Coconut Milk DIPA - I have clues, but need help

[noslenwerd]

Can you give me some details on how you did the mango? Maybe I'll siphon off 1 gallon next time I make this and give that a try. I live in CA, so I dont get to try all these sweet and fruity east coast IPA's.

Sure.. what kind of details are you looking for exactly though?

If you are just looking for a good NE IPA base recipe, try this out. There is a group of homebrewers on facebook, and this is what most people work from. People have won awards with it.

http://beersmithrecipes.com/viewrecipe/1183248/thhb

 

[Crispyvelo]

Sorry if you've already answered this but, the 2lbs of coconut, Im assuming is pre-toast. If so, do you have a post weight? I'm going to use fresh coconut (plenty here on Guam!) and I know the starting weight is much heavier using fresh wet stuff. I made a coconut IPA while back and by the time it was toasted, I'd say it lost more than half the weight.

Sorry for the delayed response - yes, two pounds prior to toasting. For my first batch I carved up 4 raw coconuts (and it took forever!).

 

[Crispyvelo]

Going to give this a shot next using 100 percent citra, as I believe this is what Fieldwork uses in their Coconut Milk IIPA.

No, they use Mandarina/Citra/Galaxy.

 

[Crispyvelo]

That is very interesting. You have to really search your taste buds to taste the coconut in mine. It's there, but it weaves in and out of the taste. The tropical fruitiness is way more present with a nice hop backbone.



Also interesting notes in your lactose dosage. I only used about 3%, which is what I think Crispy's recipe called for. It mostly seems to just add to the body. 10% is what you would usually find in a sweet stout or something of that nature. Unfortunately I've never had Fieldworks, so I"m not sure how sweet it is, if at all.

One thing I did notice about mine now that I've had it kegged 2 weeks, is that the hops are more up front now, which is kind of backwards from what I know about IPA's. I wonder if that's due to some of the sweetness/fruitiness taking a bit of a back seat now that it's a couple of weeks old?

Yes, the small dose of lactose is just for body, not detectable sweetness. It just adds a roundness/weightiness that supports the coconut.

Also, one thing I've noticed about this beer is that it should be consumed as quickly as possible. You'll notice the tropical coconut aroma fades pretty quickly...as it, it will be best the first week or two, then start to degrade. It's still fine a month or 2 in the bottle, but it loses that "special" quality you get in the first week or two.

If you find the coconut too strong, give it a week or two and you will see it fade., which might be bette suited for your palate.

Cheers!

 

[noslenwerd]

Yes, the small dose of lactose is just for body, not detectable sweetness. It just adds a roundness/weightiness that supports the coconut.

Also, one thing I've noticed about this beer is that it should be consumed as quickly as possible. You'll notice the tropical coconut aroma fades pretty quickly...as it, it will be best the first week or two, then start to degrade. It's still fine a month or 2 in the bottle, but it loses that "special" quality you get in the first week or two.

If you find the coconut too strong, give it a week or two and you will see it fade., which might be bette suited for your palate.

Cheers!

Thanks again for all the guidance..

Curious if you have ever had any tired hands milkshakes? I guess that is what I am comparing the homebrew to. TH milkshakes are NOT subtle in any way, the fruit, the lactose, hop bitternes etc.

 

[Enemygod]

It's still fine a month or 2 in the bottle, but it loses that "special" quality you get in the first week or two.

I agree with this completely. 2 weeks later it's still very good and enjoyable, but that "special" quality has definitely faded or changed.

Curious if you have ever had any tired hands milkshakes? I guess that is what I am comparing the homebrew to. TH milkshakes are NOT subtle in any way, the fruit, the lactose, hop bitternes etc.

Unfortunately I have not had the pleasure of having any TH milkshakes. Feel free to send us a bottle or 2 though!

 

[hopularkid]

Brewing this today. Will post updates [emoji482]

 

[kingmatt]

No, they use Mandarina/Citra/Galaxy.

Hmmm, I wonder if they change their hop bill periodically because I had it on pretty good authority that it was 100 percent citra, at least at one point. That is also what their website (and the can) reflects...

 

[Crispyvelo]

Hmmm, I wonder if they change their hop bill periodically because I had it on pretty good authority that it was 100 percent citra, at least at one point. That is also what their website (and the can) reflects...

Oh that's interesting....I wonder if they've been refining their recipe. Now someone needs to brew it with 100% citra and report back!

