Creme Brulee Stout

[steelersrbrun]

I brewed this MONSTER yesterday....I wanted to rename it Jaws....when I mashed in the first thing I thought was...we're gonna need a bigger mash tun

I modified the recipe slightly and my efficiency was alot higher than I anticipated. Recipe is below. Adding the caramelized sugar to the boil was simply put, cool as hell. Fermenting like crazy right now at 68°.

My only issue with this recipe is that nothing is added to the secondary or keg for aroma. That beer has such a HUGE nose I can't imagine it all comes from kettle additions, but time will tell.

Prost!



BYO-Creme Brulee Imperial Stout
Type: All Grain Date: 3/10/2012
Batch Size (fermenter): 6.50 gal

Ingredients

Amt Name Type # %/IBU
19 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 4 74.9 %
2 lbs Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain 5 7.9 %
1 lbs 8.0 oz Barley, Flaked (1.7 SRM) Grain 6 5.9 %
1 lbs 8.0 oz Black (Patent) Malt (500.0 SRM) Grain 7 5.9 %
12.0 oz Cane (Beet) Sugar (0.0 SRM) Sugar 8 3.0 %
10.0 oz Lactose-add at 10 minutes (0.0 SRM) Sugar 9 2.5 %
1.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 10 26.3 IBUs
1.00 oz Chinook [13.00 %] - Boil 30.0 min Hop 11 18.8 IBUs
1.00 Items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 30.0 mins) Fining 12 -
3.00 Items Vanilla Bean-Halved/scraped (Boil 0.0 mins) Spice 13 -
1.00 tsp cardamom (Boil 0.0 mins) Spice 14 -
2.0 pkg Dry English Ale (White Labs #WLP007) 2100ML Starter-

Beer Profile

Measured Original Gravity: 1.112 :rockin:
Bitterness: 45.1 IBUs
Est Color: 38.4 SRM

Mash Profile

Mash Name: Single Infusion, Light Body, No Mash Out Total
Grain Weight: 25 lbs 6.0 oz

Mash In Add 7.50 gal of water at 170.7 F 155.0 F 90 min

**Left me about 1 inch to top of my mash tun

Sparge Step: Batch sparge with 2 steps (0.62gal, 3.70gal) of 168.0 F water

120 Minute Boil

SUGAR NOTE: 10 ozs table sugar used for pan caramelazation.

1 Oz. Each of table & corn sugar bruleed the day before, to be added at 15min.

Caramelized white cane sugar - place sugar in sauce pan over medium heat. stir constantly until it turns to a thick liquid and becomes a medium amber color. Add to wort before hardening with 2 minutes left in boil. **Caution when adding to kettle, but boil reaction is very cool to see **

Cardamom & vanilla beans added to flame out..remove vanilla beans when temp is dropped prior to final whirlpool and cover

Lots of O2 and pitched yeast

 

[JoeBronco]

I would assume that vanilla and/or vanilla beans could be added into secondary to give it the nose your looking for.

 

[ao125]

I brewed this MONSTER yesterday....I wanted to rename it Jaws....when I mashed in the first thing I thought was...we're gonna need a bigger mash tun

What size mash tun did you use? I have a 10gal Igloo and at most, I seem to be able to fit 15 lbs of grain.

 

[steelersrbrun]

What size mash tun did you use? I have a 10gal Igloo and at most, I seem to be able to fit 15 lbs of grain.

I have a 10 Gallon also....this would be the max you fit

 

[ao125]

Hah, fair enough...

I think I need to get one of the Home Depot ones. The Igloo one I have, has a lid that goes inside the mash tun, vs. the screw on that goes on the outside.

 

[steelersrbrun]

I would assume that vanilla and/or vanilla beans could be added into secondary to give it the nose your looking for.

It's a little more complex than vanilla....but perhaps the Cardamom and caramelized sugars will carry through and not get blown off in primary...can't wait to see how it turns out.

 

[MoeFoties]

Mine has been on gas for 2 weeks now. I sampled it after primary and wasn't happy with the lack of vanilla aroma. I added 2 vanilla beans to secondary for a week (split, but seeds left inside). It has too much vanilla now! I'm hoping it'll fade over time. It's taking a while to carb also...must be the 10%!

 

[steelersrbrun]

Mine has been on gas for 2 weeks now. I sampled it after primary and wasn't happy with the lack of vanilla aroma. I added 2 vanilla beans to secondary for a week (split, but seeds left inside). It has too much vanilla now! I'm hoping it'll fade over time. It's taking a while to carb also...must be the 10%!

Noted and appreciate it. If needed I will go with one and sample daily. The vanilla will meld after a while....I killed a stout once with a huge amount and it eventually came around.

 

[steelersrbrun]

Only six days in....Very tasty sample as well

 

[mpenn35]

Anyone have updates on how these turned out?

Also, can anyone help me convert this to an extract version?

 

[steelersrbrun]

Anyone have updates on how these turned out?

Also, can anyone help me convert this to an extract version?

Mine was infected....I had never had an infected beer and I guess I got lazy. Drain poured it last week, it still hurts. I will put up the extract version when I get home tonight unless someone else beats me to it.

 

[ghoti]

Does anybody have the extract version of this recipe?

 

[BigBlueDog]

The original recipe in the December 2011 issue of BYO was for 5 gallons, using a partial boil; extract with grains.

9.9 lbs. LME
0.5 lbs. DME
1.5 lbs. 2-row pale malt
1.5 lbs. flaked barley
1.5 lbs. Belgian black malt
10 oz. lactose
12 oz. caramelized white cane sugar
14.5 AAU Columbus (1 oz. 14.5% AA pellets @ 60 min.)
9.2 AAU Chinook (.75 oz. 12.3% AA pellets @ 30 min.)
1/2 tsp. Irish moss @ 30 min.
1/2 tsp. yeast nutrient @ 5 min.
1 tsp. cardamom powder @ flame out
3 vanilla beans, split and seeds removed, added @ flame out, then removed after a 20 minute rest

Crushed grains are steeped for 30 min @ 155F.

