Favorite 'Subtle' Hop for Light Lager?

[bigplunkett]

Simco nice and subtle.

 

[Lefou]

Proof that you can still make sh!++y beer with good ingredients.

Thank you for that informed opinion.
Now tell me what you think of what they're putting on the OUTSIDE of the bottle.
http://www.weaselzippers.us/341062-have-a-cold-heineken-with-a-side-of-open-borders/

 

[MrHersbrucker]

Thanks. Mr Hersbrucker had me worried, LOL. I added 1/2 ounce at 20 minutes and 1/2 ounce at 5 minutes today, so it ought to be pretty subtle. But there's no place to hide in this beer if I screw something up, it's just 80% Belgian pils and 20% rice.

That should turn out nice, I should've been more specific, when I say a lot I mean ipa levels, sounds like your brew should be nice and flavorful.

 

[Cavpilot2000]

Thank you for that informed opinion.
Now tell me what you think of what they're putting on the OUTSIDE of the bottle.
http://www.weaselzippers.us/341062-have-a-cold-heineken-with-a-side-of-open-borders/

Don't care what's on the outside. When I buy beer, the only thing that counts is what's on the inside of the bottle.
And my informed opinion (informed by drinking too many crappy Heinekins when it was the only thing available) is that it's crappy beer. Maybe in Europe it's good, but when it comes to the US, it's pre-skunked. Every. Single. Bottle.

Actually I've heard they do pre-skunk it because that's what American Heineken drinkers expect.

In either case, I would now rather drink Bud or Miller Light than Heineken. At least it's going to be FRESH tasting mass-produced swill.

 

[Lefou]

A couple things.
I read what was on the bottle.
First off, it's printed on green glass. Green glass and hops is a major fail to me. Oddly enough, I've run into people who actually like that particular off-flavor, but I'm not one of them. This particular brand isn't the only one I've found out there with bad production control and lousy hopping.

 

[Cavpilot2000]

Green glass and hops is a major fail to me. Oddly enough, I've run into people who actually like that particular off-flavor

That's what I'm saying. I've read (don't remember the source, and I'm sure Heineken would never admit to it) that they know their fans in North America like their product specifically because of its flaw (skunkiness) and not only don't do anything to correct it, but knowingly and actively ship skunky (most of us would consider it spoiled) beer.

 

[KIC-8462852]

Maybe in Europe it's good

No, it's quite terrible, even when fresh.

 

[Cayuga-Brewer]

Try Teamaker, .5% AA. I have been using it for dry hopping. Lots of hop aroma with no significant bitterness

 

[Mainer]

I'm a fan of Sterling and Crystal. They have a noble-ish profile with a little of that Hallertau spiciness, but also give a little more gentle New World pine and fruit than the true German varieties.

 

[Lefou]

Try Teamaker, .5% AA. I have been using it for dry hopping. Lots of hop aroma with no significant bitterness

Never heard of this and will have to look it up. Sounds surprisingly mild.

 

[Lefou]

no, it's quite terrible, even when fresh.

lol

 

[jdlevity]

Perle

 

[beavbuff47]

I use Liberty in my Mexican lagers...subtle, smooth.

 

[silleey]

Try Teamaker, .5% AA. I have been using it for dry hopping. Lots of hop aroma with no significant bitterness

I have a decent supply of dried whole Teamaker Hops (maybe a couple pounds) from a friend that had 4 year old plants! And a copy of the Lab Analysis report from this year’s harvest showing the actual Alpha & Betta Acid levels and essential oil content! Unfortunately he just sold his hop farm to someone out of State, so what I have squirreled away might be all for me unless I can make a deal with the new farmer IF he keeps the Teamaker Hops going.

Anyway, the original farmer challenged me to brew a drinkable beer using Teamaker Hops!

I just finished my 2nd beer type

I’ve brewed a Cream Ale and a Milk Stout using his dried whole Teamaker Hops! Both came out pretty good!

In an Internet search I found a small list of Beers that were supposedly able to be made well with Teamaker Hops.

The two I made were on that list.

I also made 15gallons of Teamaker Hop Tea! That was a big hit when done right’

 

[wsmith1625]

I just brewed a batch with Cluster for bittering and Willamette for aroma. Very drinkable for even the non hop loving wife.

 

[silleey]

Have you ever tried Teamaker Hops for flavor?

They won’t bitter, but add a nice flavor when done right.

 

[silleey]

Never heard of this and will have to look it up. Sounds surprisingly mild.

Have you tried Teamaker Hops yet?

 

[Mutant]

Saaz/Crystal with a touch of Citra or Lemon Drop at the end.