American Pale Ale Da Yooper's House Pale Ale

[FuriousE]

I have to agree with the general sentiment in this thread - this beer is fantastic! Great mix of malty and bitter. Very nice balance. Will rebrew soon with all amarillo.

 

[CanAusBrewer]

Just brewed this today as a partal mash BIAB with one can of light LME and ended up with much better efficiency then I expected. I expected 70% in my brewing software and ended up somewhere near 83% with OG 1.062. I hope it doesn't end up too strong.

Also dropped the cap from the yeast starter into the fermenter. Oops haha. See that thing again in a couple weeks!

 

[GonZolaB]

Did this one as a partial mash. Tasted after one week in the bottle, tastes great!! Cheers Yooper!

 

[CanAusBrewer]

Just had a bottle after only four days and our tasted good bit had a bit of a funky smell I haven't experienced before. Not necessarily bad but a bit weird. Kind of slightly skunky like fresh marijuana. Could it just be because it is still fermenting in the bottle or does this mean I have a contaminated batch? Did anyone experience this with this beer?
I used fourth generation US05 but I am a sticker with sanitation and wash my yeast and make starters.

 

[hopstupid]

Just had a bottle after only four days and our tasted good bit had a bit of a funky smell I haven't experienced before. Not necessarily bad but a bit weird. Kind of slightly skunky like fresh marijuana. Could it just be because it is still fermenting in the bottle or does this mean I have a contaminated batch? Did anyone experience this with this beer?
I used fourth generation US05 but I am a sticker with sanitation and wash my yeast and make starters.

probably the hops if it smells like cannabis unless your beer has been in the sunlight

 

[WIBrewer83]

I had an interesting brew day today with this recipe! After several "perfect" brew days, here's what happened today:

-fired up for mash out and somehow went from 155 to darn near boil in a few minutes! (I swear I walked away for 2 minutes) after some quick googling, no issue. Burner is more powerful than I thought.

-then, I tried doing my first primary in a better bottle carboy instead of a bucket. Long story short, my shoes and feet are a little sticky!

-brew day took longer than expected, so I guess I am going to try a semi no chill method....chilled to 100 then put in the ferm chamber to pitch later, which wasn't planned.

-somehow in all that, I hit 75% efficiency on a planned 65%!

Looking forward to trying this one and for smoother brew days!!

 

[mgr_stl]

When I downloaded Yooper's .bsm file and converted it to extract using my Beersmith equipment profile (9 gallon pot, full boil), here's what I got:

Steeping Grains:
5.2 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 1 3.5 %
5.2 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 2 3.5 %

Boil:
7 lbs 12.9 oz Pale Liquid Extract (8.0 SRM) Extract 3 83.0 %
15.2 oz Amber Liquid Extract (12.5 SRM) Extract 4 10.1 %
1.00 oz Cascade [8.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 5 23.2 IBUs
0.75 oz Cascade [8.00 %] - Boil 30.0 min Hop 6 13.4 IBUs
0.95 Items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 mins) Fining 7 -
1.00 oz Cascade (homegrown) [6.30 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 8 6.6 IBUs
0.50 oz Cascade (homegrown) [6.30 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 9 1.8 IBUs

Flame-out:
0.48 oz Cascade (homegrown) [6.30 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 0.0 min Hop 10 0.0 IBUs

Yeast:
1.0 pkg Safale US-05 (Fermentis #US-05) Yeast 11 -

Dry Hop:
0.95 oz Cascade [8.00 %] - Dry Hop 7.0 Days Hop 12 0.0 IBUs

Now for a couple questions:

#1 - I have homegrown Cascade hops I will be using with this recipe. Are the given amounts from the original recipe based on using whole, dried hop cones? If not, how would you recommend converting Yooper's recipe to dried hop cones? As Yooper does, I will use commercial hop pellets for the 60 and 30 minute additions.

