American Pale Ale Da Yooper's House Pale Ale

[passedpawn]

I've got a batch of this fermenting now. Woot! I played with the grain bill a bit since I was short on vienna, but otherwise it's pretty close. We'll see in a few weeks.

 

[LabRatBrewer]

Moved a keg today and the tape on it said Yoopers House Ale. I was so exited, I thought i must have brewed ten gallons instead of 5. As my first keg of Yooper Ale kicked early. Turns out I just forgot to change the tape when I racked a brown ale into the keg. Nothing wrong with the brown, but I really was in the mood for 5 bonus gallons. Next time I'll make ten.

 

[gbarron]

I made this one a few weeks ago and have had it on tap now for about a week. Very nice beer with great color. I went the traditional route and went all Cascade. Hit all the numbers exactly. Used WLP007 (dry English ale).

I'm wondering if anyone has ever put this into a BJCP comp in the APA category? It is a very malty beer in terms of malt flavor (not sweetness) - bready, nutty. I used MO and Munich and Vienna as listed in the first post. I like the flavors and it is a highly drinkable beer, but the malt flavors almost fit more in the English pale ale category (despite the obvious use of American hops). So I was just curious if anyone had ever sent this to a competition as an APA and the results.

 

[FATC1TY]

I made this one a few weeks ago and have had it on tap now for about a week. Very nice beer with great color. I went the traditional route and went all Cascade. Hit all the numbers exactly. Used WLP007 (dry English ale).

I'm wondering if anyone has ever put this into a BJCP comp in the APA category? It is a very malty beer in terms of malt flavor (not sweetness) - bready, nutty. I used MO and Munich and Vienna as listed in the first post. I like the flavors and it is a highly drinkable beer, but the malt flavors almost fit more in the English pale ale category (despite the obvious use of American hops). So I was just curious if anyone had ever sent this to a competition as an APA and the results.

I took this as a base, and ramped it up a bit. Plan to rebrew it as it was a fan favorite around my parts with my friends and co workers.. I plan to enter it into the IPA category, simply because of where I took it.

I'd suspect you'd be fine in the APA category if you hop it well enough to round off the malt a bit. Or mash low low low.

 

[jonmohno]

Wow,7 months bottled and this is still great, used the Ivanhoe hops. I think I may make this again my next batch using all Columbus-this time. May try that new Bry-97 if avalible also.

 

[FATC1TY]

Wow,7 months bottled and this is still great,use the Ivanhoe hops. I think I may make this again my next batch using all Columbus-this time. May try that new Bry-97 if avalible also.

The BRY97 yeast is pretty good, but be warned, it takes a while to get going, finishes fast once it starts, and takes a bit longer to clear. Leave a bit of a yeasty-ish finish on the nose of the beer if it's not dry hopped heavy.

 

[jonmohno]

The BRY97 yeast is pretty good, but be warned, it takes a while to get going, finishes fast once it starts, and takes a bit longer to clear. Leave a bit of a yeasty-ish finish on the nose of the beer if it's not dry hopped heavy.

Yeah,was reading some negative responses about this,but its worth a try to me,been hearing about the lag time,if my lhbs doesnt have it,guess I will try wlp001 liquid,which I havent ever tried yet.Ill probably dry hop it a bit more anyway,only because I can.

 

[RachEAlex]

Bottled my batch up today, gravity sample was tasty and the Falconers Flight hops I used smelled amazing...can't wait for these to carb up!

 

[BigB]

I'm wondering if anyone has ever put this into a BJCP comp in the APA category?

I've entered a nearly identical version (no vienna - all two row instead of vienna) and received 3 honorable mentions. (38, 38.5, and 39). All 3 of the comps had a huge amount of entries too.

 

[RugenBrau]

I don't have any Vienna. How would this work with 5lbs of Munich?

 

[FATC1TY]

I don't have any Vienna. How would this work with 5lbs of Munich?

Probably just as well. Maybe a bit bready and slightly darker in color. Maybe up the late additions of the hops to balance it back out if you want. I think it would be fine.

 

[RugenBrau]

I was going to dry hop with 2 oz. for 5 days

 

[FATC1TY]

I was going to dry hop with 2 oz. for 5 days

I'd do longer, but it's personal preference.

I'd suggest tossing some more in late in the boil, myself, but honestly, it's going to be subtle in your change in grain. The Munich will be a nice touch I think, so don't go wild with it. Just a stronger malt profile.

 

[jonmohno]

I don't have any Vienna. How would this work with 5lbs of Munich?

try half pilsner half munich or I would use like 2/3 pilsner 1/3 munich of your 5 #. Its about as close as you can get maybe without using vienna. I dont think I would use that much munich 5# to be close to this recipe. Not saying you may not like it, but just to be closer dont think I would use more than 3 if you dont have pilsner. I would think 2.5 and call it good with straight munich. Just my opinion.

