more than fine with them never making it again. It's a good beer, but it really brings the #newmoney fanboys around hard. It's so easy to find everything else they make. Though, I am getting a little scared of what Im going to need to give up for this Side Project collab.

 

[Dunt1]

So who else is going to Night / Day of the Living Ales this year at Bottom Lounge?

Tickets just sold out for the afternoon session, but still some available for the evening (where you can hang out with / go fetch me beers). Also the LT will be volunteering all day if you want to give him **** (which I highly recommend).

Never been, should I buy an evening ticket?

 

[RedCoffee]

As an aside: is it absolutely necessary for every brewery to make an adjunct and/or barrel-aged stout?

Penrose's mission statement is to churn out sessionable, Belgian-style beers. And they're coming out with a barrel-aged imperial stout? I'll credit Korder with knowing what he's doing given his time heading Goose Island's innovation department, and his brewing skills in general, but I just find it interesting that even Penrose feels obligated to release a barrel-aged stout.

Similarly with Off Color and DinoS'mores. If you've been to any event or read any interview with John Laffler it's as if he's embarassed that he needs to brew that beer. In an event at Beer Temple last year he told the crowd that he hoped to never have to make that beer again. But he did.

I've recently had a lot of interest in this side of the brewing industry. I'm really curious if any of these places have an "analytics" department (i.e., someone with an empirical finger on the pulse of the market) that informs all of these business practices. Another example is the recent flush of "seasonal" series that are just an IPA roundabout.

Or is it just some guy high up going "Well barrel-aged stouts are cool, right? Guess we gotta make some."

 

[Treebs]

Though, I am getting a little scared of what Im going to need to give up for this Side Project collab.

Scared for this as well, but I need it.

 

[Gonzoillini1]

Never been, should I buy an evening ticket?

I think its a fun event, but I'm a nerd for cask beer (and the beers are about 50/50 split between legitimate cask beers and breweries using a cask as a secondary for infusions). No idea how the setup will be as this is the first time it's been at Bottom Lounge, but last year I enjoyed a bunch of fun pours from Off Color, Goose, 18th Street, Metropolitan, etc...

And it is usually a more low key / less #newmoney crowd than the majority of Chicagoland beer events.

 

[Treebs]

I think its a fun event, but I'm a nerd for cask beer (and the beers are about 50/50 split between legitimate cask beers and breweries using a cask as a secondary for infusions). No idea how the setup will be as this is the first time it's been at Bottom Lounge, but last year I enjoyed a bunch of fun pours from Off Color, Goose, 18th Street, Metropolitan, etc...

And it is usually a more low key / less #newmoney crowd than the majority of Chicagoland beer events.

#newmoney doesn't have time for cask beer.

 

[Tooch4321]

Mmm...cask beers

#oldmoney

 

[Farnsworth]

Scared for this as well, but I need it.

Has there been any indication that it will be released here? Or is just going to be a Side Project release?
All I've seen about it is a tweet of the Side Project labels.

 

[jeblikesbeer]

Has there been any indication that it will be released here? Or is just going to be a Side Project release?
All I've seen about it is a tweet of the Side Project labels.

the sidproject master himself said it wont be because its a SP beer and he dosnt have the ability to distro here.

 

[tinypyramids1]

the main problem i have with day/night of the living ales (and american cask in general) is that way too many breweries use it as an excuse to just chuck adjuncts in rather than show off what cask conditioning can really do for a beer. it doesn't help that it's all served out of hand taps rather than from a beer engine which imo provides a significant enhancement.

 

[middlebrow]

the main problem i have with day/night of the living ales (and american cask in general) is that way too many breweries use it as an excuse to just chuck adjuncts in rather than show off what cask conditioning can really do for a beer. it doesn't help that it's all served out of hand taps rather than from a beer engine which imo provides a significant enhancement.

That's why goose clybourns really the only game in town with regards to local cask.

