Classic hops that still work in modern IPAs?

[jfolks]

What "classic"/new age hop combos do you all think would go well in the types of citrusy/tropical IPAs that are coming out now? Now adays, the really good pro IPAs use Azzaca, Galaxy, Mosaic, Citra, Ella, and so on - unfortunately these are not the types of hops I [can] grow in my back yard.

Does anyone have any tried and true classic/new age hop combos for making really good 'modern' citrusy/tropical IPAs? I really want to brew IPAs like that, but I also need to use more of the centennial, cascade, and chinook I grow!

 

[sonofred]

Just kegged an IPA that used mainly Chinook and Cascade and its nice and citrusy. Those 'classics' hold their own just fine.

 

[m00ps]

simcoe has a peachy/tropical side that is often overlooked

but you cant define "modern" IPAs by only tropical. Dank/resiny IPAs are also all oveer the place and this is where some "black sheep" of older variatals shine

comet is a prime example. From what I remember, it predates cascade, but brewers found the intensity of its aroma and flavor late boil offensive. Its super dank and grapefruity. Apollo and summit only survived because they started using them for their bittering properties. Both of these hops can provide great orange and dank sticky resiny aromas late boil or dry hopping

 

[JonM]

I'm in the same boat as you (although full confession: I have a Mosaic Pale ale in the fermenter right now). I recently did a Nugget/Centennial IPA that was awesome. The nugget adds a flavor and aroma that is positively orange - not kinda like orange, but like biting into a fresh orange. It was really good.

Also, you can never go wrong with Columbus.

 

[Yooper]

I grow Columbus, centennial, cascade, chinook, northern brewer, hallertauer, and EKG. I don't even harvest some of them any more, like the hallertauer, since I don't use those, but the chinook, centennial and cascade are used in many IPAs and APAs. That is a classic combo, and with a little Columbus in there at times, I have some great IPAs from them.

 

[JonM]

I grow Columbus, centennial, cascade, chinook, northern brewer, hallertauer, and EKG.

Okay, now that's awesome.

 

[Homercidal]

Same as Yooper, I think I harvested one season of Hallertauer. It actually worked well in my lager. Almost not worth growing here, TBH, though.

Cascade and Centennial are great. Columbus is good. I don't grow that one, but a friend uses it in almost every beer he makes.

Chinook is a great IPA hop as well, and can really add a nice aromatic.

 

[ong]

comet is a prime example. From what I remember, it predates cascade, but brewers found the intensity of its aroma and flavor late boil offensive. Its super dank and grapefruity. Apollo and summit only survived because they started using them for their bittering properties. Both of these hops can provide great orange and dank sticky resiny aromas late boil or dry hopping

I actually think Comet is a fantastic hop for hopstands and dry hopping. Pure grapefruit zest. I've been searching for a rhizome for years (it's non-proprietary, but seems to have almost no commercial availability).

Summit, on the other hand, is still patented and not available to home growers at all. I think Apollo is as well.

I grow Cascade, Centennial, CTZ, Nugget, Goldings, Chinook, and new this year, Sorachi Ace.

 

[Homercidal]

If you want grapefruit zest flavor, why not just use grapefruit zest? Works in Wits. I've had good luck using various peels in pale ales.

 

[beergolf]

Cascade or Centennial mixed with Chinook is a very clasic hop combo, that still is one of my favorites.

 

[jfolks]

Maybe my thread title wasn't clear enough, but I wasn't trying to start a discussion about the merits of classic hops. Conversely, I was looking for tried and true classic/modern hops combos. I want to brew Sticky Hands, Trillium, Tree House, etc. style IPAs - but I want to use some of my classic hops along the way.

I know there are some great Mosaic/Columbus IPAs out there. What other classic/modern combos are yall digging on?

 

[JonM]

There's a brewery in Eau Claire, WI that uses a combo of Citra and Centennial, which is awesome. That's the next combo I'm going to try.

 

[jjeffers09]

Columbus, Challenger, Magnum, Nugget, Pilgrim, and Warrior all great bitter hops. Most of those are dual purpose

 

[rhys333]

Same as Yooper, I think I harvested one season of Hallertauer. It actually worked well in my lager. Almost not worth growing here, TBH, though.

Have you considered growing Mt. Hood as a Hallertauer substitute? They do a lot better in terms of growth output.

 

[Homercidal]

Have you considered growing Mt. Hood as a Hallertauer substitute? They do a lot better in terms of growth output.

No. I have never read up on them. I'm interested in anything that will grow well and produce.

I'm not doing my Hallertauer any favors where they are at. They don't get as much sun as I expected. I may move them at some point. I have a good-sized yard with plenty of open space if I decide to use it.

 

[Neptune]

I've been keying in on the Citra and Chinook combo lately. Love that combo.

 

[jfolks]

Keep 'em coming! Think I might do Chinook, Centennial, Citra, and Mosaic in a East Coast style IPA (w/ brett) this weekend.

 

[Homercidal]

Keep 'em coming! Think I might do Chinook, Centennial, Citra, and Mosaic in a East Coast style IPA (w/ brett) this weekend.

If you add Brett, it's not an IPA, it's a TRAVESTY!

 

[JKaranka]

If you add Brett, it's not an IPA, it's a TRAVESTY!

It's actually illegal. I can provide you with an address to dispose of them without alerting the authorities.

 

[crusader1612]

Interested in this thread
In the middle of designing a Rye IPA currently.
Plan is nice simple and a golden light colour
12oz Pale Crystal
2lbs Rye Malt
Pale Malt to 1.065

1oz Chinook @60
1.5 oz Styrian Golding @30
1.75oz Chinook @5
1.5 oz Centennial @0
1.5oz Cascade @0
Dryhop 1.75oz Each Centennial and Cascade

US-05 Yeast. Mash low looking for 1010-ish

Thoughts on this, its using the classic hops....