 

[FATC1TY]

try half pilsner half munich or I would use like 2/3 pilsner 1/3 munich of your 5 #. Its about as close as you can get maybe without using vienna. I dont think I would use that much 5# to be close to this recipe. Not saying you may not like it, but just to be closer dont think I would use more than 3 if you dont have pilsner. I would think 2.5 and call it good with straight munich. Just my opinion.

I took Yoopers recipe as a base, and up'd all the malts and did my own hop schedule for a nice DIPA with a good malt back bone. I raised the munich more than the vienna, and even used maris otter for the base, which is way more flavorful and bready than 2 row.

I got the pronounced bready malt back bone, so I think he will be okay 5 # if he does a bit more in the hop schedule, it'll be a good beer, but won't be "close" to this recipe.

Yooper has a great recipe here, and she has a balanced one, but it's also a get recipe that you can tweak the additional malts a bit in any direction and have a great beer, that is what makes it so good.

That said, the pilsner idea is a great idea to divide it up if he doesn't want the really darker breadier flavor. Just be sure to do a 90 minute boil if you use the pilsner malt.

 

[LabRatBrewer]

Had a very nice Christmas Eve with Yopper's House Ale. Very well received by an odd and diverse crowd.

 

[RugenBrau]

Thanks.......I think patience will prevail. I 'll wait for the Vienna. Looks like a Munic SMaSH is up

 

[haeffnkr]

Hi,
I pulled a 9 day old sample of this and it was at 1.015, started at 1.052
Not sure if it will get much lower but I will let it sit in the primary for another 5-7 days and see.
The sample was great...I mean really great.

I tweaked the recipe based on what I had around -
4# 2 row
6# Vienna
2# Munich
.5# C40 and C80
Used Cascades and 5 minute addition of Williamette for 38 IBU
Pacman Yeast

thanks Kevin

 

[Runyanka]

Making this tomorrow, I received a Blichmann hop rocket for Christmas, so It will be my first time using it as well. I'm thinking about putting the 5 minute and flameout additions in the hop rocket. Any thoughts?

P.S. - This will be the fourth recipe of yours I have brewed, so I know it's going to be a winner!

 

[Chuckabrewski]

Looking to brew this on Sunday, I only have a 5 gallon mt so ill drop 1/2 lb off the 2 row and 1/4 lb off the munich and vienna. Does that sound good to everyone?

 

[Chuckabrewski]

So the LHBS didnt have any vienna and subbed it for 2 lb caravienna

 

[allenH]

So the LHBS didnt have any vienna and subbed it for 2 lb caravienna

Caravienne is a crystal malt, if that was their idea to sub that for Vienna, take it back. Subbing caravienne will give you 3lbs of crystal in a 11lb recipe.

 

[Chuckabrewski]

Yea i just looked it up. I wish I knew that earlier I cut the recipe down to 10lb so its 2lb caravienna in place of 3lb vienna. What is that going to do to the taste slightly sweeter?

 

[allenH]

Yea i just looked it up. I wish I knew that earlier I cut the recipe down to 10lb so its 2lb caravienna in place of 3lb vienna. What is that going to do to the taste slightly sweeter?

I made the same mistake before ordering online, it was only 1lb and there was only .5lb of c10 in the recipe (total of 1.5lb crystal) It was a totally different beer than intended, but it was drinkable. You have .5lb of C20, .5lb of C40 and 2lb of caravienne (which is very close to C20) For a total if 30% crystal malt. Someone with more experience will have to answer that for you.

 

[Chuckabrewski]

How did yours turn out?

 

[allenH]

How did yours turn out?

It was my first AG, so I was amazed by it. I do not know what 30% crystal will do in a pale ale though. If it was your LHBS idea to sub caravienne for Vienna, call them and take it back. They should know better.

*edit- I'm assuming this was mixed and crushed together

 

[Chuckabrewski]

It was my first AG, so I was amazed by it. I do not know what 30% crystal will do in a pale ale though. If it was your LHBS idea to sub caravienne for Vienna, call them and take it back. They should know better.

*edit- I'm assuming this was mixed and crushed together

sure is

 

[allenH]

sure is

I would call them and take it back, if it was your idea (they still should have questioned you) you would have to add 20lb of base, mix it well and divide it by 3 to come close to what the author intended. Or you can make it and let us know what 30% crystal is like in a pale, I have no clue what it would be like.
I have been drinking, so my math is most likely flawed.

 

[Chuckabrewski]

I would call them and take it back, if it was your idea (they still should have questioned you) you would have to add 20lb of base, mix it well and divide it by 3 to come close to what the author intended. Or you can make it and let us know what 30% crystal is like in a pale, I have no clue what it would be like.
I have been drinking, so my math is most likely flawed.

They are closed already and not open till Tuesday so I'm just going to brew it up. I have some corn sugar laying around ill toss in there too. At the end of the day it will still be beer.

 

[allenH]

They are closed already and not open till Tuesday so I'm just going to brew it up. I have some corn sugar laying around ill toss in there too. At the end of the day it will still be beer.

Best of luck to you, please report back and let us know how it turns out.