#2 - I see that MoreBeer is having a 20%-off sale on Maris Otter malt extract (Use coupon code FRESHMARIS20 here). Based on the recipe Beersmith gave me, would you recommend using the Maris Otter extract in the link as the "7 lbs 12.9 oz - Pale Liquid Extract"? I see in the product description that the Maris Otter extract is 4-5 SRM, while the converted recipe calls for 8 SRM (pale) and 12.5 SRM (amber) extract. Do you think there is a better extract to use to better match Yooper's original recipe?

#3 - What would you recommend using for the "15.2 oz - Amber Liquid Extract"? Could I just up the Maris Otter extract a pound, or is the "amber" aspect of this important?

#4 - Should the dry hops be homegrown or commercial pellets?

That's all for now.... Thanks!

 

[mgr_stl]

Ok, I know I threw a lot at you in the last post, but could someone please chime in ASAP on the extract question I had? Would the Maris Otter liquid malt extract work well for this recipe? If so, I'd like to snag it before the sale ends. Thanks!

 

[rlmiller10]

I am not sure if anyone else has noticed this. But this recipe had the best head of anything I have brewed. I am not sure what it is that contributed but I am getting a rich head that lasts for the entire time. My last swallow is a mouthful of foam from the bottom of the glass. I followed the recipe as written other than using chinook and Brambling Cross hops (I like dank rather than citrus.)

 

[CanAusBrewer]

I am not sure if anyone else has noticed this. But this recipe had the best head of anything I have brewed. I am not sure what it is that contributed but I am getting a rich head that lasts for the entire time. My last swallow is a mouthful of foam from the bottom of the glass. I followed the recipe as written other than using chinook and Brambling Cross hops (I like dank rather than citrus.)

Couldn't read this without laughing a bit but agreed, this recipe gives great head!

 

[Yooper]

Sorry, but I just don't know. They didn't have Marris otter extract back when I was doing extract beers. I don't know if it is 100% Marris otter or if there something else and I don't know how to convert that.

 

[mgr_stl]

It is 100% Maris Otter, does that help?

 

[BrewinBromanite]

If you want to give it a try, just use enough of the Marris otter extract to get reasonably close to the estimated OG in the recipe. Should be good to go.


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[mgr_stl]

Do you think I'd be better off using the Maris otter for half of the extract and something else that more closely matches the vienna and munich from the original recipe?

 

[BrewinBromanite]

Also, I'd personally just use all marris otter extract, and leave out the amber extract (of course increase the MO to make up the difference). The amber will have more carapils or other caramel/crystal in it. You've already got the crystal malts for steeping accounted for, so I'd just stick with MO extract.


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[BrewinBromanite]

It's up to you. Vienna and Munich are base grains. You could do a mini mash with some Vienna and Munich along with the crystals. Or just steep some of them for some of their flavor - but you won't get much conversion out of them.


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[mgr_stl]

I think I'll go with your suggestion of using all Maris otter malt extract and some Vienna and Munich in my steep. Any suggestions on amounts for the Vienna and Munich?

 

[CanAusBrewer]

Why not just replace the base malt with LME and do a partial mash biab with the remainder of the grain bill. That's what I did for this recipe and it turned out great. I used one can of light LME and calculated the remainder I would need for 2row and kept the rest of the grain bill the same.

 

[mgr_stl]

I appreciate all the feedback, and am definitely open to any idea that fits my equipment setup and gets me closer to Yooper's recipe. I brew on a propane outdoor burner in a nine gallon pot.

CanAusBrewer - What would be your recommendation for ingredient amounts for your suggested recipe?

Thanks!

 

[CanAusBrewer]

CanAusBrewer - What would be your recommendation for ingredient amounts for your suggested recipe?

Thanks!

So I went ahead and made it more complicated for the Yanks by converted to metric. I have to convert every recipe I get off this forum to get my head around the quantities.

Anyway I just did a 60 min BIAB mash at 67 deg C and added one can of Cooper's Light LME to the kettle at flameout. I use this method for all my beers by substituting the majority of the base malt with one can or two of LME I can convert most all grain recipes to brew full batch sizes in a smaller kettle. I had over 82% efficiency on this one and got an actual OG of 1.062.

