Ever have a credit card number stolen???

[Revvy]

I would suggest paying through paypal whenever possible, it's very secure.


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Are you being sarcastic? I've always been under the impression that paypal was one of the least secure things on the internet. I thought I've heard that it's been phished and hacked repeatedly.....so I've always avoided. Is it really that secure and safe?

 

[bkov]

i had it happen a couple weeks ago, shortly after i did that $20 amazon giftcard for $10 from livingsocial

 

[JonW]

I work for Forrest, and have been looking into this. The moment I got a text message on the subject I contacted our hosting company.
Since then, upper level administrators have looked into the situation and there is no evidence anything has been compromised.
Here around the shop things are locked down. There simply are not pieces of paper with credit card numbers on them, only a couple of people have access to that information and it is through a secure connection.
-Jeff

The problem with using a hosting company and having your DB sit on their server is that you have no idea who has access to that data. You also have no idea if what they tell you is the truth about it being compromised.

 

[DeafSmith]

Seems like a lot of us on HBT have had fraudulent CC charges in the last few days. It would be interesting to assemble a database of all the places each of us has used his compromised CC since, say, the first of the year to see if there is a common site. Maybe something like a big grid with a row for each of us and a column for each retailer/vendor. The disadvantage to this is that it might unfairly target someplace like AHS because of the high percentage of HBT members who shop there. On the other hand, it might show up a previously unsuspected business as a possible culprit.
Some might not want to make their purchases public, so one way to do it might be to have the data PM'ed to a trusted HBT member with a database program and some computer skills (lets me out ), if anyone is willing to take this on. I would have no problem submitting the names of the vendors from whom I have made purchases on my compromised card.
Anyway, I just thought I'd throw this out there to see if there is any interest, and anyone who'd be willing to volunteer to compile the data.

 

[DeafSmith]

Are you being sarcastic? I've always been under the impression that paypal was one of the least secure things on the internet. I thought I've heard that it's been phished and hacked repeatedly.....so I've always avoided. Is it really that secure and safe?

It seems to be safe based on my personal experience - I've used it for several years without problems - probably close to 200 purchases during that time, mostly eBay items.

 

[lumpher]

i'm in austin today and tomorrow, and plan to buy some stuff tomorrow at ahs. i think i'll use cash...

 

[r8rphan]

Are you being sarcastic? I've always been under the impression that paypal was one of the least secure things on the internet. I thought I've heard that it's been phished and hacked repeatedly.....so I've always avoided. Is it really that secure and safe?

I was under the opposite impression.. It's an additional level of protection/isolation from your real account, and has one of the nest fraud protection guarantees I've seen.. Not to mention, that when you go through them, you have 'their' guarantee in 'addition' to your banks...

But i don't know for sure if it's any more or less secure than using your bank card directly...

 

[riverfrontbrewer]

i have only purchased from ahs once, and it was just about a week ago. Today i got a call about fraudulent charges. Apparently, some ****** tried to book a flight on jet blue and bought a few things for the trip. Fortunately, my credit card company caught it. Funny thing is, the clown got flagged when he/she tried to purchase travel insurance....travel insurance...really?! I rarely use the card in question, so it's not difficult for me to pin down the source of the problem. I am no expert, but ahs seems to have been compromised in some way. I am not trying to smear them by any means. They have a good reputation and i'm sure they worked hard to get it. I just want to raise awareness about this issue.

i have this exact same phucking story....words don't express my anger right now!~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Infidel]

The problem with using a hosting company and having your DB sit on their server is that you have no idea who has access to that data. You also have no idea if what they tell you is the truth about it being compromised.

The hosting is done with the most reputable company out there, it would not be appropriate for me to disclose server and security details. We have looked at the known facts, I have reviewed the logs and found no discrepancies.

Keep in mind that a large number of users on HBT are customers of AHS so percentage wise it is probable they have made a purchase with AHS in the last couple of weeks...

...but a number of people have chimed in to answer the original question of "Ever had a credit card number stolen???" and some of those people who replied with their stories of how they had credit card issues this or last week were not customers of Austin Homebrew.

