Caramel cream ale?

[Cheesefood]

OK, I do have one question that Im sure was gone over before, I just dont want to reread the whole thread, and was hoping someone could answer this. Since wheat dosent clear all to well, how long did you guys leave this in the secondary? I was thinking a week to 10 days.

1 week in primary
2 weeks in secondary
3 weeks in the bottle
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123 Brewing Method

 

[shbrewer]

Where do i find light wheat DME. All I have found is just Wheat DME, is that the same?. Will that make a major difference?

 

[McKBrew]

I seem to have a big problem picking my next brew. I'll think about it for a few days, then run to the LHBS and use one of theirs at the spur of the moment (which mostly haven't been too sucessful). I have heard nothing but good things about this one, so I'm going to brew it (next weekend maybe).

I don't think my LHBS has wheat DME, so I'll probably be substituting LME for that part, but other than that, it should be pretty much be the same.

 

[DeadYetiBrew]

Where do i find light wheat DME. All I have found is just Wheat DME, is that the same?. Will that make a major difference?

The only difference is color... Yours will be a little darker than his, pretty sure i used regular Wheat DME too... It still wasn't very dark and looked great... Don't worry about being exact as long as it's not Extra Dark Wheat DME lol...

 

[DeadYetiBrew]

I seem to have a big problem picking my next brew. I'll think about it for a few days, then run to the LHBS and use one of theirs at the spur of the moment (which mostly haven't been too sucessful). I have heard nothing but good things about this one, so I'm going to brew it (next weekend maybe).

I don't think my LHBS has wheat DME, so I'll probably be substituting LME for that part, but other than that, it should be pretty much be the same.

You never know till you ask them. Some of the stuff I thought my LHBS wouldn't have he's had, and I thougt he would have the yeast pack I needed for this recipe, but didn't. So you could always call them and tell them what you need they could have some shipped in before you plan to brew.

 

[JohnnyK68]

Where do i find light wheat DME. All I have found is just Wheat DME, is that the same?. Will that make a major difference?

I used plain M&F wheat and I think I got the same color as the pic. This is some highly anticipated stuff around here with myself and a few friends. I hope its as good as it smelled and the test cylinder sample was. I personally am thinking it will be better.

 

[shbrewer]

Thanks Johnny and Deadyeti, I will be trying this soon

 

[Evets]

I'm too lazy to read all 28 pages so I'll just go ahead and ask. Has anyone converted this to AG yet?

 

[BierMuncher]

Well... Just taped my all grain version of Cheese's Caramel Cream Ale. I have to say this is an absolutely wounderful beer. I will definately be brewing this again.
Thank you Cheese for puting this recipe on the forum for all to share, again outstanding brew.

Okay guys and gals. I see and hear references to AG successes with this recipe, but I've yet to see the "definitive" AG recipe. Can anyone please post what they think is the AG version?

You all have me chomping at the bit, but I've just converted over to AG and want to give this one a try. :cross:

 

[Reverend JC]

look somewhere in the first 5 pages of this thread to find the AG recipe.

 

[Hopfan]

or just look here:


Originally Posted by sonvolt
Can someone post or link to an AG version of this . . . ?

Maybe this?
You can add the vanilla, DME, and Lactose at bottling.

A ProMash Recipe Report

Recipe Specifics
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Batch Size (Gal): 5.00 Wort Size (Gal): 5.00
Total Grain (Lbs): 9.25
Anticipated OG: 1.052 Plato: 12.91
Anticipated SRM: 9.6
Anticipated IBU: 28.9
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75 %
Wort Boil Time: 60 Minutes


Grain/Extract/Sugar

% Amount Name Origin Potential SRM
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48.6 4.50 lbs. American 2-row America 1.038 2
37.8 3.50 lbs. Wheat Malt Belgium 1.038 2
10.8 1.00 lbs. Crystal 60L America 1.034 60
2.7 0.25 lbs. Milk Sugar Generic 1.030 0

Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.


Hops

Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
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1.00 oz. Cascade Whole 5.80 25.7 60 min.
0.50 oz. Saazer Whole 4.30 3.2 20 min.
0.50 oz. Tettnanger Tettnang Whole 4.50 0.0 0 min.


Yeast Edit: I'm no expert as to what strain of yeast to use.
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[Ó Flannagáin]

Hell yea, just put in my order for the ingredients... can't wait to brew this one up.