 

[hopularkid]

Hit above my target og. Getting good efficiency with BIAB and a 15 min soak sparge. View attachment ImageUploadedByHome Brew1490223066.789150.jpg she's bubblin away

 

[Enemygod]

Hit above my target og. Getting good efficiency with BIAB and a 15 min soak sparge. she's bubblin away

Nice, keep us updated!

 

[Enemygod]

Hmmm, I wonder if they change their hop bill periodically because I had it on pretty good authority that it was 100 percent citra, at least at one point. That is also what their website (and the can) reflects...

I assume you are going off this? It almost seems incomplete to me.

 

[kingmatt]

I assume you are going off this? It almost seems incomplete to me.

That, the can and a friend who did some work for the brewery awhile back:
http://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t5...g?ig_cache_key=MTQ0MjU0Mjc2OTg1NDg5NDkxMw==.2

Like I said, it's very likely they change their hops regularly or at least have changed it since my friends info.

 

[Crispyvelo]

Hit above my target og. Getting good efficiency with BIAB and a 15 min soak sparge. View attachment 393743 she's bubblin away

What kind of Gravity reader is that? It looks high-tech!

 

[Crispyvelo]

That, the can and a friend who did some work for the brewery awhile back:
http://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t5...g?ig_cache_key=MTQ0MjU0Mjc2OTg1NDg5NDkxMw==.2

Like I said, it's very likely they change their hops regularly or at least have changed it since my friends info.

I just confirmed that the recipe evolved. We were both right

 

[hopularkid]

I just started using Mr. Malty because I was having problems hitting my FG. Turns out i underpitched quite a bit on this one.(reading around 1.040!, after almost 2 weeks) I already added the coconut & dry hops. just added some more yeast to finish up. Will this affect the flavor?

 

[n61870]

Sorry for the delayed response - yes, two pounds prior to toasting. For my first batch I carved up 4 raw coconuts (and it took forever!).

Thanks

 

[kingmatt]

I just started using Mr. Malty because I was having problems hitting my FG. Turns out i underpitched quite a bit on this one.(reading around 1.040!, after almost 2 weeks) I already added the coconut & dry hops. just added some more yeast to finish up. Will this affect the flavor?

Fermentation will likely 'scrub' a good amount of your hop and coconut aroma and flavor. Taste it when you hit your FG and decide whether an additional hop/coconut addition is needed.

 

[Crispyvelo]

I just started using Mr. Malty because I was having problems hitting my FG. Turns out i underpitched quite a bit on this one.(reading around 1.040!, after almost 2 weeks) I already added the coconut & dry hops. just added some more yeast to finish up. Will this affect the flavor?

Any updates? Did it kick back up yet?

Any other tasting reviews from anyone that's tried brewing this lately??

 

[bigplunkett]

I can see coconut and citrusy tropical hops but the sweet lacto...... i guess id have to try it. Is it just a subtle sweetness or is it like a milk stoat?

 

[Crispyvelo]

I can see coconut and citrusy tropical hops but the sweet lacto...... i guess id have to try it. Is it just a subtle sweetness or is it like a milk stoat?

I am NOT a fan of sweet beers. That said, the amount of lactose listed in the original recipe will only add to the body of the beer and not make it sweet tasting at all. Trust me...I'm pretty sensitive to that as well.

 

[hopularkid]

Any updates? Did it kick back up yet?

Any other tasting reviews from anyone that's tried brewing this lately??

So I wasn't using the damn refractometer calculator. I've been hitting my numbers after all! I just bottled these lovelies last weekend. I tasted while bottling and it tastes SO GOOD!

I would say that you should def use a muslin bag. Got so frustrated I left a bunch in the fermenter because my auto siphon was getting clogged like ****. (& I used a bouncer filter, clogged that too) Will be making this again soon. Will post pics with tasting notes.

 

[hopularkid]

What kind of Gravity reader is that? It looks high-tech!

refractometer. $30 on amazon https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AOCKWMU/?tag=skimlinks_replacement-20 makes getting og & fg a lot easier, only takes a few drops. just make sure you use a calculator for fg, this is the best one after a lot of research: http://seanterrill.com/2012/01/06/refractometer-calculator/

 

[Crispyvelo]

So I wasn't using the damn refractometer calculator. I've been hitting my numbers after all! I just bottled these lovelies last weekend. I tasted while bottling and it tastes SO GOOD!

