Clean VS Sanitized

[Tiber_Brew]

Steam can actually be HOTTER than boiling water so I don't doubt it will sanitize. But it could also release chemicals from the plastic that boiling water never would, because once again, steam can be hotter than boiling water. I doubt that'll happen, but theoretically it could be subjecting the plastic to temperatures much higher than it was rated for, having the exact opposite effect he is looking for, which is to sanitize without exposing himself to "toxic" sanitizers.

Just to be clear, steam isn't hotter than boiling water; it has more energy (latent heat). If that fermentor is rated past 212F, it should be fine with steam at atmospheric pressure.

 

[mcspanner]

Just to be clear, steam isn't hotter than boiling water; it has more energy (latent heat). If that fermentor is rated past 212F, it should be fine with steam at atmospheric pressure.

This. You'd have a rocket fermenter from the pressure long before the steam would get much hotter than boiling.

 

[k-moe]

any tips for avoiding the use of chemicals?

If you stop using chemicals you'll, quite literally, die.
Please don't stop using chemicals.
Please do continue to learn about chemistry, and how toxicity is related to dosage and use.

 

[AkBrew907]

If you stop using chemicals you'll, quite literally, die.
Please don't stop using chemicals.
Please do continue to learn about chemistry, and how toxicity is related to dosage and use.

But the chemikillz and poison and natural news and food babe and ignorance.......


Ugh...

 

[Izzie1701]

There is a commercial winery near me and they don't use any chemicals or sulphites. Just pure wine as they call it. They do sterilize everything with steam though. I'm sure if you have a big enough kettle or boil pot you could just soak everything on boiling water. Not sure how the hydrometer would hold up though.

 

[elsphinc]

Antibacterial hand sanitizers lead to super bugs not sanitized fermentations

 

[madscientist451]

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[madscientist451]

If you stop using chemicals you'll, quite literally, die.
Please don't stop using chemicals.
Please do continue to learn about chemistry, and how toxicity is related to dosage and use.

Part of the above post was the question: "Any tips on avoiding chemicals".
That question was from the OP?
BTW, I've been making and drinking cider for years (lots of it) without chemicals added and I'm not dead yet. I am a big fan of star-san and use it often, so I guess I'm chemical dependent.

 

[GrogNerd]

clean everything pre-boil, sanitize everything post-boil.

I think it's one of the few things "you should..." do in this hobby/obsession. It's called "best practices" and better brewers than me told me this and I believe them

but how you clean, how you sanitize is completely up to you. I use star-san, you don't have to

good luck with this and all future brews.

anyone have a link to the video of the guy with the surgical mask freaking out on a speck of dust in his sterile brew room? OP really should watch that one and see what happens when you take too far the practical suggestions others have made in this thread

 

[GuldTuborg]

Antibacterial hand sanitizers lead to super bugs not sanitized fermentations

There's problem #1. Don't use hand sanitizers in your brew.

Or did you mean the ones with ethanol as the active ingredient? You should definitely stop using anything with ethanol.

 

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[k-moe]

so I guess I'm chemical dependent.

You could say that we are all chemically dependent (in the most literal of senses).

Speaking of cider;
Who here has ever looked at what an apple is made of (including organically grown apples)?