WLP007 (Dry English Ale) or WY1028 (London Ale)

 

[ao125]

I've heard through the grapevine that Southern Tier actually uses pre-packaged creme brulee flavoring from Bell Flavorings... which is semi disappointing.

 

[indianaroller]

I've heard through the grapevine that Southern Tier actually uses pre-packaged creme brulee flavoring from Bell Flavorings... which is semi disappointing.

Choklat too.

 

[mpenn35]

The original recipe in the December 2011 issue of BYO was for 5 gallons, using a partial boil; extract with grains.

9.9 lbs. LME
0.5 lbs. DME

Sorry for another question, but what kind of extract would be best? Light? Dark? I've never had the Southern Tier version, so I'm not sure exactly what it tastes like. This was a request from the girlfriend. I'll probably scale it down to a 2.5 gallon batch though.

 

[BigBlueDog]

Sorry for another question, but what kind of extract would be best? Light? Dark? I've never had the Southern Tier version, so I'm not sure exactly what it tastes like. This was a request from the girlfriend. I'll probably scale it down to a 2.5 gallon batch though.

I just noticed the recipe specifies light LME. The quantity of DME is so small in the scheme of things that it probably doesn't matter what you go with there. The black malt is going to impart most of the color.

 

[Bombeque]

What size mash tun did you use? I have a 10gal Igloo and at most, I seem to be able to fit 15 lbs of grain.

I have mashed 20 lbs of grain in the 10 gal. But had to use a low water to grain ratio

 

[idigg]

steelersrbrun - why is your receipe different than the first page? You added marris otter? I want to brew this but want more opinions on how it turned out for others, $60 worth of ingredients is a good amount of cash!!

Thanks
Justin

 

[steelersrbrun]

steelersrbrun - why is your receipe different than the first page? You added marris otter? I want to brew this but want more opinions on how it turned out for others, $60 worth of ingredients is a good amount of cash!!

Thanks
Justin

Because I am a homebrewer and I can I had the marris otter on hand and thought it might give a little more depth on the malt bill. I am still bummed about this beer having to be drain poured. It is an expensive brew but a great brewing experience and good way to test the limits of your system. If you think about it on a cost perspective it beats buying 5 gallons of the real thing.

 

[Nemleu]

I will be brewing next week, and leaning towards making it a Crème Brûlée Java Stout.

Post Boil Volume: 5.46 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.00 gal
Bottling Volume: 5.00 gal
Estimated OG: 1.080 SG
Estimated Color: 32.1 SRM
Estimated IBU: 64.7 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 75.9 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type
10 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain
1 lbs 4.0 oz Oats, Flaked (1.0 SRM) Grain
1 lbs Barley, Flaked (1.7 SRM) Grain
1 lbs Roasted Barley (300.0 SRM) Grain
8.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain
8.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 80L (80.0 SRM) Grain
4.0 oz Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain
1 lbs Milk Sugar (Lactose) (0.0 SRM) Sugar
1.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] - Boil 60. Hop
0.75 oz Chinook [13.00 %] - Boil 30.0 min Hop
0.25 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 10.0 mins) Fining
1.0 pkg London Ale III (Wyeast Labs #1318) [124. Yeast

 

[worxman02]

My wife loves creme brulee and especially lavender flavored ones. Do you think I could throw some lavender extract or oil in this recipe or would that taste really weird?

 

[Nemleu]

My wife loves creme brulee and especially lavender flavored ones. Do you think I could throw some lavender extract or oil in this recipe or would that taste really weird?

I would suggest that if you think your wife would like……. Brew it.

 

[steelersrbrun]

My wife loves creme brulee and especially lavender flavored ones. Do you think I could throw some lavender extract or oil in this recipe or would that taste really weird?

Not weird but I would guess it would be tough to pick up in a beer like this with all the dark malt. Figure out a lavender Creme brûlée blonde ale recipe and your wife will probably buy you a conical.

 

[Rideandbrew]

Drinking a Left Hand Nitro Milk Stout right now.
Intrigued with lactose at the moment,
Decided German purity laws can interfere with creativity.

 

[CidahMastah]

can't believe nobody reported back on the recipes results yet. To me that says people weren't thrilled. Too bad.

 

[worxman02]

Not weird but I would guess it would be tough to pick up in a beer like this with all the dark malt. Figure out a lavender Creme brûlée blonde ale recipe and your wife will probably buy you a conical.

Good point about the dark malt. Sounds like a plan. I'll have to make sure I have her sign an affidavit that says if she likes the beer I get a conical!

 

[Nemleu]

can't believe nobody reported back on the recipes results yet. To me that says people weren't thrilled. Too bad.

Well, ya don't know if ya don't go. I plan on brewing it this weekend and will keep you informed. I'm a member of a brew club that gives honest but constructive criticism. AHBA judges will give me the feedback... gulp!

 

[ao125]

You might want to try something like this, since the ST flavoring is artificial as well:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005ZU7EU4/?tag=skimlinks_replacement-20

or this:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002GJJR34/?tag=skimlinks_replacement-20

 

[CidahMastah]

Well, ya don't know if ya don't go. I plan on brewing it this weekend and will keep you informed. I'm a member of a brew club that gives honest but constructive criticism. AHBA judges will give me the feedback... gulp!

True. In my case I was planning to brew this for a friend who loves the beer. If it ain't dead on, I am not gonna try it haha.

I think the key lies in the artificial flavoring. Not to say you won't get a good stout.