I would say that you should def use a muslin bag. Got so frustrated I left a bunch in the fermenter because my auto siphon was getting clogged like ****. (& I used a bouncer filter, clogged that too) Will be making this again soon. Will post pics with tasting notes.

Thanks for sharing. Post a pic! So glad you hit your numbers after all

 

[hopularkid]

Been in bottles for a week. It has an amazing coconut nose. Nice sweetness, slight booziness (you can tell it's a DIPA) good bitter balance. Very good beer. My fave IPA I've made. I'm sure it will smooth out and get better by next week. Will definitely be brewing again this season! View attachment ImageUploadedByHome Brew1492562470.304595.jpg

 

[Crispyvelo]

Been in bottles for a week. It has an amazing coconut nose. Nice sweetness, slight booziness (you can tell it's a DIPA) good bitter balance. Very good beer. My fave IPA I've made. I'm sure it will smooth out and get better by next week. Will definitely be brewing again this season! View attachment 397118

Nice pic! I'm out of my first two batches....time to brew it again!

 

[peterthomasu]

Sorry for the delay! Here is the recipe I used for my second batch, slightly adjusted from round 1.

Fermentables:
14lb 2-row
.6lb Crystal 40L
.6lb Carapils
.75lb white sugar

Hops:
60min - 1oz Columbus
30min - .5oz Columbus
5min- .5oz Simcoe
5min - .5oz Mosaic
0min - 1oz Citra
10 days dry hop - 1.5oz Galaxy
10 days dry hop - 1.5oz Mosaic
10 days dry hop - .5oz Citra
5 days dry hop - .5oz Mosaic
5 days dry hop - .5oz Simcoe

Other ingredients:
15min - 8oz Lactose sugar
10 days dry hop - 2lb Toasted coconut (make sure you buy plain coconut, no sugar added. Toast it yourself on a cookie sheet @300F for about 30min, stirring it around a few times so it browns evenly. Also, the first time I bought whole coconuts and took the meat out and diced it up. Tons of work. The second time I bought shredded coconut from Whole Foods, but I did have some problems with a stuck siphon when I was transferring to the bottling bucket. Next time I'll look for coconut flakes instead of shredded in the bulk bin section at Whole Foods.)

Us-05 yeast
Mash a bit high (154F) to keep some residual sugar after fermentation is complete.

That's it's! I'm NOT a 'sweet' beer fan at all. Usually I brew very dry beers that end up with FG around 1.006. But this beer ends up around 1.012 but it just provides body, not sweetness. Also, the coconut is totally present, but not overwhelming. Everyone who has tried this brew loves it.

Let me me know if you like it!!

Hi friends,

I hope you can understand my English.

When you say:

10 days dry hop - 1.5oz Galaxy
10 days dry hop - 1.5oz Mosaic
10 days dry hop - .5oz Citra
5 days dry hop - .5oz Mosaic
5 days dry hop - .5oz Simcoe
10 days dry hop - 2lb Toasted coconut

Is it in sequence? I mean put the 10 day hops, wait 10 days, put the 5 days hops, wait 5 days then put the coconut and wait 10 days. Or its in total? Put the 10 days hops and the coconut, after 5 days i put the 5 days hop and wait more 5 days and its done?


Thanks,

BR from Brazil

 

[Enemygod]

Or its in total? Put the 10 days hops and the coconut, after 5 days i put the 5 days hop and wait more 5 days and its done?

This way.

 

[peterthomasu]

This way.

Thank you!

 

[Crispyvelo]

Hi friends,

I hope you can understand my English.

When you say:

10 days dry hop - 1.5oz Galaxy
10 days dry hop - 1.5oz Mosaic
10 days dry hop - .5oz Citra
5 days dry hop - .5oz Mosaic
5 days dry hop - .5oz Simcoe
10 days dry hop - 2lb Toasted coconut

Is it in sequence? I mean put the 10 day hops, wait 10 days, put the 5 days hops, wait 5 days then put the coconut and wait 10 days. Or its in total? Put the 10 days hops and the coconut, after 5 days i put the 5 days hop and wait more 5 days and its done?


Thanks,

BR from Brazil

Sorry for the delay - it's in total. So when you are ready to start dry hopping the longest duration addition goes in and the timer begins, 5 days later put the 5-day hops in. Those are total durations listed