Dry Yeast for Lager Made With Pilsner Malt?

[rallenhall]

I used to do the "wet t-shirt and fan" process for summer basement lagers with WY2124 and they turned out well, even though I doubt if the actual fermentation temperature got below 60F. I'd expect 34/70 to have similar performance. Have done a number of Lutra "lagers" as well, and enjoyed them. Probably more in the blonde ale category, but I like good blondes. I used Lutra thinking that it would speed the process, but it took quite awhile to clear and condition so don't think that I saved all that much time.

 

[aceluby]

If looking for a clean lager without worrying about temp control, definitely check out Mangrove Jack's Cali Lager strain. Pretty sure it's an ale strain, technically, but it produces a far cleaner beer than lutra and doesn't have the esters like 34/70. Lately I've really enjoyed the 34/70 more because of the esters, but if I want something squeaky clean I reach for MJ's Cali Lager strain

 

[Clint Yeastwood]

We call the flesh under a fingernail the quick because it's alive and the nail is not.

 

[Miraculix]

Have you tried Lutra? That's the one that interests me.

I tried Lutra, it is the cleanest kveik I know of, but still miles away from a lager profile.

 

[Miraculix]

If looking for a clean lager without worrying about temp control, definitely check out Mangrove Jack's Cali Lager strain. Pretty sure it's an ale strain, technically, but it produces a far cleaner beer than lutra and doesn't have the esters like 34/70. Lately I've really enjoyed the 34/70 more because of the esters, but if I want something squeaky clean I reach for MJ's Cali Lager strain

3470 and esters? We must have used different yeasts. I have brewed many beers with 3470 at room temperature and it was always clean. No esters whatsoever.

I agree regarding the mangrove jack yeast, it is a great yeast for room temperature lager beer.

 

[Clint Yeastwood]

It's so funny to see people say "room temperature" when they mean 65 degrees. Life is different here. I have to remember I'm the outlier.

 

[Miraculix]

It's so funny to see people say "room temperature" when they mean 65 degrees. Life is different here. I have to remember I'm the outlier.

I am talking about 20 C.

 

[eliastheodosis]

3470 and esters? We must have used different yeasts. I have brewed many beers with 3470 at room temperature and it was always clean. No esters whatsoever.

Same. And I've femented it up to 18C/65F with those results.

It's so funny to see people say "room temperature" when they mean 65 degrees. Life is different here. I have to remember I'm the outlier.

Chicago area in a house built in the 50s. I've got the thermostat set to 68 and there are definitely spots in the house under 65F right now. It was maybe -5 or -10 here just a while back. Sometimes I forget there are areas of the country where lagers can never happen without scientific intervention...

 

[hbarsquared]

I've brewed faux-Pilsners with Lutra, both at ~20C and ~30C without temp control. They have turned out great, very drinkable and fairly clean. They aren't lagers though, and no experienced taster would confuse them for a beer brewed with lager yeast.

If you really need a beer on tap next week, you can make a great clean ale with Lutra, but if you want a lager you're going to have to wait.