American IPA Dogfish Head 60 Minute Clone (AG) & Extract

[Gnome]

Ok it's been a week in the primary and the activity has stowed to 1 bubble/ 21 seconds. What is the consensus time to rack to secondary and Dry Hop or wait 3 more days? SG was 1.021 on 12/27 PM(OG1.071-12/23 PM)

 

[discgolfin]

1.021 sounds like it has a bit more to go..I would wait another day or two and re-check

Jay

 

[Gnome]

OK just took hydro reading, 1.016@70f=1.017SG. 1 bubble/21 sec @ 730 am. How dry will it get?

 

[StankAle]

I plan on brewing this tomorrow and I am having a small but pressing problem:
The recipe has a total of 13.40 lbs. I plan on mashing in with 1.25Qts per LB, bringing me to about 4.2 gallons in the mash. This should give me about 3.5 gallons or so of first runnings. If I sparge with roughly the same amount of water that will bring me to about 7 gallons in the kettle. I will lose about a gallon to boiloff which puts 6 gallons in the fermenter, one more gallon than I want. ProMash shows the proper IBU's, ABV, etc. but I can't seem to figure out how to get the wort down to 5 gallons within a 60 minute boil.
Hopefully someone will shed some light as I plan on brewing this tomorrow morning.
Thanks everyone!:rockin:

 

[Yooper]

I'd boil a gallon or so off, then start my timing for my 60 minute boil. You need the malt in this one to make it work, so I wouldn't reduce the amount of the boil.

 

[StankAle]

OK Yooper that makes sense. I guess that the "60 Minute IPA" Title comes from when the hops are first added to the boil, not the entire boiling time.
Thanks again for the recipe I am certainly looking forward to brewing it. I will let you guys know how it goes.

 

[StankAle]

OK I just finished brewing the recipe. My efficiency was 78% which is great and the boils and everything went smoothly.
Until I forgot to drain about a half gallon of star san solution from my carboy before racking to it!!!
Is this going to ruin my beer? I know it must have diluted it because my original gravity went all the way down to 1.060 instead of the expected 1.072. Please let me know if I am screwed or not. I also used 2 vials of White Labs WLP001 yeast because I thought my gravity would be over 1.072. I wonder what that is going to do now that the gravity is much lower.
Also, I noticed that I lost about a gallon or so of wort in my kettle that was mixed in with the cold break. How do I get that precious wort to come out?
Thanks for the help, I really hope 5 hours of work isn't shot on one stupid star san mistake.

 

[freyguy]

The star san won't be a problem what so ever. I've read several stories where guys rack on top of that much or even more and the beer comes out just fine. Basically with the PH of the beer, the star san will break down into yeast nutrients, so you should have happy yeast!!

And two vials, no problem. Pretty much the equivalent of a yeast starter, and I normally use a starter on all my beers, even down to 1.050. Might wanna keep a close eye on it for blowoffs.

As far as the wort stuck, I'm not sure. I use a hop stopper and it gets dang near everything out of my kettle. May want to look into one. I love mine.

 

[Chris_Dog]

Wow fantastic Lorena!!! Thank you for sharing. I did my FG sample while kegging and almost poured a pint while it is flat!

 

[Yooper]

Glad you are liking it so far! I'm drinking one really early- I think I made it the day after you did, Chris, and I kegged it and dry hopped it one day last week. It's young, and I need to wait- but it sure is good! I hope you like the final product.

 

[discgolfin]

Bottled this today FG 1.016..very nice fruity aroma and taste

Nice recipe

Jay

 

[discgolfin]

I must say kudos on the recipe. I have never dry hopped with Amarillo and Simcoe combo and this thing smells like heaven..Very fruity and citricy..great!! I tasted fantastic at bottling..I am very excited about this and will run it into my regulcar IPA and pale ale rotation. I love Eds Stone IPA clone and plan on attempting Dudes pale ale as well. I love IPA and have done too many cream, blond, and wit beers for the family and friends and they either have to wait or learn to like some hops as I do.LOL

Nice recipe

Jay

 

[SW Brewer]

I made this a few months ago, and just cracked some of the bottles. I was worried, until reading here, that I had messed something up because it has a noticeable citrisy taste, almost like grapefruit. I had never had one of these before, but apparently that is what it is supposed to taste like? I am pretty pleased with it overall, and will likely make it again.