Based on these facts, it is jumping the gun to say Austin Homebrew has been compromised.

 

[riverfrontbrewer]

I was hit too....see other thread

 

[r8rphan]

That sucks...

There's also the other possibility that some unscrupulous type found a way to attach a trojan horse to this site...

That's what sucks about this.. you get blindsided and turn around and there's no one there.... you have no idea who hit you and from where you were attacked.. So you don't know how to defend yourself from being hit again, unless you treat 'everyone' as the enemy...

The only thing you know for sure is that you were hit...

 

[PirateBrewer]

The hosting is done with the most reputable company out there, it would not be appropriate for me to disclose server and security details. We have looked at the known facts, I have reviewed the logs and found no discrepancies.

Keep in mind that a large number of users on HBT are customers of AHS so percentage wise it is probable they have made a purchase with AHS in the last couple of weeks...

...but a number of people have chimed in to answer the original question of "Ever had a credit card number stolen???" and some of those people who replied with their stories of how they had credit card issues this or last week were not customers of Austin Homebrew.

Based on these facts, it is jumping the gun to say Austin Homebrew has been compromised.

To piggy back off of this, it would also be appropriate to know the number of people who ordered from AHS recently and HAVEN'T had a problem. Hopefully I'm not speaking too soon, but, I did place an order from them last week and haven't had any problems to date. That said, I didn't use my CC over the internet (used the call in payment option).

 

[r8rphan]

Any of you guys that got hit having problems with your e-mail? I'm unable to send e-mail half the time.. and have to wait an hour or so... This has been going on for a few days...

Just wondering if there is something on my mac or my IP provider that is related to all of this...

Grasping at straws and trying to punch out a ghost...

 

[bob1852]

To piggy back off of this, it would also be appropriate to know the number of people who ordered from AHS recently and HAVEN'T had a problem. Hopefully I'm not speaking too soon, but, I did place an order from them last week and haven't had any problems to date. That said, I didn't use my CC over the internet (used the call in payment option).

Yeah; it's my experience (sadly ) with CC fraud, that they hit ya quick - trying to get what they can before it's noticed.

This could be a new thing (a delayed hacking - gather info and wait for awhile), but I would doubt that....

Still, I appreciate AHS continuing to look into it and not universally dismissing it.

 

[bob1852]

Any of you guys that got hit having problems with your e-mail? I'm unable to send e-mail half the time.. and have to wait an hour or so... This has been going on for a few days...

Just wondering if there is something on my mac or my IP provider that is related to all of this...

Grasping at straws and trying to punch out a ghost...

e-mail fine for me.... (yahoo mail)

 

[r8rphan]

I can not be mad at AHS for any of what happened to me.. especially without knowing the compromise was there.. but even if it was from their system, I have no issue with them... The people who do this sort of crap are not the people we are regularly doing business with..

the jackasses that do this crap are criminals.. plain and simple.. and they don't care who they hurt, be it the person who owns the account, or the businesses the customer interacts with.. or even the industry at large.. All they care about is themselves, and they'd sell their own mother on the corner for an easy buck...

In the end, all I want to know is where the problem was, and that it's been taken care of so that i don't have to worry about it anymore..

It sure would feel nice to know that those who purposely did this ended up in a cage for a while and suffered some severe loss many times over for the loss they caused...

I'm not a happy camper.... But I have no idea who to be unhappy at.. except for some faceless cowardly ghost out there in cyberspace...

So all I can do is be pissed at the situation in general.. Life will go on...

 

[Flomaster]

i too purchased from AHS and my bank account is not out of the ordinary. i heard that people can use a device and while you swipe your card in a supermarket or some other place it intercepts the info..

-=Jason=-

 

[funkadelicturkey]

...and again today...2nd time

 

[r8rphan]

i too purchased from AHS and my bank account is not out of the ordinary. i heard that people can use a device and while you swipe your card in a supermarket or some other place it intercepts the info..

-=Jason=-

That's just it.. You have no idea where this crap happens..

For all we know, there could be a rash of this crap happening across the country... They say credit card use is up for the first time in a long time.. maybe it's just a case of opportunists waiting for CC activity to start up again...