 

[JohnnyK68]

I racked this a week ago with a gravity of 1.04 I believe, I would have too look at the note card for it. However, after a week I am still getting perhaps a bubble every 1.5 minutes in the secondary. Its got me a little suprised. The only thing I did different was I had a packet of Safale - 56 that I used for the yeast. I was going to use the 1084 that I had but decided to go with the safale. Hope it dosent ferment it too dry. I guess with adding the lactose at bottling that will correct it anyways, but I wish it would stop now.

 

[Chuganator]

Little f up on my part... forgot the light wheat DME... how bad do you think i messed up hah. Will it be a weak beer? [cries]

 

[JohnnyK68]

Well just took a reading and a taste test out of the cylinder. It is down to 1.010 and the taste of vanilla is gone. I see now why it needs to be readded at bottling.
It has however cleared alot better then I thought it woould. It still has a good taste, but I imagine the extra vanila and lactose will make it better after being in the bottle a few weeks. I still wont bottle this for a few days, but it probably wont go a full 2 weeks in the secondary.

 

[Cheesefood]

Little f up on my part... forgot the light wheat DME... how bad do you think i messed up hah. Will it be a weak beer? [cries]

Did you only put in LDME? The WDME is half the sugar weight, so without it the beer will definitely be weak. How long ago did you brew? It might not be too late to save it.

 

[jaredriesel]

Forgive my newbie question, but if a recipe calls for DME, can one easily sub LME?

Also, regarding the wheat malt extract, what is considered light? I browsed several online retailers, and i'm having a hard time distinguishing which wheat extracts are light or not. Is it the % of wheat vs. barley that makes that difference?

 

[Chuganator]

I started it on Tuesday, Jan 30.
Theres a foam on the top about an inch thick but its not bubbling much.. lack of sugars im guessing.
I used a 3lb bag of Muntons Wheat. And still have another 3lb bag of Muntons Extra light. Should i boil up 8 cups or so of water and add the light or is it too late?

Its smelling really freakin nice atm hope it can be saved =/

 

[Jester]

Forgive my newbie question, but if a recipe calls for DME, can one easily sub LME?

Also, regarding the wheat malt extract, what is considered light? I browsed several online retailers, and i'm having a hard time distinguishing which wheat extracts are light or not. Is it the % of wheat vs. barley that makes that difference?

I used all LME when I've brewed this recipe... I have nothing to compare it to, but it was good both times...

 

[Cheesefood]

I started it on Tuesday, Jan 30.
Theres a foam on the top about an inch thick but its not bubbling much.. lack of sugars im guessing.
I used a 3lb bag of Muntons Wheat. And still have another 3lb bag of Muntons Extra light. Should i boil up 8 cups or so of water and add the light or is it too late?

Its smelling really freakin nice atm hope it can be saved =/

Boil and cool, then dump it in. You'll be fine.

 

[Chuganator]

awesome much love

 

[MriswitH]

How do you think this would turn out with a dry yeast, say Nottinghams or Muntons Gold?

I would like to brew this tomorrow, but I think I may have missed the window on picking up some German Ale yeast and making a starter.

 

[Timekiller]

Wow!! 30 pages is a lot to read...

I am going to my LBS and im gonna pick up some ingredients...

I have a crazy idea, and im going to make my variation on Cheesefoods origional recipie. We'll see how it goes, if its good ill post my variation.

 

[JnJ]

I get my ingredients on Thursday, looks like I'll be brewing it this weekend.

 

[Pedro-]

if its good ill post my variation

ahh don't be shy. we all fail nine times before something goes right!!!

 

[Timekiller]

ahh don't be shy. we all fail nine times before something goes right!!!

true.... well, when I work out the recipie, Ill put it up.

 

[TUCK]

How do you think this would turn out with a dry yeast, say Nottinghams or Muntons Gold?

I would like to brew this tomorrow, but I think I may have missed the window on picking up some German Ale yeast and making a starter.

I am on my second batch, the first time I used a Brtish Ale Yeast cake (used for brown ale frist go round). To say the least the beer only lasted 6 days in the keg and it was gone. I loved it.

This time I have tweaked the recipe a little and fermenting as we speak using Nottinghams Dry Yeast

I will post the results when available.

 

[Pedro-]

Once the ol tax return comes in it will be going STRAIGHT to the ingredients for this brew

 

[wood173]

I'm thinking about trying your recipe and I'm a little confused on when to add the vanilla. Do you actually mix it in when you prime it for bottling? Or after the boil and the wort is cooled?

 

[McKBrew]

I didn't quite figure it out either, 30 some pages of slightly different ideas. So I added 2oz at the end of the boil, then I figure when I get ready to bottle I'll sample it and if I want more I'll toss it in.