Thanks Yooper!

 

[Chris_Dog]

Fantastic Yooper... by far the best beer that I have made to date. Thank you for sharing!

Prost!

 

[BNVince]

I've had this in primary for 8 days now and it's still bubbling strong at 2-3 per minute. I'm not sure why fermentation is taking so long. I used Safale US-05 instead of pacman.

 

[MULE]

Good reviews. This will be my next batch for sure. Thanks !

 

[discgolfin]

A little update for those who are wanting to make this. I did a mash at 154..a bit higher and ended with a fg of 1.016 also a bit higher. I was going for a more malty attempt as per yoopers advice. I did a side by side and IMO it is a bit too sweet. I would shoot for 152 or 153 next time and try to dry out just a bit more. As for flavor and aroma this recipe is better..and 2 other tasters would agree. It has much more flavor and hop aroma. I did unfourtunatly even with irish moss have a bit of haze but not bad. I will brew this again and try it hit 152 and see how I like that.

Jay

 

[Bayes2112]

Hey all,

I'm planning to brew the extract version described in posts #27 and #29 this weekend. It'll be just the second batch of my "post-Mr. Beer" era.

I'm sorry if I'm posting a question with an obvious answer, but here it goes anyway.

YooperBrew included 1# of Crystal 40L in the extract conversion instead of the Marris Otter. But, I'm not sure if that was just in response to the poster that said their LHBS didn't carry Marris Otter. So, if my LHBS carries both, should I stick with the Marris Otter malt in the original recipe, or do I need to use the Crystal 40L for color, since I'm using a DME instead of full grain?

Thanks! I love the DFH 60, and I can't wait to try and duplicate it.

 

[Yooper]

Hey all,

I'm planning to brew the extract version described in posts #27 and #29 this weekend. It'll be just the second batch of my "post-Mr. Beer" era.

I'm sorry if I'm posting a question with an obvious answer, but here it goes anyway.

YooperBrew included 1# of Crystal 40L in the extract conversion instead of the Marris Otter. But, I'm not sure if that was just in response to the poster that said their LHBS didn't carry Marris Otter. So, if my LHBS carries both, should I stick with the Marris Otter malt in the original recipe, or do I need to use the Crystal 40L for color, since I'm using a DME instead of full grain?

Thanks! I love the DFH 60, and I can't wait to try and duplicate it.

Well, that's a good question! Let me think about it and let you know. You shouldn't need it for color since the DME will darken a little, but I think you may want it for some sweetness. When I made this, I mashed high to have some residual sweetness/body. Another poster thought that made it too sweet.

I guess my thinking is that the hops are so predominant, that the MO would get lost in there with the hops and DME, so the crystal might be a good choice for some more "backbone" that you might not get without it. I'm not sure if anyone who used crystal ever posted back on what they thought of it, though.

 

[discgolfin]

"I mashed high to have some residual sweetness/body. Another poster thought that made it too sweet. "

What was your mash and FG?
I was about 154 to 155 and fg of 1.016.
I think 153 should give me a nice balance.

Anyone else have a bit of chill haze? I think maybe a few more weeks at a cooler temp will clear this problem a bit.

Jay

 

[badun]

Do you have Beersmith? I have this recipe in Beersmith myself, and I could post that here if it'd help.

I don't see that you ever posted it here, but if you could do it that would be greatly appreciated!