Speaking of adjunct stouts, we were talking to some fellow about creating a beer for his charity. We ask what styles and flavors he likes. guess how he responds? Flash forward to cutting up 10 lbs of peppers, buying 25 lbs of cocoa, zesting oranges, and soaking vanilla beans. Should be called middle brows begrudgingly adjunct stout.

 

[tinypyramids1]

That's why goose clybourns really the only game in town with regards to local cask.

not counting owen and engine's cask program, of course, but what you get through them is a total crapshoot and isn't necessarily local like you said. i'm dreaming of drinking cask two hearted again.

 

[Farnsworth]

the sidproject master himself said it wont be because its a SP beer and he dosnt have the ability to distro here.

Awe... That sucks.
I thought they brewed something together at both places?

 

[danbanana]

That's why goose clybourns really the only game in town with regards to local cask.

Explain? I've seen FFF and Two Brothers stuff on true cask (with beer engine), and probably others if I think hard enough.

It does seem like a lot of cask stuff is MI breweries. The aforementioned casked Two Hearted is maybe better than the regular kegged/packaged version (hard to imagine, I know) and casked Dragon's Milk is like a bourbon milkshake.

 

[middlebrow]

Explain? I've seen FFF and Two Brothers stuff on true cask (with beer engine), and probably others if I think hard enough.

It does seem like a lot of cask stuff is MI breweries. The aforementioned casked Two Hearted is maybe better than the regular kegged/packaged version (hard to imagine, I know) and casked Dragon's Milk is like a bourbon milkshake.

I mean without extra dry hopped or treated xyz. Two brothers I had no idea and the last three times at FFF they've had nothing on the engine.

But don't get me wrong, all those dry hopped rev casks are ****** awesome just not a true representation.

 

[Treebs]

I mean without extra dry hopped or treated xyz. Two brothers I had no idea and the last three times at FFF they've had nothing on the engine.

But don't get me wrong, all those dry hopped rev casks are ****** awesome just not a true representation.

Ok Ding

 

[sherm10161]

I've recently had a lot of interest in this side of the brewing industry. I'm really curious if any of these places have an "analytics" department (i.e., someone with an empirical finger on the pulse of the market) that informs all of these business practices. Another example is the recent flush of "seasonal" series that are just an IPA roundabout.

Or is it just some guy high up going "Well barrel-aged stouts are cool, right? Guess we gotta make some."

Brewery consultants do exist. Not sure if they have their pulse on all aspects of the business, or if each one is specialized (e.g. start-up vs. ongoing brewing operations vs sales/marketing). I presume they are using some empirical data, but maybe they are just pulling stuff out of their ass.

 

[SSTroller]

Brewery consultants do exist. Not sure if they have their pulse on all aspects of the business, or if each one is specialized (e.g. start-up vs. ongoing brewing operations vs sales/marketing). I presume they are using some empirical data, but maybe they are just pulling stuff out of their ass.

 

[RedCoffee]

See that's what I'm saying. Are people brewing these stouts because one of those crusty old agent guys told them to? Or do they have some sort of Jonah Hill guy walking around saying "your SAR (sales above replacement) on a BA stout will be way higher relative to that Kolsch you were planning. Could be your MVP if you add coconut and sell less than 100 cases of it."

 

[SSTroller]

See that's what I'm saying. Are people brewing these stouts because one of those crusty old agent guys told them to? Or do they have some sort of Jonah Hill guy walking around saying "your SAR (sales above replacement) on a BA stout will be way higher relative to that Kolsch you were planning. Could be your MVP if you add coconut and sell less than 100 cases of it."

You always add coconut!!!!!11!!1 And the final question is, do you go the 50/50 Eclipse route, hold a release event and have no bottle limit in order to sell it all to the first 30 people/mules in line or do you distro the 100 cases to 100 accounts and tweet-pimp the **** out of the 1 bottle limit?