Conan x WLP644 hybrid

[TravelingLight]

Anyone try this in a Ne IPA recipe yet?

I've used F1 in two NEIPAs thus far. Absolutely love it. This will likely become my house IPA yeast (at least for juicy IPAs). Hell, I haven't even brewed with the F1/C4 variant yet! I was thinking about trying it on my next NEIPA...but I'm brewing it for my wedding and kind of want to stick with F1 since I know that one so well. But I'll get around to C4 later this spring.

 

[milldoggy]

Been stepping up every 48 hrs, up to 1800 ml. I did not experience any slow lag times. Will be using it on this ne IPA that I typically do with Conan.

http://beersmithrecipes.com/viewrecipe/1403210/ne-base-ipa

 

[505-Brewer]

Think this yeast would work in an APA judged strictly by bjcp standards? Maybe mash a bit high so its not too dry or .........?

Sounds like it doesnt dry out too much like the "brett" parent strain......

 

[TheHairyHop]

my IPA came out pretty dry, but then again it was only base malt and oats. I'm going to try it with some caramel/cara malts when I'm back in the States

 

[TravelingLight]

my IPA came out pretty dry, but then again it was only base malt and oats. I'm going to try it with some caramel/cara malts when I'm back in the States

I've used F1 twice now, and it drops pretty good. Both beers went...

1.053 --> 1.004
1.060 --> 1.006

 

[plazola86]

Does anyone have any recommendations for fermentation temps? I want all the fruity esters from the yeast, don't know if I get those from the lower 60's or higher 60's. Ill be using it this coming weekend.

 

[user 204491]

I've used both F1 and F1C4 three times each in beers. Attenuation for both was as follows:

F1 - 76.5% > 89.9% > 84.2%

F1C4 - 78% > 77.8% > 74%

For both I follow the same fermentation schedule I do using Conan yeast:

Day 1 - 66
Day 2 - 68
Day 3 - 70
Day 4 - 72
Day 5 - 72
Day 6 - 75
Day 7 - 75

 

[runs4beer]

I've used both F1 and F1C4 three times each in beers. Attenuation for both was as follows:

F1 - 76.5% > 89.9% > 84.2%

F1C4 - 78% > 77.8% > 74%

For both I follow the same fermentation schedule I do using Conan yeast:

Day 1 - 66
Day 2 - 68
Day 3 - 70
Day 4 - 72
Day 5 - 72
Day 6 - 75
Day 7 - 75

Are you ramping between these temp? Or free rise or raising the heat all at once?

 

[user 204491]

Are you ramping between these temp? Or free rise or raising the heat all at once?

Ramping.

 

[runs4beer]

Added 6 pitches of both hybrids to the freezer. Adding more starter wort and back on the stir plate for a split batch next weekend.

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[plazola86]

Just brewed an IPA and pitched F1. OG 1.052 No activity yet, can't wait to see how it turns out!

 

[milldoggy]

Harvested my starters, started another 2l starter for a new day Friday. Here is what I am brewing

http://beersmithrecipes.com/viewrecipe/1403210/ne-base-ipa

Think I might use equinox and citra though.

 

[Krusch1]

How's the F1 flocc'ing so far? My buddy brewed a heavy Galaxy/Citra IPA, within 3 days, dropped fairly clear compared to Conan and 644.

 

[milldoggy]

Ended up brewing this.
http://beersmithrecipes.com/viewrecipe/1423755/ne-base-ipa-2

Day 5, just amazing smelling.

 

[TravelingLight]

Ended up brewing this.
http://beersmithrecipes.com/viewrecipe/1423755/ne-base-ipa-2

Day 5, just amazing smelling.

I'd love to see a picture of this one when it finishes up. One of my earlier iterations of NEIPA had honey malt in it and I think that's what made mine darker than I wanted. I'd like to see yours for comparison.

 

[milldoggy]

I'd love to see a picture of this one when it finishes up. One of my earlier iterations of NEIPA had honey malt in it and I think that's what made mine darker than I wanted. I'd like to see yours for comparison.

Have a version on tap with Conan and citra/mosiac. Could pour a glass for a pic, but little early and home with a sick 1.5 year old, that would not be responsible

 

[TravelingLight]

Have a version on tap with Conan and citra/mosiac. Could pour a glass for a pic, but little early and home with a sick 1.5 year old, that would not be responsible

Ha! Understandable. No rush.

How you like that citra/mosaic combo? I am in love with mosaic right now. My last (most successful) NEIPA was citra/mosaic/el dorado. But planning on all citra/mosaic (more mosaic than citra) for the next one.