 

[Yooper]

Sure, here they are:

Extract: View attachment dfhextract.bsm

All-grain: View attachment dfhag.bsm

 

[badun]

Thank you! I just put a Sierra Nevada Pale Ale recipe kit in the primary last night but this will be next batch.

 

[Bayes2112]

So, I brewed the extract version yesterday using the Crystal malt. OG: 1. 072

I'll let y'all know how it turned out for me in about 6 weeks.

 

[Yooper]

ok, some people have asked me to post the conversion with LME. This is what I came up with:

BeerSmith Recipe Printout - www.beersmith.com
Recipe: Copy of Dogfish Head 60 Clone
Brewer: Lorena
Asst Brewer:
Style: India Pale Ale
TYPE: Extract
Taste: (35.0)

Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Boil Size: 2.43 gal
Estimated OG: 1.072 SG
Estimated Color: 13.1 SRM
Estimated IBU: 49.7 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: - %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
------------
Amount Item Type % or IBU
9 lbs 14.4 oz Pale Liquid Extract (8.0 SRM) Extract 90.83 %
1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 9.17 %
1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -
1.25 oz Warrior [15.00 %] (60 min) Hops 26.6 IBU
0.50 oz Simcoe [12.00 %] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -
1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (35 min) Hops 10.0 IBU
1.00 oz Simcoe [12.00 %] (30 min) Hops 13.1 IBU


Mash Schedule: None
Total Grain Weight: 9.70 lb
----------------------------
Steep grains as desired (30-60 minutes)


Notes:
------
Pacman yeast used. Hops were added as continous- first warrior for the first 25 minutes, then all mixed continuosly at 35 minutes.

 

[discgolfin]

So after 2 more weeks in cold storage..This beer became crystal clear and hands down better than the original. Mainly because it has more hop flavor and aroma..all around fresher taste..I plan on making this again soon..I need to stock up on some more hops!!

At 3 weeks in bottle it was a bit hazy..and seemed to have way more hop aroma than flavor.. After it aged a bit more this is a very fine beer!!'

J

 

[Sir Humpsalot]

My constant low efficiencies bit me in the butt again. However, it finished around 6.3%ABV and the hops flavor/aroma is amazing!!!

I'm going to be making a gumballhead clone soon with a lot of amarillo and I'm really looking forward to it. The dry-hopped amarillo really came out nicely.

Thanks Yoop!!!

 

[natronicus]

So, from this thread I've seen three versions of this recipe (hops ignored):

AG (original recipe):

13 Pounds 2-row (US)
6 ounces Maris Otter malt

LME:

9 lbs 14.4 oz Pale Liquid Extract (8.0 SRM) Extract 90.83 %
1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 9.17 %

DME:

8 pounds 8 ounces DME
1 pound crystal 40L

So, if you wanted to do a PM, would the below be an acceptable recipe for the grains only?

I can only do around 2.5 gallon boils right now, so @ 1.25 qts / lb of grain, I can mash roughly 6.4 lbs in 2 gallons. Mashing in 2 gallons will allow sparging with up to .5 gallons water. (Which is more than would be needed, right?)

6.0 lbs Briess 2-row
6.0 oz Munton's Pale Ale Malt (Maris Otter substitute?)
5.0 lbs Pale LME
1.0 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt 40L
Hops adjusted for boil volume per beersmith

This is my first time to translate a recipe to something else, so please let me know if/where I've messed something up.

-n

 

[adx]

I'm not even sure if I would spend the time doing a PM. This is one of the recipes that is so simple that just using extract would probably be OK. However, if I was doing it as a PM I would stick with the original AG recipe. Then you would just use the 6 oz Marris Otter + 2-row up to your mash tun/kettle's capacity and then bump up to the OG with extract.

I'll probably just be doing the extract + 40L next weekend. I'm pumped about this one. DFH 60 is one of SWMBO's favorite beers.

 

[adx]

I took your BSM files and imported then into Beersmith, but it's showing 2 oz of Amber Malt instead of 2oz of MO. Did you change the recipe?