Cascade Pale
American Pale Ale

Recipe Specs
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Batch Size (L): 20.0
Total Grain (kg): 4.475
Total Hops (g): 133.00
Original Gravity (OG): 1.056 (°P): 13.8
Final Gravity (FG): 1.014 (°P): 3.6
Alcohol by Volume (ABV): 5.50 %
Colour (SRM): 9.7 (EBC): 19.1
Bitterness (IBU): 55.6 (Average)
Brewhouse Efficiency (%): 70
Boil Time (Minutes): 60

Grain Bill
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1.500 kg Liquid Malt Extract - Light (33.52%)
1.375 kg Vienna (30.73%)
0.900 kg Munich I (20.11%)
0.250 kg American 2-Row (5.59%)
0.225 kg Crystal 20 (5.03%)
0.225 kg Crystal 60 (5.03%)

Hop Bill
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28.0 g Cascade Pellet (7.8% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes (Boil) (1.4 g/L)
21.0 g Cascade Pellet (7.8% Alpha) @ 30 Minutes (Boil) (1 g/L)
28.0 g Cascade Pellet (7.8% Alpha) @ 10 Minutes (Boil) (1.4 g/L)
14.0 g Cascade Pellet (7.8% Alpha) @ 5 Minutes (Boil) (0.7 g/L)
14.0 g Cascade Pellet (7.8% Alpha) @ 0 Minutes (Boil) (0.7 g/L)
28.0 g Cascade Pellet (7.8% Alpha) @ 0 Days (Dry Hop) (1.4 g/L)

Misc Bill
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Single step Infusion at 66°C for 60 Minutes.
Fermented at 17°C with Safale US-05


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[ronjonacron]

I made a ba clutch of this with a large amount of marris otter, I'll find the recipe when I get home and post it up. I think I did wyeast 1450 too because I wanted it extra malty. One of my most well received from everyone at work.

 

[ronjonacron]

It may even be a few pages back in this thread.

 

[mgr_stl]

I found your post that had your hop schedule, but it didn't show your grains/extract.

 

[ronjonacron]

Looks like my grain bill was:

5# marris otter
3# Vienna
2# Munich

It looks like I also have
1# c40
.5# c 20
.5# carapils

But, I don't think there's anyway I would've put 2# of crystal in a 5 gallon batch. I remember the first 3 being about right though.

Hope that helps.

 

[rwgaro]

Bottled my first batch of this - wow tastes great flat and warm! Racked a gallon of it on 3/4 pounds of puréed roasted frozen beet as an experiment - we'll see how the final products compare...

 

[ballsy]

Bottled my first batch of this - wow tastes great flat and warm! Racked a gallon of it on 3/4 pounds of puréed roasted frozen beet as an experiment - we'll see how the final products compare...

????Wow, I had no clue beets could be roasted let alone go well in a beer. Wish I could try it though!

 

[rwgaro]

????Wow, I had no clue beets could be roasted let alone go well in a beer. Wish I could try it though!

Heh, no idea what it'll taste like, but wanted to try it via splitting a batch to see what it does - beet is supposed to add a ton of color (pink/red) and a bit of earthy beet flavor - we'll see what it does (I'll post some tasting notes in a few weeks)...

 

[CanAusBrewer]

????Wow, I had no clue beets could be roasted let alone go well in a beer. Wish I could try it though!

Roasted beetroot is delicious. Very popular here in Australia.

 

[Nightstrife]

I just finished my last bottle of this. Outstanding! The only difference is I added an extra pound of base malt (unsure of my efficiency) and I used white labs California ale yeast.

I was wondering if anyone has used galaxy hops in this? I recently had a Kona Big Wave and I like the hop taste, my understanding is its galaxy in the Kona Big Wave. just curious if anyone has and if so how did it come out?

Yooper thanks for the recipe!

 

[atimmerman88]

I brewed this this weekend. Used homegrown cascade centennial chinook since I didn't harvest enough cascade for all additions. 1450 yeast.

Looking forward to it as all of yoops recipes are outstanding


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