FermcapS rock!!! Pic

[flyangler18]

Do you know which over-the-counter product (brand name) he uses?

Mylicon - not sure if there's a generic version available.

 

[lamarguy]

Mylicon - not sure if there's a generic version available.

Thanks. Looks like any of the simethicone equivalents should work.

And, a $1.50 off coupon....

One last question - what is the approximate dosing rate per 5 gallons? I'd like to experiment with this in my next batch.

 

[Boerderij_Kabouter]

Is this stuff really that much cheaper that it is worth using a non-directly-designed-for-this-purpose product? I mean for $5 you get a bottle of professional grade brewery additive that is FDA approved that lasts for like 50 batches...

I guess I just don't see the cost/reward in this idea.

 

[flyangler18]

Is this stuff really that much cheaper that it is worth using a non-directly-designed-for-this-purpose product? I mean for $5 you get a bottle of professional grade brewery additive that is FDA approved that lasts for like 50 batches...

I guess I just don't see the cost/reward in this idea.

Cheaper? Maybe not. But if you have it on hand because you have little ones, it's a viable substitute.

Since I don't have any wee bairns, I use the AHS Defoamer.

 

[camiller]

Is this stuff really that much cheaper that it is worth using a non-directly-designed-for-this-purpose product? I mean for $5 you get a bottle of professional grade brewery additive that is FDA approved that lasts for like 50 batches...

I guess I just don't see the cost/reward in this idea.

Well, if your out and your brewing and don't have time to wait for mail order it is sometimes nice to have an easily obtainable alternative, even if it is more expensive. Also I'd wager the FDA gave some sort of thumbs up for something intended to put in a baby.

 

[Jewrican]

how much mylicon would you use for a 5 gallon batch (6 gallon boil)?

 

[flyangler18]

how much mylicon would you use for a 5 gallon batch (6 gallon boil)?

Drop or two per gallon.

 

[Boerderij_Kabouter]

Ahhhh.... that makes sense. Good alternative in a pinch

 

[olllllo]

Call me a skeptic, but I don't see how the 10% figure can be treated as a general rule.

Maybe it's because you keep 100% of your wort and don't lose 10% on the floor.

 

[Hammy71]

Maybe it's because you keep 100% of your wort and don't lose 10% on the floor.

ROFLMAO!!!

 

[Jipper]

I just got off the phone with one of our suppliers, and they say that the reason for the "increased hop utilization" disclaimer from the manufacturer is mainly for commercial breweries that have ultra-violent fermentations, where the krausen is blowing off via the blow off tube and being lost onto the floor. The krausen has a lot of alpha acid in it, and by using FermCapS (Foam Control) you can retain that krausen, and thereby retaining those bittering units.

Short story - it won;t affect your AAU% unless you normally get a lot of blow off. It adds nothing to your beer, it just prevents AA loss.

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

I expect the same goes for the boil.

It's kinda interesting reading about this stuff. Through a quick Google I read that once it get cold enough it can be formed into a ball and bounced.

Yummy!

It's also said that it does not get absorbed by the stomach or intestines.I can see the mid winter posts now.

"After a night of homebrew and walking home through a blizzard, I crapped a Super Bouncer"

Hey, at least it doesn't glow in the dark, right?

 

[olllllo]

Maybe it's because you keep 100% of your wort and don't lose 10% on the floor.

I just got off the phone with one of our suppliers, and they say that the reason for the "increased hop utilization" disclaimer from the manufacturer is mainly for commercial breweries that have ultra-violent fermentations, where the krausen is blowing off via the blow off tube and being lost onto the floor. The krausen has a lot of alpha acid in it, and by using FermCapS (Foam Control) you can retain that krausen, and thereby retaining those bittering units.

Short story - it won;t affect your AAU% unless you normally get a lot of blow off. It adds nothing to your beer, it just prevents AA loss.

I was right.....FTW!!!!11!

 

[carnevoodoo]

Am I weird for not wanting this stuff anywhere near my beer?

 

[HSM]

Am I weird for not wanting this stuff anywhere near my beer?

Not at all.

A little dab of ear wax will have the same results but I don't want that either.

 

[giligson]

Is this stuff really that much cheaper that it is worth using a non-directly-designed-for-this-purpose product? I mean for $5 you get a bottle of professional grade brewery additive that is FDA approved that lasts for like 50 batches...

I guess I just don't see the cost/reward in this idea.

It's very hard to find this stuff in Canada - most LHBS don't have it. And most mail order places say they can't ship it to Canada.

 

[Denny's Evil Concoctions]

When I have used simethicone I just got cheap generic version of gas-x extra strength and threw a cap or two in the carboy.