Bastiges!

 

[r8rphan]

Whoever it is sounds like they are going to be requesting a lot of vacation time since they bought tickets on Aeromexico on the other thread.

I wonder if it was an athletic looking middle aged black man driving a white bronco looking for a better get away vehicle....

Or maybe it was "LiLo"... This would explain why she kiped the necklace.. She was going on vacation and wanted some new bling for the trip...

 

[r8rphan]

The hosting is done with the most reputable company out there, it would not be appropriate for me to disclose server and security details. We have looked at the known facts, I have reviewed the logs and found no discrepancies.

Keep in mind that a large number of users on HBT are customers of AHS so percentage wise it is probable they have made a purchase with AHS in the last couple of weeks...

...but a number of people have chimed in to answer the original question of "Ever had a credit card number stolen???" and some of those people who replied with their stories of how they had credit card issues this or last week were not customers of Austin Homebrew.

Based on these facts, it is jumping the gun to say Austin Homebrew has been compromised.

You do realize that there's a certain ironic humor that the guy defending the honor of the company in this situation has a user name of 'infidel'...

Then again, my sense of humor is 'different'...

 

[r8rphan]

Strangely.. being violated has made me thirsty...
Then again, maybe I'm just always thirsty..
Miss keggy is calling.. TFB

 

[Toecutter]

Late last year i noticed 3 charges that had just been made with an online computer hardware retailer newegg.com. i called them to question the purchases, sure enough, someone had used my debit card #, and Newegg had already shipped (so they said), but not to my address. I asked for the address they shipped to but they refused. so they refered me to their fraud department, who told me to contact my bank.

Later that day i get a general E-mail from the CHI Company whom I had just purchased some Hops from, saying they had been hacked. So now I knew how they got the card #

As luck would have it, somehow Newegg managed to intercept the shipments, and refunded my money, but it took several days

i was lucky. I am diligent about checking my account daily online, just for reasons like this.

 

[passedpawn]

I just lost at ping pong twice in a row to my 13-yr old. (I should point out that I have not made any recent purchases from AHS, but I did purchase from BMW).

 

[gasser]

I had this happen to me recently too. The people at the bank said it was unlikely that an on-line purchase was to blame. Far more likely was a "skimmer" type operation where the magnetic strip on the card was decoded and then copied to another card with the thief's name on it. The scumbag doesn't pose as you, he has a fake card with your account info on it. It's funny, cuz I remember using my card at a gas station where the card slot looked a little funny. But it could have easily happened at a restaurant where an unscrupulous employee scans the card and sells the strip data.

Airline tickets, if full fare, are as good as cash. Good way to launder money. So you'll never find the criminal checking his bags at the airport.

So I asked if I should use cash in the future and the bank said "No way! Credit cards are insured."

Be careful, but don't stress too much about on-line purchases.

 

[gasser]

Oh yeah, and paypal is not all that secure. My account was hacked, paypal agreed that the charges were fraudulent and said I would be reimbursed. That was 2 years ago and I haven't seen a dime.

 

[pokerfreak2]

I haven't read every page of this thread but I got a call today about fraud charges in the Netherlands. I have ordered from AHS alot lately. So has someone contacted them at this point ?

 

[r8rphan]

Oh yeah, and paypal is not all that secure. My account was hacked, paypal agreed that the charges were fraudulent and said I would be reimbursed. That was 2 years ago and I haven't seen a dime.

Really?? That's good to know.. Anyone else had an experience like this?

Maybe I'll tie paypal just to my credit card... not directly to my checking account...

 

[vortexla]

I just purchased from AHS as well, and my credit card info was stolen and used to buy nearly $800 worth of stuff from somewhere.

 

[wildwest450]

Are you being sarcastic? I've always been under the impression that paypal was one of the least secure things on the internet. I thought I've heard that it's been phished and hacked repeatedly.....so I've always avoided. Is it really that secure and safe?

For once, no. Many, many dealings with them over the years, zero problems. I have more than a few friends who make a good living on ebay, after tens of thousands of transactions, no problems.



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