 

[plazola86]

I'm kegging my first F1 beer today. I've cold crashed since Monday so that should have dropped everything that's going to drop. Basic IPA recipe with only 2 row and crystal. Ill post a pic later today.

 

[milldoggy]

Ha! Understandable. No rush.

How you like that citra/mosaic combo? I am in love with mosaic right now. My last (most successful) NEIPA was citra/mosaic/el dorado. But planning on all citra/mosaic (more mosaic than citra) for the next one.

Love it

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[plazola86]

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Not carbed, straight out of the fermenter after being cold crashed for 3 days. Not clear still some murky/haze to it.

 

[EcuPirate07]

Used F1, once it carbed up I really liked the mouthfeel and getting some nice stone fruits from the hops. Nice yeast, I think I'll try an all citra next time with the same water and malt bill. View attachment ImageUploadedByHome Brew1488768604.053883.jpg

 

[TravelingLight]

Used F1, once it carbed up I really liked the mouthfeel and getting some nice stone fruits from the hops. Nice yeast, I think I'll try an all citra next time with the same water and malt bill. View attachment 391652

Nice! Color looks great. Did you end up keeping the honey malt or nixing it?

 

[KyleF318is]

Used the F1 in a session IPA with only Amarillo. Not bad stone fruit - Peach characters. Amarillo/orange flavor is dominant. View attachment ImageUploadedByHome Brew1488822354.472633.jpg

 

[EcuPirate07]

Nice! Color looks great. Did you end up keeping the honey malt or nixing it?

I did not keep the honey. Just used 2 row oats, and barley

 

[makubex]

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Not carbed, straight out of the fermenter after being cold crashed for 3 days. Not clear still some murky/haze to it.

That's some crazy color. What'd the grain bill look like on this guy?

 

[plazola86]

10# pounds of 2 row
1# of crystal #40

More basic than basic pale ale formula. I've been using the same formula for a while. Same amount of crystal just darker color if I want a change. Color is easy, taste it where it gets hard!

 

[runs4beer]

Kegging my first split batch, tasting notes to follow.

25# Canada Pale ale malt
2# German wheat malt
2# 10°L crystal malt Bress
1# roller oats

2.5 oz Citra FWH
8 ml. Hop shot 60 minutes

2 oz Citra temp controlled whirlpool 180° f 30 minutes
2 oz X331 experimental hop whirlpool 180° f 30 minutes

2 oz Citratemp controlled whirlpool 180° f 15 minutes
2 oz X331 experimental hop whirlpool 180° f 15 minutes

Chill to 64°f, adjusted OG down to 1.065, split into two carboys pitched pitch 1200ml decanter starter of F1 and F1H1 into each.

Set the follow fermentation schedule on 2 individually STC1000+ in dorm fridges

Ramping between
66°f to 70°f over 72 hours >
70°f to 75° over 96 hours

F1 hit full krausen within 24 hours. F1H1 hit full krausen in 36 hours.
F1H1 didn't appear to fermentation as vigorously as F1. Both carboy were filled to the same volume, F1 blew off, F1H1 did not.

4 oz Simcoe Dry hop in primary just as krausen started to fall, 5.5 days after pitching yeast (split b/t both craboys).
I pulled samples just before dry hopping at 5.5 days
F1: 1.014
F1H1: 1.011

Today going into the keg they were down to:
F1: 1.011
F1H1: 1.009
About the experimental hop
http://www.farmhousebrewingsupply.com/x331-hop-pellets-4-oz/

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[GRBC]

Anybody have some F1/C4 you would be willing to send me? I have contacted the OP, but he isn't going to be growing more up until later this spring & i would like to try some in a brew for a local IPA comp. Will send you a bomber with the beer in xchg!

 

[plazola86]

Anybody have some F1H1 you would be willing to send me? I have contacted the OP, but he isn't going to growing more up until later this spring & i would like to try some in a brew for a local IPA comp. Will send you a bomber with the beer in xchg!

I got you. I just harvested some from a NE style IPA I made. I didn't wash it though (I don't feel the need too). I could build a starter and send you some that way you could get a fresher version. PM me if your interested.

 

[TravelingLight]

Anybody have some F1H1 you would be willing to send me? I have contacted the OP, but he isn't going to growing more up until later this spring & i would like to try some in a brew for a local IPA comp. Will send you a bomber with the beer in xchg!

I got you. I just harvested some from a NE style IPA I made. I didn't wash it though (I don't feel the need too). I could build a starter and send you some that way you could get a fresher version. PM me if your interested.

Let me know if this one doesn't work out. I've got F1 and F1C1 (where did the H come from? I thought it was F1C1?) and can slide some your way if necessary.