 

[FlyGuy]

It's very hard to find this stuff in Canada - most LHBS don't have it. And most mail order places say they can't ship it to Canada.

Say what? I have bought it from Morebeer.com and either Alternative Beverage or AHS. Nobody gave me any hassle about shipping it to Canada. That's just plain weird.

 

[FlyGuy]

Am I weird for not wanting this stuff anywhere near my beer?

Nervous brewer. Not weird.

 

[lamarguy]

When I have used simethicone I just got cheap generic version of gas-x extra strength and threw a cap or two in the carboy.

Good to hear someone has used the generic version available at a local pharmacy! I assume your beer turned out well, great head and all?

 

[HSM]

Thanks Wikipedia:

Simethicone is generally available over the counter under many trade names in varying dosage sizes, including:

Air-X (Thailand)
Antiflat [1][2] (Austria)
Mag77
Baby's Own Infant Drops
Deflatine
De-Gas
Disflatyl
Espumisan
Flatulex
Gas Relief
Gas-X
GasAid
Gasvan (Serbia)
Genasyme
Imodium Multi-Symptom Relief (formerly Imodium Advanced)
Imogas
lnfacol
lnfacon
Kremil-S
Lefax (Germany)
Little Tummies
Maalox Anti-Gas
Maalox Max
Minifom (Norway, Sweden)
My Baby Gas Relief Drops
Mylanta Gas
Mylanta Gas Relief
Mylicon Drops
Ovol
Phazyme
Rolaids
SAB Simplex
Simeco
Telament (South Africa)
Triaerom (Peru)
WindEze (UK)
Gas-Med

 

[Jipper]

If you get the Maalox, and you grab the cherry flavor and put it in your stout, would that qualify for a cherry stout?

 

[Jipper]

I gotta think there are more ingredients in the stuff that is meant for consumption than the stuff that is meant for the beer.

 

[carnevoodoo]

Nervous brewer. Not weird.

Nothing to do with nerves. It is more like, "yeah, I've got my barley, my hops, and my simethicone in there..." Makes it seem sort of, tainted I guess. I'm not all reinheitsgebot or anything, but It just seems dirty to me.

 

[HSM]

Nothing to do with nerves. It is more like, "yeah, I've got my barley, my hops, and my simethicone in there..." Makes it seem sort of, tainted I guess. I'm not all reinheitsgebot or anything, but It just seems dirty to me.

Please don't lose that feeling! ..EVER!

What is there in the new internet brewing world that couldn't produce me a very good *if not better* batch of brew 20 years ago? (answer: verly little).


I'm sure that beer made with baby diarrhea medicine is better than regular beer. Maybe beer made with not **** medicine is bettarrr?

 

[Denny's Evil Concoctions]

Good to hear someone has used the generic version available at a local pharmacy! I assume your beer turned out well, great head and all?

Yes.

Just make sure what yo are using isn't a combo of simethicone and anti-acid.

 

[noisy123]

I used the simethicone from the baby drops in my IPA yesterday after trips to find the antifoam drops at my LHBS's were unsuccessful. I used 1.5 drops per gallon. I tasted a drop and it seems pretty innocuous.

It seems to be doing a good job. I was a little late getting it in there and so I lost about 1/4 gallon to blow-off. I would suggest adding it before you pitch or shortly thereafter. I will report back with any negative effects if I see any.

 

[Boerderij_Kabouter]

Nothing to do with nerves. It is more like, "yeah, I've got my barley, my hops, and my simethicone in there..." Makes it seem sort of, tainted I guess. I'm not all reinheitsgebot or anything, but It just seems dirty to me.

Please don't lose that feeling! ..EVER!

What is there in the new internet brewing world that couldn't produce me a very good *if not better* batch of brew 20 years ago? (answer: verly little).


I'm sure that beer made with baby diarrhea medicine is better than regular beer. Maybe beer made with not **** medicine is bettarrr?

You guys do realize that this stuff isn't in your beer, it precipitates out immediately if it is not being actively stirred. It does not dissolve into the beer or wort. It doesn't make the beer better or worse, it just makes it not all over your floor. Or you could spend an extra butt load of cash for a massive size kettle so you never have to worry about boil overs. I'll take the $5 bottle.

 

[giligson]

Ok I tried the stuff - I am never going back to NOT using it !
closest source was Ovol gelcaps - cut into the cap with a knife and you get about 5 drops of the pure flavourless otherwise unadulterated simethicone (kind of convenient having a unit dose container actually).

 

[Denny's Evil Concoctions]

Cheapest to get the no-name brand version. Make sure it's the gel caps or drops and not the chewable tabs, as they have antacid etc in them.